just saying

Cheers ....a mixed bag .

So what's the difference between the Maliko 14 x 28 Carbon and the Maliko 14 x 28 Carbon Elite?

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Husat said..
So what's the difference between the Maliko 14 x 28 Carbon and the Maliko 14 x 28 Carbon Elite?

Naff all, it would seem, according to the website.

I'm gonna have a guess though and say that the elite might be full carbon everywhere. Or maybe even full carbon plus PVC throughout. And more expensive. And a tiny bit lighter and more fragile. And a lot more expensive.

But, really, you can't expect a brochure to tell you anything about the products, can you? As SIC (and Starboard) have shown, brochures are principally about disinformation ;)

Seems the website may have a glitch with the Carbon's Construction (have used the Carbon Elite's image). I have asked to get it fixed ASAP.

The Carbon has less carbon in it, making it considerably cheaper and adds some more durability.

Hopefully the real construction image will be up soon so it's clearer.

Unfortunately these are a late addition to the line and will not be available in Australia til next year.

Ride safe,

JB

What is the actual weight difference between the carbon and the carbon elite, then? The website shows them as the same weight, so I guess it's not just the picture that is misleading?

I hope no-one has already ordered the Carbon on the basis of the specs on the website, if they are actually for the more expensive carbon elite. They could end up disappointed when it arrives.

Here is the Construction description from Naish. The animated graphic is coming soon.

Carbon Construction (2017 Maliko Carbon 14’0” X28)
CNC Cut EPS Core = Absolute precision shaping
Full PVC Sandwich Glass Matrix Deck & Rail = Lightweight, longitudinal stiffness + impact strength
Carbon Center Stringer Reinforcement = Added Stiffness
Glass Matrix + Wood Sandwich Bottom = Durable + Lightweight

Enjoy :)

JB

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Windgenuity said...
Here is the Construction description from Naish. The animated graphic is coming soon.

Carbon Construction (2017 Maliko Carbon 14’0” X28)
CNC Cut EPS Core = Absolute precision shaping
Full PVC Sandwich Glass Matrix Deck & Rail = Lightweight, longitudinal stiffness + impact strength
Carbon Center Stringer Reinforcement = Added Stiffness
Glass Matrix + Wood Sandwich Bottom = Durable + Lightweight

Enjoy :)

JB

Great info, thanks. So the "Carbon" model is actually the "not much carbon" one, like with Starboard's hybrid carbon?

What is the weight of these boards? With PVC and wood, and not much carbon, presumably they aren't particularly light?

Should be fairly durable though, hopefully. And if the price is not too high it might be a good compromise between the painfully heavy GS type (Glide) constructions and the painfully expensive LE ones of the past.

Has DJ stuck his Maliko on a pair of bathroom scales yet?

The Carbon is very much like our previous GX construction. Similar to other brands in this their base Carbon construction. Important to note though when comparing it to other brands such at Starboard, our Carbon is an actual sandwich with PVC deck and rail sandwich and Wood sandwich on the bottom, the Starboard Carbon and Hybrid is not to my understanding.

The weights, like in previous GX vs LE constructions will be in the 1 - 1.5kg areas on a 28" wide I would imagine.

JB

The Quest series look excellent. But the weight .....
16kg for the 12 footer

The quest line has awesome graphics. The construction technique that the factory use is amazing, and the possibilities are huge for graphics. The construction is somewhat similar to our GS constructions (maybe a little better as far as accuracy goes). Extremely strong and well priced at the cost of a little weight. A great board and very durable.

JB

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The Carbon is very much like our previous GX construction. Similar to other brands in this their base Carbon construction. Important to note though when comparing it to other brands such at Starboard, our Carbon is an actual sandwich with PVC deck and rail sandwich and Wood sandwich on the bottom, the Starboard Carbon and Hybrid is not to my understanding.

The weights, like in previous GX vs LE constructions will be in the 1 - 1.5kg areas on a 28" wide I would imagine.
JB

Ok, that's helpful, thanks. It's good that the board has a sandwich construction all round. Clearly Naish saved money with the wood bottom, but that's better than no sandwich for sure.

Presumably the actual amount of carbon is only something like 5% of the actual materials. So, as with Starboard, calling it a "carbon" board is more about marketing than anything else?

But personally, I'm over the "carbon" thing. I'd far rather read "PVC sandwich" than "carbon", as long as the weight isn't totally stupid. The signature Jimmy Lewis construction M14 that I owned, for instance, was amazingly durable, perfectly acceptable weight, stiff, and was a decent price. Yet there was not a jot of carbon in sight. It was full PVC sandwich instead. So, as far as I'm concerned, if you want a strong board at a sensible price then keep the carbon, and give me more of the PVC instead. It looks like these Naishes are a step in that direction, which is good. Let's hope they are slightly less flexy than the GXs used to be. And comfortably under 30lbs for the 14x26.

It's sounding pretty good to me.

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Gboots said...
The Quest series look excellent. But the weight .....
16kg for the 12 footer

35lbs for a 12?
Ok, that's what I expected. Seriously heavy. Light, cheap, durable: Pick two.

no link for us lazy people?

What's up with the picture of the Nalu 10' LE? Doesn't look like a quad option fin setup to me?

Looks like they used the 10'6" Nalu Graphic here. The 2017 Nalu Carbon Pro has the five fin option as per description -

"The Nalu 10’0” Carbon Pro is a high-performance, longboard-style SUP. Designed for riders seeking optimal responsiveness, direct feel and enhanced nose-riding ability, the refined foiling allows for maximum drive with minimal effort. The narrow outline—combined with the option to ride as a thruster or quad—grants the freedom and flexibility to enjoy this design in waves knee-high to double overhead."

NAlu 10' Carbon Pro - www.naishsurfing.com/product/nalu-1010-carbon-pro/

Enjoy,

JB