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supthecreek said..
I had to take some time to consider this.... 3 isn't enough for me, but I'll play
I am 74 and 103 kg

1 - GenRation 8'8 SP25.
it simply rips.... no thinking, no effort.
I feel like a kid again on this board.

2 - 9'5 SP25.
My big board that makes every session easy and I can surf it for hours
Fast, snappy and stupid stable....
(These two edged out the 9'6 Kanga, both being faster and snappier and still comfort boards)
3 - 9'4 Flow V2.
This board wasn't on my list a few weeks ago.
It was ok, but it had some issues that made me always choose the 9'5 SP25.
Enter Quobba Fins
With the Quobba fins, this board is so close to taking second spot that I really had to watch hours of video to compare it with the 9'5 SP25.
Still not sure which one will win.... I will have to have one session with both of them.


these can't be left home...
8'10 Placid for when it is a little too wonky for the 8'8 SP25 and I still want something short
12' Pointbreak for all flat-water or long treks to surf remote points

Hi Rick, I was wondering how long it would take you to pick the eyes out of your collection I rewatched you 9'6 Kanga videos this morning and you had me convinced it could be a great wonky day board for me too.

Well tomorrow I will check out the SP25 videos, or maybe the FLOW ones
Have a great Sunday.

Steve

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margeaux said..
Kalama 10/28 everyday
kalama 9'2/30 for rougher conditions
kalama 9/28 if I lose 5kg
totally covered for all conditions

I'm with you on the Kalama lovefest. The 9'2 is absolute tops and a quiver killer. And if I could lose 5kg and magically have better balance I'd be all about that 9x28. Now I'm just waiting for Dave to make some sort of 8' @ 110-120L shortboard...

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tannaman said..
Morning Rick. Great video. Too early here in South Africa for beer n chips but it went well with coffee.
A while back you gave me some advice about a 8.5 Speeed which I bought and absolutely love.
A Casey Flow. 8.4 has become available in Cape Town and I'd love your opinion on that to compliment the Speeed.
70 kg, 65 yrs old and mainly ride head high to bigger pretty fast hollow beach break.
The advice I seek is person specific but others may find your input interesting.
cheers
Tanna.
ps. I can't find the pm you sent me years ago re my Speeed questions

Hi Tanna
My 9'4 is 158 liter and I am 104 kg, so Guild Factor of 1.5
8'4 at 112 liters for you at 70 kg = G/F of 1.59 so it should surf similar for you as mine is for my size.

I got some amazing backside waves today on my 9'4 and it was awesome!
I put a rain hood on SoloShot and paused the recording, so no video.... I'm so bummed. Best session I have had on that board!
It was steep, fast and hard breaking and my biggish Flow was on fire! Solid on turns, fast and very responsive.

Since I put a set of Quobba fins on my 9'4 Flow, it has become my goto board.
Before that it was elusive and I struggled to get the performance that suited me.... now I am fully in sync with it!

Since it is the same volume and length of your Speeed, you should be right at home on it.
Please let me know how it goes, if you decide to get it!

Peace
Rick

NE UK coast. 6'2, 88KG

8'2 JP Surf Wide - small, weak mush, lazy day (travel board - takes up less space in the van!)
8'9 Kanga - nearly everything we get
9'2 Steeze - all of the above and flat pootling around

Can use all of them for the majority of the conditions I get but the Kanga is the board I now seem to default to. It's not the 'easiest' of the three, but it's the most fun/rewarding.

Wife boards
8'6 Quattro Glide
8'7 Starboard Wedge (Good allrounder)

Thanks Rick.

The holy grail of sup surfing: stability + comfort + performance. A long search but I am pretty content with my 3 board quiver.

I usually choose my board for the day based on stability for the conditions not the best board for the conditions. I find having a shorter wider board gives me more stability than having longer and narrower. Particularly, they offer both side to side and front and back stability. Because of this two of my boards are Simmons/Tomo shapes. Added bonuses to these boards are the instant lift on take-off and having my back foot constantly on the tail. This allows me to have less nose rocker (more stability) as I can always just weight my back foot to get the nose up. Constantly surfing off the tail has been a game-changer for me.

