Hi there...

Im tossing up between these two boards. Im 95kg and after a carvy wave board for rail turns... not a short wide flat board.

Anyone ridden these back to back and can comment
?

Ok so....... no feedback, so I tested a hokua 9.0 in terrible sloppy High tide cross shore junk.. I was in the water more than I was on....but.... When the stars aligned and I was standing on the board when a wave came....it paddles in really well. Tracks straight and surfed what little wall there was really well. It feels more surfboard like than the egg shaped 2012 starboard 8'5 I had been on, and faster. At 28 3/4 wide and under 4 thick.... The hokua is thin.

I really need to ride them all back to back...my memory of the 8'10 pro wave was it was mor stable and a little livelier. . That may be weight or different conditions,,,,.. very hard to decide....

I used to own the Hokua 9ft and changed down to the 2012 8'10" - so not quite the same board (I think there were a few tweaks to make it a bit faster).

I can let you know my views on the 2012 but may not be worthwhile?

all views are good views.. fore away :)

I had a paddle on the 9.0 today in small 5-10 knot onshore waves. much easier, must have tried it on a bad day. it surfs well! i think it would benefit from a LE carbon construction to liven it up!! but it turns great, got some decentwaves in rubbish.

im getting one.

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BenKirk said...
I used to own the Hokua 9ft and changed down to the 2012 8'10" - so not quite the same board (I think there were a few tweaks to make it a bit faster).

I can let you know my views on the 2012 but may not be worthwhile?

What reasons did you change down to the 8'10" and how did the two compare?
Also what weight and experience level were you when you switched?
Thanks

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skebstebamal said...
all views are good views.. fore away :)

I had a paddle on the 9.0 today in small 5-10 knot onshore waves. much easier, must have tried it on a bad day. it surfs well! i think it would benefit from a LE carbon construction to liven it up!! but it turns great, got some decentwaves in rubbish.

im getting one.

I have been riding the 9'10" Hokua lately and am looking for something a bit more lively in small onshore type waves (anything decent, I am on my short board)
I find the 9'10" a bit slow to get going, sits back in the pocket nicely but isn't that lively and needs to be worked a lot in small waves. I did take it out last week in larger swell and I found with the extra push it was a different board, it got a bit more speed and was easier to manoeuvre with less effort required.
I am not sure whether to try the 9'0" as I thought it would need more larger size waves to get it going, but it may have less drag and perform better than I expect.
Interested to hear your thoughts as I am considering the 9'3" Pro Wave or going to the Surf Wide options.

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Flying High said...

skebstebamal said...
all views are good views.. fore away :)

I had a paddle on the 9.0 today in small 5-10 knot onshore waves. much easier, must have tried it on a bad day. it surfs well! i think it would benefit from a LE carbon construction to liven it up!! but it turns great, got some decentwaves in rubbish.

im getting one.

I have been riding the 9'10" Hokua lately and am looking for something a bit more lively in small onshore type waves (anything decent, I am on my short board)
I find the 9'10" a bit slow to get going, sits back in the pocket nicely but isn't that lively and needs to be worked a lot in small waves. I did take it out last week in larger swell and I found with the extra push it was a different board, it got a bit more speed and was easier to manoeuvre with less effort required.
I am not sure whether to try the 9'0" as I thought it would need more larger size waves to get it going, but it may have less drag and perform better than I expect.
Interested to hear your thoughts as I am considering the 9'3" Pro Wave or going to the Surf Wide options.

Not sure how much you weighetc, but imo the 9'3 pro wave is not that great, the 8'10 is really nice.

the 8'10 pro wave and 9'0 hokua are fairly similar in stability imo as whils the hokua is narrower and thinner, the extra length and volume def help paddling in.

it is tippy in swelly (messy) conditions for me, but light onshore but clean swell wasno problem.

if the hokua was a full carbon board.... it would be a battle between the two.... if cost is an issue go the hokua (hrs pro wave might bean option but i havent tried one so not sure what effect the weight has) but if you want full performance for me.. id go pro wave the weight makes a big difference in small slop like ur talking of (i have an allwave for junk days) .. but they are hardto get hold offright now.

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Flying High said...

skebstebamal said...
all views are good views.. fore away :)

I had a paddle on the 9.0 today in small 5-10 knot onshore waves. much easier, must have tried it on a bad day. it surfs well! i think it would benefit from a LE carbon construction to liven it up!! but it turns great, got some decentwaves in rubbish.

im getting one.

