Guys getting my first SUP, surfed for years. One above looks promising. I have heard they a quite stable and good in the surf, with plenty of volume. 160 litre I think. Thing is I have heard that they can be 'hard' to paddle in that 3 strokes and you turn quickly, so it is more of a stand in the lineup couple of strokes and in. Is this true? Is this board at least functional on the flat or on a smooth wave day to paddle into waves?

Oh yeh I weigh 76kg.

I have a 9 foot Hero and yes they are harder to catch a wave. I would go the 10 foot plus if you want wave and a little flat water action.' But saying that once on the wave it is nearly as loose as my 6'3 shortboard , not really but is is loose like a goose.

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Rich

Hi Eppo, to start with the 9'2" Allwave is little on the large side for someone of your weight. I'd be looking more around the 8'10".

As a first wave board there is no need to look further than an Allwave, they're an excellent board for beginner to advanced in small to medium waves.

Do they yaw when you paddle? Yes they do, but this can be negated with a modified paddle stroke. Having said that, a long distance paddle won't be as much fun as on a 10' board, they just don't have the easy glide than an all rounder has, but neither it should because that would compromise its loose easy handling on a wave.

You need to be very clear in what you want your SUP for before you look to buying anything.

DM

Hey Eppo I bought the coreban ezy 10, its a bit bigger but coming from a surfing back ground I was catching waves on it after a few sessions. I think if you go slightly bigger it will speed up the learning process, same as with an sb but yes you do sacrifice a bit of wave preformence. I'm finding now after a few months I'm wanting to down size to something that is a bit looser on the waves. I'm going to keep my ezy 10 as my girl friend wants to get into the sport . Believe it or not all my mates that were giving me crap for buying a sup come to the beach see how much fun I'm having, ask to have a go and then want one. So will be good to have a spare board when my mates make the trip to come visit.

Eppo u wont be able do an a.r.s on one :) m8 i had my first go on mine yesterday with no experience and 100kg.... perfect size for me. might b too big for u.... 8'10 maybe better. have z spin on mine sarvi.

I use my 9'10 Allwave as my only flat-water board. I weigh 110 kg.
I paddle an average of 6 miles when ever I use it... no problems.
It's not going to win any races, but it is quite fine on long cruises.

I use my 9'6 Allwave for flat-water if I am letting someone use my 9'10
My 9'6 is my go to surf SUP in all conditions.

I'm also around 100kg and ride a 9'6" Allwave. I've also surfed all my life but have just gotten into SUP. Yes these boards are slow on flat water paddles but you get you there eventually.

I demo'd the 9'2" in surf and it was surprisingly stable and floated me really well so at 79kg you will be able to go even shorter, the 8'10" would be ideal.

Very happy with mine so far, a longer race style board would be great for flatwater paddles but most of my time is spent in the waves and short flatwater paddles so the Allwave is super stable and perfect for what I want. Good luck with it

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DaveyG said...
I'm also around 100kg and ride a 9'6" Allwave. I've also surfed all my life but have just gotten into SUP. Yes these boards are slow on flat water paddles but you get you there eventually.

I demo'd the 9'2" in surf and it was surprisingly stable and floated me really well so at 79kg you will be able to go even shorter, the 8'10" would be ideal.

Very happy with mine so far, a longer race style board would be great for flatwater paddles but most of my time is spent in the waves and short flatwater paddles so the Allwave is super stable and perfect for what I want. Good luck with it

You can go shorter at 76 kg,im 88kg and riding an 8-10. I would have liked to demo the 8-6 as it is 130 litres,but i still like the 8-10 i'm currently fooling around with different fins and positioning. All said they are very stable,i think you need to come to same realization that you need different boards for surfing and general paddling around.Demo an 8-6 if you can.Have fun.

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eppo said...

Guys getting my first SUP, surfed for years. One above looks promising. I have heard they a quite stable and good in the surf, with plenty of volume. 160 litre I think. Thing is I have heard that they can be 'hard' to paddle in that 3 strokes and you turn quickly, so it is more of a stand in the lineup couple of strokes and in. Is this true? Is this board at least functional on the flat or on a smooth wave day to paddle into waves?

Oh yeh I weigh 76kg.

I wouldn't worry about the tracking (paddling straight) too much. If you find it a little tricky at first move your centre fin right to the back and you'll go straighter. Turning more easily means you can spin around quicker to catch waves and once on the wave is heaps better if your board is looser. I'm the same weight as you and ride an 8'5 starboard which I think is about right for my weight..... I reckon you'll find that board has too much volume for you but will be good to learn on. Buy a quality name second hand one and in a year you'll be ready to trade up to something more as a long term keeper.

i agree that the 9.2 is too much volume for your weight BUT you would have rocks in you head going much smaller as the 8.10 is going to be fat and corky and paddle even slower and yaw even more than the 9.2. You are looking at about the right length, you just need to drop your volume. I you are intent on a fanatic then have a look at a Prowave (I think there is a 9.3 at about 135ish litres) There is also a new JP 9.2 x 30 (about 135ltrs) and possibly a starboard 9 x 30 (about 135 litres also)

Keep your length up to maintain a bit of paddling speed and tracking and the ability to get into waves a bit easier - but, as I say, drop your litreage to the mid 130s.

I weigh 83kg and have a 8'10. Can definitely recommend it if you want it for surfing. If you want to paddle medium - long distance then I suggest you look for a different board.

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eppo said...

Guys getting my first SUP, surfed for years. One above looks promising. I have heard they a quite stable and good in the surf, with plenty of volume. 160 litre I think. Thing is I have heard that they can be 'hard' to paddle in that 3 strokes and you turn quickly, so it is more of a stand in the lineup couple of strokes and in. Is this true? Is this board at least functional on the flat or on a smooth wave day to paddle into waves?

Oh yeh I weigh 76kg.

I'm 70kg and very new to the sport. I still windsurf and used to surf in solid waves.
I'm lucky to have got to try a few starboards out on the flat and in surf before I got to buy one. I haven't tried other brands so can't compare so will only comment on the ones I tried

We bought a starboard element a couple of weeks ago for my wife which I can also use on very small days great board easy to catch wave but felt like a long board on the waves so not my thing when the waves pick up.

For my board it was a toss up between the 2012 sb pro 9'1 and the 2013 sb pro 9'O.

The 2013 felt more stable for me as the volume was less(not so tippy as it sat lower in the water) and the new flat deck felt awesome under foot I think it's around 138lts I could be wrong

My paddling skills will improve with time as will my balance and I know after catching a few small wave this board will rip in bigger waves, the waves were only waist to chest and I felt like I was on a surf board.
I know I also have enough volume to make it comfortable to paddle with my wife on the river

At this stage I feel like its the perfect board for me to progress on very quickly and then have a awesome board once my skills are up

I pick up my new 2013 starboard 9'0 pro today

Good luck with choosing the right board there's a lot out there

Oops its 118 lts not 138lt