Using my Hokua 9'10 in thruster set up have snapped off three FCS M7 Glass Flex fins at about one every 3 weeks.
Guess I need gruntier quality fins.....thinking about moving to quad set up perhaps.
Been stabbing away at google search but thought would "ask the experts" (that's you folks!)

Try the Gerry Lopez fins. I'm using the quad set with a nubster fin & love it!

ok thanks for the advice

Leggy snapping them?

I love the Lopez quad fins in my 8'10 Lopez board but they're expensive fins if you keep on snapping them.

Haven't snapped one yet!

I haven't snapped one either but Gizzie's got somthing unusual going on to be snapping fins so regular. It may be better to find out why they're snapping before shelling out big dollars for a set of GL's....as good as they are.

Giz have a look at the shapers S9 or the jackson close model, great fins.

i went through a phase where i kept snapping the fins out on one side. Spoke to a local Dis. and he said its likely my leggy was getting snagged when wiping out thus snapping em. they were plastics. since gone to a 6foot leggy and have no probs.

Apart from towball saying "run it as a quad" one of the main proponents of running a quad setup (he's a kneeboarder what would he know? lol) says if you doing the quad thing you have two fins taking the turning stresses so there is less stress on each individual fin.
The 9'10 side fins sre placed quite aggressively forward & near the side of the board

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RJK said...
i went through a phase where i kept snapping the fins out on one side. Spoke to a local Dis. and he said its likely my leggy was getting snagged when wiping out thus snapping em. they were plastics. since gone to a 6foot leggy and have no probs.

Heard one of them snap quite loudly when doing a bottom turn in about 1 foot surf (well maybe 1 to 2 foot)

If it's a case of them snapping under load, you would think a bigger fin would load up more (more surface area for the water to push against) and have more potential to snap. So the quad theory might work but I wouldn't use a bigger fin than your already using in the front. Maybe same size front and back may work or the other option is just use smaller side fins with same centre your using now.

I've seen a few cases of the flex fins snapping on SUPs. I ride the same board & I'm guessing that they aren't designed for use on a bigger, heavier board like an SUP & therefore snap while under that heavier load. That's why using a carbon fin specifically designed for SUP makes sense to me. My 2 cent.

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GizzieNZ said...
Are the Lopez quads carbon?
This looks like quite a good deal on ebay in the USA....haven't worked out the exhange rate/shipping costs yet though
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FCS-GL-1-GERRY-LOPEZ-QUAD-SURFBOARD-4-FIN-SUP-SET-STAND-UP-PADDLE-KEEL-/230926184672?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c445f0e0

Pretty sure they're a carbon core?? Don't quote me though. Definitely a good deal on ebay. I bought the Tri Quad set. 2 Thumbs up!!

hey -- gizzie, perhaps you could clear this up
when I started surfing, if you dropped down a wave and were standing straight up and it was over your head -- it was 6 foot ( I AM 5'10")
I usuallly surf waves that are waist to head high -- 3 to 6 foot - my size rating,
I HAVE BEEN RUBBISHED -- 1 to maybe 3 foot is what others rate this. How high ( up to your body length) do you rate 1 to 2 foot waves?
Steve ps what about Garrets wave 100 ft?

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stehar said...
hey -- gizzie, perhaps you could clear this up
when I started surfing, if you dropped down a wave and were standing straight up and it was over your head -- it was 6 foot ( I AM 5'10")
I usuallly surf waves that are waist to head high -- 3 to 6 foot - my size rating,
I HAVE BEEN RUBBISHED -- 1 to maybe 3 foot is what others rate this. How high ( up to your body length) do you rate 1 to 2 foot waves?
Steve ps what about Garrets wave 100 ft?

I read that to put a size to Garrets wave they judged him to be 6' and counted body lengths up the face of the wave.I don't see why 2' would be any diferent.As for the snaped fins FCS fins are designed to break off rather than rip the plugs out.You say that the fins are up a long way and close to the rail maybe they are getting more sidewards strain than they can handle.Do FCS have a customer advice/complaint site maybe they could advise you.

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GizzieNZ said...

Using my Hokua 9'10 in thruster set up have snapped off three FCS M7 Glass Flex fins at about one every 3 weeks.
Guess I need gruntier quality fins.....thinking about moving to quad set up perhaps.
Been stabbing away at google search but thought would "ask the experts" (that's you folks!)

If you listened to what every one told and rode the bloody thing as a quad you wouldn't have this problem

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towball said...

GizzieNZ said...

Using my Hokua 9'10 in thruster set up have snapped off three FCS M7 Glass Flex fins at about one every 3 weeks.
Guess I need gruntier quality fins.....thinking about moving to quad set up perhaps.
Been stabbing away at google search but thought would "ask the experts" (that's you folks!)

If you listened to what every one told and rode the bloody thing as a quad you wouldn't have this problem

Hey Gizz,

Have you tried it as a quad??

