What the actual difference between the Pro wave 9'6" and the All wave 9'5" when riding a wave?

I guessing stability and volume being the main points but the outline of the new All wave is closer to the Pro wave than last years model. I was thinking of the HRS version which I guess are roughly the same weight.

I've been riding an All Wave for a year and feel like a change and was thinking a Pro Wave 9'6" would be a good choice. The Pro Wave would offer more speed and turning ability but still have enough width and length to be fun in average conditions when you need a bit of size to get going. I'm 95kgs and still learning. Any advice would be appreciated.

so no one has ridden an Allwave and then progressed to a Prowave? I don't want to go shorter on the ProWave as it might be too tricky.

Fair enough. I'm still just thinking of getting a 2014 9'6" Prowave as it has the new handle, graphics and costs the same as an all wave.

No, I did it the other way around but I am much heavier than you. The 9'2 2013 Pro wave in cross chop was difficult to stand on (Surfers stance most of the time because of longitudinal stability). The 9'2" Allwave was not. I'm lazy and not good enough for the pro Wave to make a major difference to my surfing. As STC says and I have now discovered the older shape Allwave is a really good nose rider and I have had 5 toes over a couple of times now!! I don't think I could do that on a Pro wave. I know people that swear by Pro waves though because they surf like a much shorter board. Half the fun is demoing and trying to get the fit right - as soon as you do you start looking again.!!! Enjoy the process.

cheers :-)

There are lots of options agreed but I think the 9'6" would be a bit easier than the 9'2" 2013. the extra few inches would help with the paddle out bit and once on wave then its all good :-)

I'm sort of wanting a board that I can turn up at beach and just go out even if the waves are are not so good. I also think a new 2014 Allwave would be just as good (quite a bit different to 2012 Allwave) with the pinched on nose and thinner rails.

I've had couple of Allwaves Including the 9'6 about year ago. The 9'6 was really hard work as Its' got a lot of volume which you would think would make it easier which would be fine on a flat water board but this one is shaped for surfing and while lots of rocker is good on the wave it makes it harder for paddling.
The 8'10 was a sensational board which I really loved. Do anything on it. However I recently bought the 9'6 Prowave and it's certainly a step up from my previous boards. It really comes down to your skill level. The Prowave would suit an intermediate to very good surfer so you would have to decide where your at. If you can, borrow one. 9'1 Allwave or 9'6 Prowave carbon would be the go I think.

good advice rockmagnet. I guess i'm at intermediate level (surfing for 1-2 years) but don't want to struggle with the paddling out bit any more than I have too. I find the all wave hard work when you have to ditch before head height waves breaking on you and dragging the board etc. The lower volume of the Prowave should make this better and also the 9'6" should still be ok to paddle. I guess the raised bow doesn't add to the stability when paddling but I see that the new Allwave almost looks the same although heaps more volume.

I can't justify a carbon as they are lots of $$$$ and was sort of hoping a HRS would be ok and not too much heavier.

Hi rockmagnet'
You had the 8'10 Allwave?
I know its 2 different boards, but how would you compare the 8'10 to the 9'6 Prowave?

Paddling, stability, float and of course... surfing.

I recently got an 8'11 Hobie RAW, and I am not surfing my 8'10 Allwave any longer. I will probably sell it and get something different as a second board, since you have made the move to the Prowave, you should have an interesting view of the two boards. My thought was a performance board for the more challenging winter conditions.

It was fairly easy transition as the boards have good volume. The only real difference I had to adjust to was not to stand too far forward on the Prowave especially on a steep wave as it would nosedive on takeoff. My Allwave had a good set of Shapers fins which loosened the board a lot.The Prowave responds a lot quicker and if I had the ability or was on the right wave I feel I could snap of the lip whereas the Allwave would be a bit more work to bring around. The Prowave is definitely a performance board and thats where you expectations should be.

All good advice.

What size fins do you use. When you purchase a prowave do u only get thruster fins?

If so what would you buy for a quad setup?

Thanks for the info... I currently use my 8'10 Allwave for flat-water paddling, since it's all I have for that. I frequently paddle 2-3 hours a day if not surfing. I know none of these are what others would consider decent flat-water boards, but I'd rather have 2 surf SUP's than a dedicated flat-water board.
My question: how do you like the Prowave on flat-water paddles. I saw your other post, where you said you had done some flat-water on it.

I have paddled my RAW (123 ltr) on 2 hour trips, so I don't require much.... just better than the RAW

Goes all right especially since I got the 7.25 carbon Innegra paddle. Gets up a fairly decent speed for a board thats shaped for surfing and is easy to paddle. It probably helps that the board is very light being the carbon version.