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New COCO MAT 10'0

Created by billboard billboard  > 9 months ago, 27 Apr 2012
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billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

27 Apr 2012 5:50pm
Picked up my new 10.0 NSP coco mat sup this week and WOW !!!

First impressions: holy shlt ! how light is this thing -and it looks insane. It was certainly the centre of attention as we unpacked it in the shop, and had a heap of very curious and jealous onlookers.

Had a couple of paddles on the river during the week with the mutt up front and the board definately felt way different in the water to the standard E2 construction - obviously due to the significant reduction in weight.

Headed to Byron this morning to catch up with 62mac and asea and figured "what the hell, the pass looks like a good place to christen it !" Paddled out from Clarkes and straight away I knew this was gunna be fun. The board didn't feel at all corky, considering how light it is, and it just punched straight through the first wall of whitewater and before I knew it I was on the point and into it.

The board was so quick to paddle due to the beautiful rocker and insane bottom shape and I couldn't believe how easy it paddled into, even the tiniest of waves. Its very very fast on the wave and with the reduced weight is at least twice as easy to turn and throw around than the standard construction - I actually overpowered the first few bottom turns and the board just launched out over the top with me left pretty much where I initiated the bottom turn - DOH ! Didn't take too long though to adjust and then everything was just too easy and I very casuallly got my 100 waves up and ever so discretely left the scene a very happy sup'er indeed.

Overall a really lovely board and a huge improvement over the standard construction - and trust me I am a huge fan of the standard board. I pretty much used my old 10.0 as my river paddler and surfed it only really in places that required a long paddle out or on very fat days - that may change now cos this is definately a light enough and responsive enough board for everyday use, even on a punchy beachy, where I would normally only use my 8.5. I really couldn't fault the board and I am confident that anyone under maybe 85kg would fall in love with this baby. Over 85kg I reckon it would be a bit of a handful cos it's quite low volume for a 10fter.

Oh and finally - thanks for the coffees Mac - you are a champion mate (for a mal rider)
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

27 Apr 2012 6:25pm
Any pic's BB i would really like to see it mate.
maxeaus
maxeaus

NSW

326 posts

27 Apr 2012 6:31pm
Pics or it never happened.
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

27 Apr 2012 6:52pm
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weiry said...

Any pic's BB i would really like to see it mate.


When the rain stops will get a few pics mate. Mac got to see it close up, when he nearly ran me over
weiry
weiry

QLD

5396 posts

27 Apr 2012 7:01pm
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CMC
CMC

CMC

QLD

3954 posts

28 Apr 2012 10:25am
The incredibly interesting and exciting thing about the Coco Mat is that it is about 50% stronger than the standard construction and about 30% lighter.

As you know already, the standard NSP construction is the benchmark for durability. There's not much stronger than an E2 NSP, except Coco Mat....

Coco Mat is ridiculous. There is so much more to come from this new technology.
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

28 Apr 2012 1:36pm
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CMC said...

The incredibly interesting and exciting thing about the Coco Mat is that it is about 50% stronger than the standard construction and about 30% lighter.

As you know already, the standard NSP construction is the benchmark for durability. There's not much stronger than an E2 NSP, except Coco Mat....

Coco Mat is ridiculous. There is so much more to come from this new technology.


Hey cmc - is coco mat going to make carbon obsolete in sups ?
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon

VIC

2098 posts

28 Apr 2012 6:48pm
Anybody paddled/surfed the 10'2 x 32 Coco Mat??
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

28 Apr 2012 7:06pm
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HumanCartoon said...

Anybody paddled/surfed the 10'2 x 32 Coco Mat??


Ive paddled it but not surfed it. My local shop has a demo so I will try and grab it next week and give it a surf and post my thoughts. I've surfed the 11.0 and 10.6 heaps and am frothin' to re-surf them in the coco mat - the weight difference and feel underfoot is simply mind blowing - I think the good ol' nsp's are gunna make a serious comeback with the new construction,
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon

VIC

2098 posts

28 Apr 2012 9:49pm
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billboard said...

HumanCartoon said...

Anybody paddled/surfed the 10'2 x 32 Coco Mat??


Ive paddled it but not surfed it. My local shop has a demo so I will try and grab it next week and give it a surf and post my thoughts. I've surfed the 11.0 and 10.6 heaps and am frothin' to re-surf them in the coco mat - the weight difference and feel underfoot is simply mind blowing - I think the good ol' nsp's are gunna make a serious comeback with the new construction,


Cool, looking forward to the ride report
CMC
CMC

CMC

QLD

3954 posts

29 Apr 2012 11:54am
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billboard said...

CMC said...

The incredibly interesting and exciting thing about the Coco Mat is that it is about 50% stronger than the standard construction and about 30% lighter.

As you know already, the standard NSP construction is the benchmark for durability. There's not much stronger than an E2 NSP, except Coco Mat....

Coco Mat is ridiculous. There is so much more to come from this new technology.