Informationally I am 6'2 107kg

8'10 L41 ST: My go-to board for most conditions. In my opinion, as good a board as there is. Does it all and for 8'10 this big guy is stable. Can get a bit skatey overhead and is not the most stable in chop or in full winter gear.

8'11 Sunova Shroom: This board does not get enough love. Super fun, super stable and turns way better than you think. When it is choppy or I am in full winter gear the L41 goes on the shelf and the Shroom comes out. This board has a wider nose and does not like anything steep but I have surfed it in everything.

9'5 Sunova GenRation SP25: This is the perfect compliment to my Simmons boards. It is 16 liters more than the other two boards but the nose is so thin and pointy it actually surfs shorter and lighter than its size. A more traditional shape, with a heavy nose flip, I surf this in larger waves when the ST is too fast and skatey (the SP25 tends to run out in front with speed too but I can control it better and I prefer to cut back into the pocket) or in steep waves in full gear that the Shroom can't handle.

"The best surfer is the one having the most fun." Being unstable is not fun. These boards have plenty of performance but have outstanding stabilty.

Yes my ECS Slab 75 got on list ahead of Shroom 73. But if I didn't have Slab the Shroom would replace it at 1 .Those door shaped boards are a lot of fun and reliablein the conditions I go in

I still carnt get my head around the width of the tail on these type of board

8'8 x 31.5 125L Flow V2 for most conditions when it is play time (thigh to OH)
9'9 x 31 135L custom Insane for when it is BIG (but I will probably use it when it is small or wonky and I need the length/stability)
8'5 x 30 121L Infinity Blurr V2 for when I drop a couple of Kg's and I really want to go top to bottom

I often also use my Style 10'6 x 30" 148L when it is clean and small

Currently 96kg and 6'3 and 60 yo

Hi everyone, Cant you are around the same weight and height as me how do you find the stability of to Flow?

Well reading my post above the other night about the Nalu staying on the rack since I brought the Mini-Stylelord, I decided to give it a run this morning. I have been out of the water the last two weeks, long Covid or something was kicking the crap out of me. So I wanted something easy and decided to head to my local break that would be small but clean and hopefully uncrowded.

I have wanted to try the Nalu as a single fin to see if a large centre fin would tame some of the movement of the board when standing out the back waiting for waves. It seemed to do the trick, high tide and plenty of backwash had me dancing but it was manageable. The big 10 inch fin did make walking around, ok more like shuffling around when riding a wave much easier.

The board responded really well to the big fin, so it will stay in for the time being as it gives the board new life in slow waves. It was at best waist high this morning and the board ran through sections with ease. And it allowed me to try to get my feet moving, which after thirty years of riding a standard six odd foot thruster I really need to do.





Have a great weekend all.

Steve.

My quiver. Some for slow rolling waves, others for bigger and suckier waves. But all are fun to ride.

Thanks for all the good replies, lots of cool boards and different takes.

added this 9x28 104L New Deal and surfed it 3 times last week, along with other sessions on 8x28 Blurr above it.
Really like the ND, had some really fun sensations holding a line and going fast, and also while surfing it more like I would the Blurr. My average fun level through session is higher on ND, cause I can glide around out back and enjoy a wider variety of waves or get them when they stand up on outer bars but don't yet break. but my peaks in fun higher on Blurr cause I can surf it better on the standout waves. If I could surf 3-5 days a week I'd probably use the longboard a lot, but once winter storms get me back to 1-2x per week I'll prob stick to shortboard shape
almost tried ND on an overhead day thinking I could get in earlier and paddle back out faster, but we often have offshore winds in winter and think I feel more comfortable on Blurr if there's a chance I'm gonna get hung up in wind while wave stands up

