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2017 Starboard Ace

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nosaj27
nosaj27

QLD

271 posts

8 Jul 2016 8:06pm
Just saw the Starboard ad on the back of the SUP World mag and noticed that the ad mentions two board sizes for the Ace 14' x 25" and 14' x 27". Does this mean Starboard have heard the voice of reason and bought back the 27" Ace??


WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

NSW

1613 posts

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8 Jul 2016 8:46pm
It's coming back for sure! Lighter (new construction), cheaper (almost 20% down) and sooner than usual for be model Aces. Stock will be on deck early Sept.
nosaj27
nosaj27

QLD

271 posts

8 Jul 2016 8:57pm
Cheers Sam
SeaSea
SeaSea

15 posts

9 Jul 2016 9:19am
Wonder why they are droping the 14x23 ace?
WINDSURFnSNOW
WINDSURFnSNOW

NSW

1613 posts

Site Sponsor

9 Jul 2016 11:26am
Wasn't selling would probably be the main reason.
Also it didn't prove to be faster than the 25" version in bumps as most team guys chose the 25"version.
dave.h
dave.h

WA

194 posts

9 Jul 2016 2:10pm
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WINDSURFnSNOW said..
It's coming back for sure! Lighter (new construction), cheaper (almost 20% down) and sooner than usual for be model Aces. Stock will be on deck early Sept.


can you give prices for the racing boards yet or are they not available to the public till later in the year.
DiscoStupid
DiscoStupid

NSW

90 posts

9 Jul 2016 5:21pm
14'0"" by 21.5" Sprint !
PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

9 Jul 2016 5:30pm
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SeaSea said..
Wonder why they are droping the 14x23 ace?


Popular demand for the 14x27. Minuscule market for the 14x23. I've owned all sizes at various times but for me, the 25 and then 27 are best. The 23 felt kind of pointless. Heavier and more volume than the 25, tippier and without any discernible gain in speed.
Argosi
Argosi

66 posts

12 Jul 2016 12:02pm
I've owned the 25 and 23.5 Aces. I actually found the 14x23.5 to be a bit more slippery and caught bumps easier. For most riders, the 14x25 should fit the bill but for some lighter paddlers, the 23.5 is faster. I swapped from the 25 to the 23.5 after trying the narrower board a few times in downwind conditions. I find the 23.5 pretty stable in winds up to 25-30mph.
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

12 Jul 2016 4:05pm
You must be a very skilled rider. I wouldn't take my 14x25 Ace out in 30 knots, never mind a version that is 2" narrower. But I guess it depends where you are taking it. On a canal in 30 knots would be fine. In the sea in 30 knots would not.
Argosi
Argosi

66 posts

15 Jul 2016 10:45pm
I'm not very skilled at all, but I do have pretty good balance. We have pretty messy downwind conditions here - definitely not organized bumps. My 14x23.5 Ace is my "downwind" and rough water board but over 30mph, I'd definitely prefer to be on something more stable. I find the Ace plenty stable, even in cross chop, but the board is very tricky to surf from the tail due to the narrow pin tail and the raised side walls. When it gets to near 30mph, there are lots of other boards that surf better. I just try to stay on waves and not fall off at that point. We rarely get winds of 30mph around here though, where a decent downwinder is in 20-30mph of wind. The Ace works well in those conditions. If we had lots of over 30mph days, I'd also get another board that would be more fun to surf.

The Ace is surprisingly good in confused chop as well - provided you pay your dues getting used to the board (like a year paddling it). It seems able to get an extra push from any chop going in the right direction, even when surrounded by chop from multiple directions. It almost feels like you're paddling downwind despite chop coming from everywhere. It's definitely a workout and requires full time concentration, but I enjoy it in a masochistic way.
SeaSea
SeaSea

15 posts

17 Jul 2016 2:28am
Any tips or favored techniques for paddling an ace in a cross chop?
Area10
Area10

1508 posts

17 Jul 2016 6:35am
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SeaSea said...
Any tips or favored techniques for paddling an ace in a cross chop?

Try not to curse too loud.
Argosi
Argosi

66 posts

18 Jul 2016 9:55am
Messy cross chop requires your undivided attention and concentration. Good if you want to get your mind off everything else. Shorter strokes also help.
LouD
LouD

WA

642 posts

19 Jul 2016 11:40am
Have they dropped the volume on the Ace 14X27 or still the same?
PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

19 Jul 2016 7:55pm
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LouD said..
Have they dropped the volume on the Ace 14X27 or still the same?