Hey cmc - is coco mat going to make carbon obsolete in sups ?


No, the Coco Mat is the sandwich material, not a cloth like fiberglass or carbon fibre.

The thing is that unlike many other materials used in sandwich construction like PVC, Cork or even bamboo is that very little processing occurs and it is fully sustainable. It looks unreal, stronger than the others above by a long way and nothing has to be chopped down or crazy chemicals used to make it.

It will be interesting to see what combinations of materials when combined with the Coco will do.
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

29 Apr 2012 4:12pm
Isnt the coconut husk porous ? How does that not suck up and require more resin then and add weight ?

So how much mat is there in the board ? - just that superficial layer all over or what ?

For anyone who hasnt seen this stuff in the flesh - it is beautiful - veneer/bamboo/cork look positively dull and boring in comparison.
CMC
CMC

CMC

QLD

3954 posts

29 Apr 2012 5:44pm
OK, one of the reasons why the factory where NSP are made quite simply makes better product than most others starts with the core. Rather than simply cutting blanks from big blocks of loosely fused EPS each blank is pressure moulded individually. This limits wastage and land fill, these blanks are fused completely.

In Coco Mat you take this fused blank and then add a layer of glass, then Coco Mat in a random and discontinuous fashion, then another layer of glass. This is then laminated and with vacuum pressure moulding all excess resin removed.

Yes, coconut fibre absorbs resin. What this does though is makes this incredibly light and strong material much much stronger. Due to the random discontinuous nature of the strands and the distance between the layers of cloth it creates I Beams in every direction. The Coco Mat creates what is the strongest board per weight in the world. It's a big claim but the lab tests prove it.

It is seriously one of the biggest advancements in surfboard composites in a long time.
billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

29 Apr 2012 5:48pm
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CMC said...

OK, one of the reasons why the factory where NSP are made quite simply makes better product than most others starts with the core. Rather than simply cutting blanks from big blocks of loosely fused EPS each blank is pressure moulded individually. This limits wastage and land fill, these blanks are fused completely.

In Coco Mat you take this fused blank and then add a layer of glass, then Coco Mat in a random and discontinuous fashion, then another layer of glass. This is then laminated and with vacuum pressure moulding all excess resin removed.

Yes, coconut fibre absorbs resin. What this does though is makes this incredibly light and strong material much much stronger. Due to the random discontinuous nature of the strands and the distance between the layers of cloth it creates I Beams in every direction. The Coco Mat creates what is the strongest board per weight in the world. It's a big claim but the lab tests prove it.

It is seriously one of the biggest advancements in surfboard composites in a long time.


But even more importantly - IT'S PRETTY !
chrispychru
chrispychru

QLD

7932 posts

29 Apr 2012 8:12pm
mmm pretty new things
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon

VIC

2098 posts

29 Apr 2012 8:35pm
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billboard said...



For anyone who hasnt seen this stuff in the flesh - it is beautiful


I thought the one I saw looked like a mess of ginger pubes in corn syrup but that probably wouldn't put me off buying one.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

VIC

17569 posts

29 Apr 2012 8:43pm
Great construction idea but I'm not sure about pretty.. IMO it's as pretty as a piece of chip board... I like the idea but would rather see it covered up.

DJ
JonathanC
JonathanC

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1024 posts

30 Apr 2012 6:09pm
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CMC said...

OK, one of the reasons why the factory where NSP are made quite simply makes better product than most others starts with the core. Rather than simply cutting blanks from big blocks of loosely fused EPS each blank is pressure moulded individually. This limits wastage and land fill, these blanks are fused completely.




Hey CMC isn't that the way most of the production blanks are produced, thought that was how most of the Cobra produced stuff was done. Any Cobra boards I've seen broken seem to have that fused styrofoam beads look rather than the look of a block thats been shaped.

Great that we are using things like coconut and bamboo in boards - don't think anyone can claim epoxy boards are anywhere near 'green' but I guess it all helps.

towball
towball

4634 posts

5 May 2012 9:55am
Can you tell me whos got the demo board B B keen to have a go while on the GC.
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billboard said...

HumanCartoon said...

Anybody paddled/surfed the 10'2 x 32 Coco Mat??


Ive paddled it but not surfed it. My local shop has a demo so I will try and grab it next week and give it a surf and post my thoughts. I've surfed the 11.0 and 10.6 heaps and am frothin' to re-surf them in the coco mat - the weight difference and feel underfoot is simply mind blowing - I think the good ol' nsp's are gunna make a serious comeback with the new construction,


billboard
billboard

QLD

2819 posts

5 May 2012 2:06pm
TB - surf fx have a demo 10.2 and I have the 10.0 which you are welcome to try if Im around when you hit town.
towball
towball

4634 posts

6 May 2012 1:41pm
Thanks BB may see you down the alley or some were
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billboard said...

TB - surf fx have a demo 10.2 and I have the 10.0 which you are welcome to try if Im around when you hit town.


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