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tannaman said..
Morning Rick. Great video. Too early here in South Africa for beer n chips but it went well with coffee.
A while back you gave me some advice about a 8.5 Speeed which I bought and absolutely love.
A Casey Flow. 8.4 has become available in Cape Town and I'd love your opinion on that to compliment the Speeed.
70 kg, 65 yrs old and mainly ride head high to bigger pretty fast hollow beach break.
The advice I seek is person specific but others may find your input interesting.
cheers
Tanna.
ps. I can't find the pm you sent me years ago re my Speeed questions

Hi Tanna
My 9'4 is 158 liter and I am 104 kg, so Guild Factor of 1.5
8'4 at 112 liters for you at 70 kg = G/F of 1.59 so it should surf similar for you as mine is for my size.

I got some amazing backside waves today on my 9'4 and it was awesome!
I put a rain hood on SoloShot and paused the recording, so no video.... I'm so bummed. Best session I have had on that board!
It was steep, fast and hard breaking and my biggish Flow was on fire! Solid on turns, fast and very responsive.

Since I put a set of Quobba fins on my 9'4 Flow, it has become my goto board.
Before that it was elusive and I struggled to get the performance that suited me.... now I am fully in sync with it!

Since it is the same volume and length of your Speeed, you should be right at home on it.
Please let me know how it goes, if you decide to get it!

Peace
Rick

Hi Rick,
You running those Quobbas as a thruster or quad set up?
Cheers mate

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Brenno said..

supthecreek said..

tannaman said..
Morning Rick. Great video. Too early here in South Africa for beer n chips but it went well with coffee.
A while back you gave me some advice about a 8.5 Speeed which I bought and absolutely love.
A Casey Flow. 8.4 has become available in Cape Town and I'd love your opinion on that to compliment the Speeed.
70 kg, 65 yrs old and mainly ride head high to bigger pretty fast hollow beach break.
The advice I seek is person specific but others may find your input interesting.
cheers
Tanna.
ps. I can't find the pm you sent me years ago re my Speeed questions

Hi Tanna
My 9'4 is 158 liter and I am 104 kg, so Guild Factor of 1.5
8'4 at 112 liters for you at 70 kg = G/F of 1.59 so it should surf similar for you as mine is for my size.

I got some amazing backside waves today on my 9'4 and it was awesome!
I put a rain hood on SoloShot and paused the recording, so no video.... I'm so bummed. Best session I have had on that board!
It was steep, fast and hard breaking and my biggish Flow was on fire! Solid on turns, fast and very responsive.

Since I put a set of Quobba fins on my 9'4 Flow, it has become my goto board.
Before that it was elusive and I struggled to get the performance that suited me.... now I am fully in sync with it!

Since it is the same volume and length of your Speeed, you should be right at home on it.
Please let me know how it goes, if you decide to get it!

Peace
Rick

Hi Rick,
You running those Quobbas as a thruster or quad set up?
Cheers mate

Hi Brenno,

Quobba's are thruster only as far as I know.
colas cuts down centers to make quad sets, and I hear that Quobba intends to come out with Quads, but none yet.

I prefer the Mixed thruster set.
Large side and medium center.

Everyone talks about the speed of the Quobba's
I have been blown away how they have loosened up all my boards.
Not in a slidey or drifty way, but somehow just follow me better.
Normal or small waves the Quobba's have improved all my boards.

I have held off on doing a Quobba review until I have run them in all types of surf.
I have had them in head high, but never in much bigger than that yet.
Maybe I should just put a video together showing the difference on how I surfed my Flow "Before and After Quobba's".... it's pretty dramatic IMO

12Ft PSH gun in red (goes faster) Great in big bombs out the back, small offshore micro days and flat-water training.
10'6 Laird Pearson Arrow Awesome noise rider, turns off the tail on a dime and is very stable and surftech bulletproof construction.
8'4 Sunova Flow. Fun beach break shortboard
Could add a few more but only 3 allowed.

