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Created by SupersizeP2L SupersizeP2L  > 9 months ago, 30 May 2016
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SupersizeP2L
SupersizeP2L

44 posts

30 May 2016 10:20am
New Naish Javelin ?



Area10
Area10

1508 posts

30 May 2016 4:13pm
Good to see a brand further developing the reverse bow concept. It has a lot to recommend it in terms of reducing pitching upwind. But I guess that the trade-off is the high freeboard we see here between paddler and the nose. I'm less sure how this is going to go downwind, but I guess if there's enough volume up front to counteract the submarining then maybe it will be OK. Nice looking graphics. It's interesting that the brands still aren't converging on an agreed design solution, but instead almost seem at times to be doing everything they can to be different from each other. But maybe that allows us customers to have more choice about our design trade-offs.
Hawaiiheke
Hawaiiheke

319 posts

30 May 2016 6:15pm
Yikes! That really is taking the Naish eagle beak to the next level. Looks evil shape-wise!
DavidJohn
DavidJohn

VIC

17569 posts

30 May 2016 9:10pm
Looks awesome.. Love the shape..

I'm thinking that's a pure flat water race board.. and the Maliko shape Jav will be the DW board..

I've heard there's been a big change in construction..

I've also heard there's now a new 28" wide 14' Maliko Jav..

Anyone know for sure?
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

30 May 2016 10:44pm
Also interesting to note that Caspar uses such a large blade: presumably that's a 100+ QB. Maybe just for training, or maybe the new Jav is so slippery that you can do up a size in blade ;)
Wetspot
Wetspot

ACT

43 posts

31 May 2016 2:14pm
not looking all that wide either, guessing that's all the big three with 21" boards.
SupersizeP2L
SupersizeP2L

44 posts

31 May 2016 3:25pm
Just hope they rounded the underneath nose bottom

SUPerD
SUPerD

182 posts

31 May 2016 5:25pm
I'm thinking its at least 24" wide, look at Caspers feet as a reference..the perspective and the large volume nose combine to add to the illusion of narrowness. Though even if it's 24", it would be too narrow for me.
BrisKites
BrisKites

QLD

1292 posts

31 May 2016 10:15pm
Prototype only is my guess as the nose looks a little different on the productions. All will be revealed soon enough.
TJR
TJR

TJR

155 posts

1 Jun 2016 12:16am
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Area10 said..
Also interesting to note that Caspar uses such a large blade: presumably that's a 100+ QB. Maybe just for training, or maybe the new Jav is so slippery that you can do up a size in blade ;)


101 V drive
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

1 Jun 2016 12:31am
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TJR said..

Area10 said..
Also interesting to note that Caspar uses such a large blade: presumably that's a 100+ QB. Maybe just for training, or maybe the new Jav is so slippery that you can do up a size in blade ;)



101 V drive


Yeah I've got that very same paddle. And the 91. I have no idea why he wouldn't use the tapered oval shaft (I love it), but maybe if he likes a shorter shaft, he wants something stiffer, since the shorter you go with the tapered shaft the softer it gets. Or maybe he wants a bigger handle. I find I'm faster with the 91 mainly because you have to be very disciplined with getting your paddle out if you are using a big blade, and I'm not. But I do like the 101 for training....and I'm not Caspar.
SupersizeP2L
SupersizeP2L

44 posts

1 Jun 2016 5:10am



rghdc
rghdc

53 posts

1 Jun 2016 5:56am
Looks like they moved away from the "brushed carbon" look. A real paint job for a change.

My wife keeps telling me my brushed carbon board needs to be painted. That the finish makes it look "home made". Naish seems to have come to the same conclusion as my wife ??
Foam
Foam

WA

768 posts

1 Jun 2016 6:11pm
At least it has a little red in it
colas
colas

5370 posts

2 Jun 2016 3:04pm
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rghdc said..
Looks like they moved away from the "brushed carbon" look. A real paint job for a change.


Yes, but a real paint job is noticeably heavier... I'd rather have 500g of stratification rather than 500g of paint on a board...
Tardy
Tardy

5292 posts

2 Jun 2016 5:14pm
I wonder how slippery it will be with the astro deck only in the stance area ? I alway walk down the back to do tight turns on my Javelin .
i like the recessed deck .
is it better? we will just have to wait and see.


Area10
Area10

1508 posts

2 Jun 2016 5:38pm
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colas said...
rghdc said..
Looks like they moved away from the "brushed carbon" look. A real paint job for a change.


Yes, but a real paint job is noticeably heavier... I'd rather have 500g of stratification rather than 500g of paint on a board...

Well I'd rather have the paint, even if it is heavier. I don't want to spend a small fortune on something that looks like I just found it in a dumpster. Weight has some advantages too. I don't think that the brushed look is so bad in a small surf SUP, but on a big board it is grim IMO. Some of the matt finishes look awful and cheap too (step forward, Fanatic).
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

2 Jun 2016 5:48pm
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Tardy said...
I wonder how slippery it will be with the astro deck only in the stance area ? I alway walk down the back to do tight turns on my Javelin .
i like the recessed deck .
is it better? we will just have to wait and see.

Good point. Maybe it is intended as flat water only? IMO all ocean boards should have a tail
pad with kick bar like on a surf board. It makes surfing and buoy turns soooo much easier on a big board. I added one on my Bark Vapor and it made a huge difference. But it really p@@sed me off that I had to.
HumanCartoon
HumanCartoon

VIC

2098 posts

2 Jun 2016 7:55pm
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Area10 said..
Also interesting to note that Caspar uses such a large blade: presumably that's a 100+ QB. Maybe just for training, or maybe the new Jav is so slippery that you can do up a size in blade ;)


Faster the board...the bigger the blade
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

2 Jun 2016 6:45pm
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Wetspot said...
not looking all that wide either, guessing that's all the big three with 21" boards.

I hope there will be some wider version too. A jump from eg. 21 or 24" wide (Jav) to 29" wide (narrowest Glide) is too big a gap in the range IMO. But maybe if there's a wider Jav Maliko then they will expect that to fill the gap for even flat water racers?
Carvers
Carvers

137 posts

3 Jun 2016 1:26am
Seems they are already spotted in Europe. Saw a FB topic from a Naish rider overhere.

edit: I informed, just in prototype phase, nothing definate.
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