Sealing leaky mast. Worth the effort?

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stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
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7 Sep 2019 12:02pm
Really enjoying my new foil. Has brought my proning to a new (comfortably intermediate) level. Unlike my old slingshot setup however, the mast leaks/holds a ton of water. Supposedly not uncommon.

I did look around on other posts that revealed both successful & unsuccessful attempts at sealing it.
- Simple bathroom silicone (Additional suggestion was pushing a small sponge in for silicone to form a base against)
- Using marine putty stuff (2 parts mix together to go off)
- Don't bother....deal with it...or just upgrade the 2018 SS with the (very complimented) 2019 76/84cm wing

I saw the gong foil offers mast plugs....good Idea...but not an option on my current one.

Just wondering who has done with success....and not? Sincere thanks to learn from your experiences.
Clamsmasha
Clamsmasha
WA
311 posts
WA, 311 posts
7 Sep 2019 5:21pm
stevet73 said..
Really enjoying my new foil. Has brought my proning to a new (comfortably intermediate) level. Unlike my old slingshot setup however, the mast leaks/holds a ton of water. Supposedly not uncommon.

I did look around on other posts that revealed both successful & unsuccessful attempts at sealing it.
- Simple bathroom silicone (Additional suggestion was pushing a small sponge in for silicone to form a base against)
- Using marine putty stuff (2 parts mix together to go off)
- Don't bother....deal with it...or just upgrade the 2018 SS with the (very complimented) 2019 76/84cm wing

I saw the gong foil offers mast plugs....good Idea...but not an option on my current one.

Just wondering who has done with success....and not? Sincere thanks to learn from your experiences.


Bathroom silicone worked for me.
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
8 Sep 2019 7:39am
What would be really annoying for me - would be water stuck in the mast that wouldn't come out
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
8 Sep 2019 8:03am
Thanks guys. So far, score is 1/1 .....do/don't....
Clamsmasha
Clamsmasha
WA
311 posts
WA, 311 posts
8 Sep 2019 7:39am
Silicone is made to keep water out.

If you do it properly, the chance of water getting in is pretty much zero.
If you don't do it properly, it's only silicone...

Just get up in there with a drill or blade, drain it and seal it again.
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
8 Sep 2019 4:48pm
I'm an impatient bugger....so I just did it. Stuffed some foam down all holes for the silicone to back up against (as one post suggested)....

....then squirted away...threaded the screws in/out before clean up....


Fingers crossed....

Clamsmasha
Clamsmasha
WA
311 posts
WA, 311 posts
8 Sep 2019 8:34pm
Very nice, much neater than mine. I'm sure it'll work perfectly.
Hdip
Hdip
472 posts
472 posts
9 Sep 2019 4:22am
Let me know if you notice a big difference. I've never sealed my Naish mast in a year and a half. I'm wondering if sealing my mast and cutting down my tail will keep me amped so I don't have to buy new gear.
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
9 Sep 2019 6:38am
Thanks for the inspiration clamsmasha.

Hdip, foil really goes well but just so annoying to have to empty each session...if this works it will definitely keep me frothing on it for a while....
jt737
jt737
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418 posts
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9 Sep 2019 11:09am
Sorry can't seem to post any other way except from original FB site

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scotty100
scotty100
QLD
235 posts
QLD, 235 posts
9 Sep 2019 11:31am
Chances are it will still leak and then be almost imposible to get water out, so no from me
Fishdude
Fishdude
315 posts
315 posts
9 Sep 2019 12:05pm
If you clean the surface well it shouldn't leak. 90% alcohol works just make sure it's perfectly clean. 15mm thick of contact area with *fresh* sealant (100% Silicon or construction sealant...) should do the trick.

If you want the best sealant use Goop. You have to wait 48 hours allowing it fully cure before getting it wet. Using Goop will guarantee it won't leak. Goop will outlast the mast and bonds like crazy.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
9 Sep 2019 2:49pm
I did exactly the same sealing job. Clean with alcohol. Foam plugs. 15mm Sikaflex marine sealant.

In cold water the air inside contracted and dislodged the sealant and water got in. It was pretty easy to push the plugs out with a length of dowel and clean it all up.
surfcowboy
surfcowboy
164 posts
164 posts
9 Sep 2019 4:00pm
I think the mineral spirits idea is a good one. (Watch the video.). That and giving it a good 20-30 mm like Charlie lays out should be better than a small layer of non-diluted silicone.
anders884
anders884
54 posts
54 posts
9 Sep 2019 5:17pm
I did this some months ago with expanding foam stuffed down and topped up about 7-10mm of silicone. 100% watertight. But the screw seems to leak just enough through the threads?? The pressure must have gotten the best out of it. Thats mine experience. Please let me know if anyone gets a better result.
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
9 Sep 2019 9:18pm
Super interesting that some have just squirted in silicone and it's held whilst others done a lot of prep and it's failed...so glad I've floated the question.

I do have a back up plan. I am due to go a 70cm mast....so that will replace the current siliconed one....if it fails...
Clamsmasha
Clamsmasha
WA
311 posts
WA, 311 posts
9 Sep 2019 7:43pm
anders884 said..
I did this some months ago with expanding foam stuffed down and topped up about 7-10mm of silicone. 100% watertight. But the screw seems to leak just enough through the threads?? The pressure must have gotten the best out of it. Thats mine experience. Please let me know if anyone gets a better result.


The screw channels won't be water proof unless you jam som silicone down beyond the reach of the screws. I did that and worked, but had the added benefit of working like Tefgel or the like.
anders884
anders884
54 posts
54 posts
9 Sep 2019 8:19pm
Clamsmasha said..

anders884 said..
I did this some months ago with expanding foam stuffed down and topped up about 7-10mm of silicone. 100% watertight. But the screw seems to leak just enough through the threads?? The pressure must have gotten the best out of it. Thats mine experience. Please let me know if anyone gets a better result.



The screw channels won't be water proof unless you jam som silicone down beyond the reach of the screws. I did that and worked, but had the added benefit of working like Tefgel or the like.


Copy that! Will do another attempt to seal it
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
10 Sep 2019 7:19pm
I pushed my sponge "backing plates" in about 2-3cm in the general mast holes but about 6cm on the screw holes....to still get same 2-3cm seal below the thread....screwed the threads twice immediately after injection...
stevet73
stevet73
NSW
241 posts
NSW, 241 posts
11 Sep 2019 7:55am
First session since sealing. Appears to have worked....have to see how it holds over time....but loads better....
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