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supthecreek said..
colas cuts down centers to make quad sets

This is because I like experimenting loosing up a board for small waves, but I was also using L fronts and M rears as quads before:

With sides Ms for added grip and squirt on tiny waves:



With center Ms for more hold in big waves (for me: overhead to 2x overhead) for a wide-tailed board:




Quobba is still working on their quad rears. In February they looked like this, but I have no idea of an available date:

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supthecreek said..

Brenno said..

supthecreek said..

tannaman said..
Morning Rick. Great video. Too early here in South Africa for beer n chips but it went well with coffee.
A while back you gave me some advice about a 8.5 Speeed which I bought and absolutely love.
A Casey Flow. 8.4 has become available in Cape Town and I'd love your opinion on that to compliment the Speeed.
70 kg, 65 yrs old and mainly ride head high to bigger pretty fast hollow beach break.
The advice I seek is person specific but others may find your input interesting.
cheers
Tanna.
ps. I can't find the pm you sent me years ago re my Speeed questions

Hi Tanna
My 9'4 is 158 liter and I am 104 kg, so Guild Factor of 1.5
8'4 at 112 liters for you at 70 kg = G/F of 1.59 so it should surf similar for you as mine is for my size.

I got some amazing backside waves today on my 9'4 and it was awesome!
I put a rain hood on SoloShot and paused the recording, so no video.... I'm so bummed. Best session I have had on that board!
It was steep, fast and hard breaking and my biggish Flow was on fire! Solid on turns, fast and very responsive.

Since I put a set of Quobba fins on my 9'4 Flow, it has become my goto board.
Before that it was elusive and I struggled to get the performance that suited me.... now I am fully in sync with it!

Since it is the same volume and length of your Speeed, you should be right at home on it.
Please let me know how it goes, if you decide to get it!

Peace
Rick

Hi Rick,
You running those Quobbas as a thruster or quad set up?
Cheers mate

Hi Brenno,

Quobba's are thruster only as far as I know.
colas cuts down centers to make quad sets, and I hear that Quobba intends to come out with Quads, but none yet.

I prefer the Mixed thruster set.
Large side and medium center.

Everyone talks about the speed of the Quobba's
I have been blown away how they have loosened up all my boards.
Not in a slidey or drifty way, but somehow just follow me better.
Normal or small waves the Quobba's have improved all my boards.

I have held off on doing a Quobba review until I have run them in all types of surf.
I have had them in head high, but never in much bigger than that yet.
Maybe I should just put a video together showing the difference on how I surfed my Flow "Before and After Quobba's".... it's pretty dramatic IMO

Cheers Rick,
I had been running Quobbas like this in my 8'8" Flow V2, but my custom Flow has a Longboard Centre Box, so was also thinking of running the mixed set with the centre fin set back a smidge. Just to see how it goes.
In fear of hijacking this thread totally, my 3 board quiver at the mo' is:
- 10' x 28" Sunova Casey Revolution XXX tec 2 + 1
- 9' x 28" Smik Hipster Longboard
- 8'8" x 31" Sunova Casey Flow V2 XXX tec
Currently eagerly awaiting my 9' x 30" Revolution

Brenno that's the fin setup I have on top board in pic, felt loose on top turn which I liked, but also loose on bottom on good waves, didn't like that but prob need to work on more rail less fin

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Kisutch said..
Brenno that's the fin setup I have on top board in pic, felt loose on top turn which I liked, but also loose on bottom on good waves, didn't like that but prob need to work on more rail less fin

Same here, that's why I asked Rick what he was running. Hope to try out some more combos soon if there's waves! And work on my footwork. I've been using the longboard SUPs so much, I've lost touch with this shape

Pretty sure I've done one of these before. But I'll do it again.

9'6" x 29" x 4.25" 127 litres, 7.2kg. Surefire Custom. My shortboard

10'6" x 30" x 4.25" 140ish litres Surefire Custom longboard noserider 9.5 kg

11'11" x 29.5" x 4.5" 170ish litres Surefire Custom big order ave gun. 9.6 kg

All boards glassed in Innegra

3 PSH 12 foot guns