Haha

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stehar said...
hey -- gizzie, perhaps you could clear this up
when I started surfing, if you dropped down a wave and were standing straight up and it was over your head -- it was 6 foot ( I AM 5'10")
I usuallly surf waves that are waist to head high -- 3 to 6 foot - my size rating,
I HAVE BEEN RUBBISHED -- 1 to maybe 3 foot is what others rate this. How high ( up to your body length) do you rate 1 to 2 foot waves?
Steve ps what about Garrets wave 100 ft?

Back in the olden days we said it was 6 foot if .....like you said....the wave was 6 foot high. These days people lean more towards the Hawaii style wave evaluation where a 2 to 3 foot ocean swell might mean 6 to 8 foot faces once the swell hits the shoreline & peaks up

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stehar said...
hey -- gizzie, perhaps you could clear this up
when I started surfing, if you dropped down a wave and were standing straight up and it was over your head -- it was 6 foot ( I AM 5'10")
I usuallly surf waves that are waist to head high -- 3 to 6 foot - my size rating,
I HAVE BEEN RUBBISHED -- 1 to maybe 3 foot is what others rate this. How high ( up to your body length) do you rate 1 to 2 foot waves?
Steve ps what about Garrets wave 100 ft?

Hey Stehar
You are right. You do get bagged if you say the surf is six foot if it is 6 x 12 inches. For some reason lost in time (i am sure wise heads will set me straight though) , the "surfer's foot" isn't the same thing as the old imperial measurement of a foot (12").
If the local reports here say it's 3ft on the beaches, it's well and truly overhead. There used to be some talk about it being the measurement of the back of the wave, which seems dumb and that may just be BS. But if you watch the comps - like the recent Pipe Masters, what they were calling 8 foot was easily double overhead from trough to the peak of the breaking wave. It's all a bit macho for me. Why not call it what it is?
Funny thing is that it changes when they start to try to measure the really big stuff - like that Portugal bomb - they seem to revert to the old formal measurement. And they measure every inch. That massive wave may well be 100ft, but it's only about 4 times the height of a 10ft or 12ft set in hawaiian terms.
Bring on the red thumbs and the sh!tstorm.

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Zeusman said...

towball said...

GizzieNZ said...

Using my Hokua 9'10 in thruster set up have snapped off three FCS M7 Glass Flex fins at about one every 3 weeks.
Guess I need gruntier quality fins.....thinking about moving to quad set up perhaps.
Been stabbing away at google search but thought would "ask the experts" (that's you folks!)

If you listened to what every one told and rode the bloody thing as a quad you wouldn't have this problem

Hey Gizz,

Have you tried it as a quad??

Haha

Maybe if towball lent me his plastic glass flex fins I would but not yet....don't think towball has ever caught a wave on the 9'10 so he is only a bit of a lazy boy armchair expert really

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GizzieNZ said...

Zeusman said...

towball said...

GizzieNZ said...

Using my Hokua 9'10 in thruster set up have snapped off three FCS M7 Glass Flex fins at about one every 3 weeks.
Guess I need gruntier quality fins.....thinking about moving to quad set up perhaps.
Been stabbing away at google search but thought would "ask the experts" (that's you folks!)

If you listened to what every one told and rode the bloody thing as a quad you wouldn't have this problem

Hey Gizz,

Have you tried it as a quad??

Haha

Maybe if towball lent me his plastic glass flex fins I would but not yet....don't think towball has ever caught a wave on the 9'10 so he is only a bit of a lazy boy armchair expert really

The 9'10 is an old mans board real men ride the 9'5


O look there's a new one

Old mans board??? & how old are you on your 9'5" mister Ball??

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Zeusman said...
Old mans board??? & how old are you on your 9'5" mister Ball??

your not the fish I'm after

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towball said...

Zeusman said...
Old mans board??? & how old are you on your 9'5" mister Ball??

your not the fish I'm after

Haha

Did towball say a new one?

^^^^^ Yes come and get my quads give them a try

I just remmbered I snaped one back in October with the quad set up

Regardless of the "mine's longer/mine's shorter" discussion you are definitely not fitting your board out with good quality fins towball
........"I put $45 fins on my $2500 sup".....what's that all about ?

Be careful: if you use too big and solid things, if something is gonna break, I am not sure I want the box to be ripped out the board :-)

Seriously, I would advise 2 kind of fins.
- carbon base fins (the scarfini are really nice, fast fins. Their bamboo sets are awesome). You get the tab resistance of carbon, but the tip of the fin still flexes a bit to absorb the load http://www.scarfini.com/product3933.html?id=B6923A98-0017-16F8-92F5D31E0B0768FE
- C-Drive fins (my favorites). Tough as nails, but the main area is close to the board, so you do not have too much leverage on the box or on your feet (the fins have tremendous drive and grip without adding latency to rail-to rail like fins with area in the tip) www.cdrivefins.com/

Avoid the Gerry Lopez fins, they feel really slow, I don't know why (too much tip area?)

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colas said...


Avoid the Gerry Lopez fins, they feel really slow, I don't know why (too much tip area?)

Hey Colas,
I think it depends what board they're in. I have them in a Gerry Lopez board and they're great in all conditions. However I recently tried them in my Naish 7'6 and didn't like them at all. The board felt like it was on rails, really stiff and hard to turn.