Hey Supdog, I would think the Whopper would be a bit too high in volume if you are coming off a 169l board, but they are nice and stable they reckon. But the carbon factor would make it pretty pricey. There are lots of good words about the new (2014) Naish manas -- see David Johns posts for starters. I also like the look of the new Fanatics. I reckon you might like to think about the mid-9'ft range and a decent width (around 30 inches) while you are learning. But that's just my opinion. Some of the local retailers will have demo boards for you to try out and they will give you good advice too. Happy hunting. Dave