Dropped.
SupersizeP2L
SupersizeP2L

44 posts

13 Aug 2016 10:48am
hi will be 332l

Auswind
Auswind

WA

398 posts

Site Sponsor

15 Aug 2016 5:30pm
Few snaps of the first Ace's in Australia. Also more specs available here: standuppaddlesports.com.au/











PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

15 Aug 2016 8:07pm
That's fascinating - the tail end of the dugout looks like it's back to the future. They've been quite squared off lately but the new one is ramped just like the very first Ace.
Auswind
Auswind

WA

398 posts

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16 Aug 2016 1:05pm
PTWoody the ramped up tail is to prevent stalling when going through a wave / chop allows the water to flow out rather than hit the squared out section.

So here it is after a couple of season absence the 14'0 x 27 Ace is back and it looks sweet. The 27 wide allow more of us to paddle the fastest downwind shape available..... excited to get these on the water.













BrisKites
BrisKites

QLD

1292 posts

16 Aug 2016 9:51pm
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dave.h said..

can you give prices for the racing boards yet or are they not available to the public till later in the year.


Range released today. Ace is $4099
SeaSea
SeaSea

15 posts

22 Aug 2016 4:15am
Would love to know what changes are in the 2017 Ace 14x25, they make it different from the 2015 Ace 25 and wondering if it is worth upgrading?
Also like to hear how the new Ace compares to the 2017 NSP DC ocean race 24.5
Todzilla
Todzilla

189 posts

22 Aug 2016 7:26am
Any further news/details on the Ace Unlimited...???



PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

22 Aug 2016 2:27pm
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SeaSea said..
Would love to know what changes are in the 2017 Ace 14x25, they make it different from the 2015 Ace 25 and wondering if it is worth upgrading?
Also like to hear how the new Ace compares to the 2017 NSP DC ocean race 24.5


There are some modifications in the distribution of volume with the 2017 being 307 litres compared to 290 litres for the 2015 so it will surely be more stable. But the main change is in the construction. The new Ace is no longer a carbon sandwich, it's a single layer of high grade biaxial carbon. This makes it lighter which is great, but also just a little more fragile than a sandwich construction. I found the 2016 Ace (sandwich construction) to be bullet proof as the 2015 one was also. That will be your consideration for upgrading - do you want a lighter, faster and more stable board, and if so, are you prepared to look after it a little better?
beruvian
beruvian

1 posts

21 Mar 2017 11:45am
does anyone have suggestion on best way to repair a ding/ crack after hitting my head on the starboard ace? just bought today, used but like new. first time taking it out in rough conditions!


windara
windara

QLD

256 posts

21 Mar 2017 9:59pm
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beruvian said..
does anyone have suggestion on best way to repair a ding/ crack after hitting my head on the starboard ace? just bought today, used but like new. first time taking it out in rough conditions!

Sheesh....first of all- how is your head feeling?
colas
colas

5370 posts

22 Mar 2017 12:09am
My solution for these kind of dings is:
- drill holes in the ding area, dry the ding with rolled tissues fanning out
- inject resin + microspheres in the blank below with a syringe in the holes
- once hard, it is easy to remove the glass on the ding while keeping the rail shape: the blank underneath has become a solid mass. So you can just sand away the old glass but keep the exact rail shape.
- re-glass on it.

The traditional way is to remove the glass, then rebuild the rail shape and re-glass, with which I find harder to keep the rail shape.
PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

22 Mar 2017 11:56am
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colas said..
My solution for these kind of dings is:
- drill holes in the ding area, dry the ding with rolled tissues fanning out
- inject resin + microspheres in the blank below with a syringe in the holes
- once hard, it is easy to remove the glass on the ding while keeping the rail shape: the blank underneath has become a solid mass. So you can just sand away the old glass but keep the exact rail shape.
- re-glass on it.

The traditional way is to remove the glass, then rebuild the rail shape and re-glass, with which I find harder to keep the rail shape.


That's a really clever method, Colas. I always use the traditional approach of sanding and filling. But as you say, a repair on the rail and especially on a sharp edge is much more difficult to reshape. The hardest part is often positioning the board after you've applied the resin so that it doesn't run off the edge before the resin has set. I imagine that injecting the resin under the broken glass or carbon means that the glass or carbon will restrain the resin while it sets.
Rideordie
Rideordie

159 posts

31 Mar 2017 10:21pm
Or you could just hit the easy button and throw on a Puka Patch. Get you through the season and repair in off season.
Krist
Krist

QLD

288 posts

1 Apr 2017 12:47am
So when was the last 27 ace before this year and are they very rare as I only ever see 25inch for sale , I have tried the 2017 27 inch and loved it also a older 25 on flat that I think would be too much work for my skill level height and weight cheers ps I found the ace faster then the allstar to paddle
PTWoody
PTWoody

VIC

3982 posts

1 Apr 2017 11:27am
2014 was the last 27" Ace. I think people just tended to hold onto them knowing there wasn't a new one available. They were fairly heavy at that time whereas the 2017 is constructed differently so it's lighter.
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