I have been riding the 9'10" Hokua lately and am looking for something a bit more lively in small onshore type waves (anything decent, I am on my short board)
I find the 9'10" a bit slow to get going, sits back in the pocket nicely but isn't that lively and needs to be worked a lot in small waves. I did take it out last week in larger swell and I found with the extra push it was a different board, it got a bit more speed and was easier to manoeuvre with less effort required.
I am not sure whether to try the 9'0" as I thought it would need more larger size waves to get it going, but it may have less drag and perform better than I expect.
Interested to hear your thoughts as I am considering the 9'3" Pro Wave or going to the Surf Wide options.

I've got both 9'10 & 9'0 Hokuas. I know what you mean by the 9'10 being a bit slow & needs to be worked in small waves. It really needs upwards of 3 foot before it starts to come alive.

The 9'0 however is good in any size. Feels really light under foot, fast, & so easy to throw around. It is a very tippy board though. anything less than perfect conditions & i'm swimming often.

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skebstebamal said...

Flying High said...

skebstebamal said...
all views are good views.. fore away :)

I had a paddle on the 9.0 today in small 5-10 knot onshore waves. much easier, must have tried it on a bad day. it surfs well! i think it would benefit from a LE carbon construction to liven it up!! but it turns great, got some decentwaves in rubbish.

im getting one.

I have been riding the 9'10" Hokua lately and am looking for something a bit more lively in small onshore type waves (anything decent, I am on my short board)
I find the 9'10" a bit slow to get going, sits back in the pocket nicely but isn't that lively and needs to be worked a lot in small waves. I did take it out last week in larger swell and I found with the extra push it was a different board, it got a bit more speed and was easier to manoeuvre with less effort required.
I am not sure whether to try the 9'0" as I thought it would need more larger size waves to get it going, but it may have less drag and perform better than I expect.
Interested to hear your thoughts as I am considering the 9'3" Pro Wave or going to the Surf Wide options.

Not sure how much you weighetc, but imo the 9'3 pro wave is not that great, the 8'10 is really nice.

the 8'10 pro wave and 9'0 hokua are fairly similar in stability imo as whils the hokua is narrower and thinner, the extra length and volume def help paddling in.

it is tippy in swelly (messy) conditions for me, but light onshore but clean swell wasno problem.

if the hokua was a full carbon board.... it would be a battle between the two.... if cost is an issue go the hokua (hrs pro wave might bean option but i havent tried one so not sure what effect the weight has) but if you want full performance for me.. id go pro wave the weight makes a big difference in small slop like ur talking of (i have an allwave for junk days) .. but they are hardto get hold offright now.

Thanks for that, I am 80 kg and fairly new to SUP, I was thinking of trying the 9'3" Pro Wave to assist with the paddle in and general stability.
I thought the 9'0" Hokua would be tippy as I found the 9'10" tippy for the first month or two although all good now. I will probably have to put up with another couple of months of swimming to get to that next stage. That's why I was also considering a JP surf wide 8'8"

im fairly new to it also... october last year. The shorter wide body boards are definately a great way to get into shorter sup! good luck. :)

Sorry went AWOL!

I changed down to an 8'10" ProWave purely so I can SUPsail which means I don't need to take my big waveboard away for weekends.

The Fanatic is a lot fuller through the shoulders/nose and not as rockered (from above) so it has a stubby/fish like look to it. It makes you wonder if you'll trip the nose more (you don't). The shoulders make doing floaters a lot easier.

The 8'10" has a load more tail rocker and as such you can really take turns/reos etc a lot later than the hokua. I'd go for a turn without much hope of coming out of it and sure enough I was setup for another turn. Of course this also means that the acceleration is slower with the Fanatic - I found the Hokua came off the top quicker (but then I am turning more vertically with the ProWave).

Build quality of both boards is excellent with good pads - I do prefer the hokua's recessed deck though - I find it helps stability. I would say that the hokua is a lot lighter and has a much better handle. Stability wise is too close to call.

Overall I prefer the hokua in bigger waves where the speed/gunnier shape is a major positive. In all other waves I'd go for the ProWave as it just turns so well. I will be upgrading to the 8'10" 2014 as I want a lighter board for airs off the lip etc.

To answer your question on skill level, I have been SUPing for 5 years and weigh in anywhere between 88-93kgs.

Both boards are excellent!

cool thanks Ben. pretty much as i thought.. i think im going to run a 10'6.5 nalu for small junk and over 10 foot surf comps, and try the 9'0 for when its on! tempted to try the 8'5 but think ill swim too much.

I had 6 surfs on my 2013 8'10 prowave , Im 93 kg and I love it .
From glassy to cross shore conditions , it handles it all well . Ive surfed for 25 yrs and supped for 2 . These prowaves are unreal .