Hi all. I'm trying to set some training goals. rough as guts in flat water, what sort of board speed could a good paddler push a 14' ACE 27 along for say 60 minutes? 8.0km/h , 9.0 km/hr? And what about over a shorter say km sprint distance?

Cheers.

Probally 9k per hour over 4 km would be pretty good. The ace 27 is a very quick board downwind in the ocean.

Thanks scotty, good in ocean thats good to know.

What is best trim position, im 100kg and was trying to work out in flat water whether im better right up front with more nose in the water, or further back??? might need a gps to check.

It also depends on the conditions i.e.tide and wind. I just managed an average of 8.8km/hr for 12 hours 33mins doing the Hawkesbury Classic on the 25 Ace, but that had tidal assistance at some points. Pure flat water no tide or wind I would imagine a lot of people could keep it above 9km/hr for an hour.

Awesome time Cam. Well done!!

12 hours!! thats superhuman.

what effect does tide have. say im doing a 5k loop half with tide, half against.... does it balance to be approx the same as still water?? Same question for wind...

Thanks for your input. just trying to get a grasp so i can compare training times etc.

ace 25 is substancially faster than the ace 27 in flat water

Depending on what board you are on determines the effect of the wind/tide. Something like the Ace sits above the water meaning into the tide it flies, but having so much board out of the water means there is more board to be effected by wind.

I recently paddled the Naish MC and that is quick,but with the quite large square rails is affected by the wind.

Tide to some level can be minimised by where you paddle in relation to how deep the water is.

I would personally say that into the wind/tide will slow you down more than paddling with the wind/tide will speed you up.

I agree. i have a 9km training loop. ive only just started paddling so ive only got two times to compare :)

first was paddling with a topping out run in tide and back against the same slowing run in. 1:05.

second was out with a incoming strong tide but into a 10-20 gusty northerly... turned the island in 32 and thought here we go! downwind.... not... because the current was so strong the runners were slow, so i had to paddle over the runners... worked out halfway back i was better on the edge of the channel with wind but not swell. 43 mins return leg. i was surprised, i thought for sure the wind would have me tearing on the return.guess not.

Had an up wind / downwind paddle in ocean this arvo. . . Had many swims, but the thing is a machine at picking up runners. Felt too unstable if I moved back, so had to stay up front on runners? Is this the way to do it? Or move back? Very challenging.... Glad I didn't get the 25'!!

better to stay forward till you are definetly on, then move back. If you move back too early, you slow down and might not make it on. If you stay foward too long, your risk plough the nose and fall in. You will learn to work the balance.