I can foil on sailboard (not gybing yet ) - i have fair bit of time in surf on sup in friendly conditions.

I weigh 80 kgs and currently ride stubbie 8' 2" 106 litres and laird 9 ft -120 litres

i have SS i76 foil - what is suitable sup board for foiling - I would like purpsoe SUP foil board - any recommendations - mainly small surf up to 4'

I can foil on sailboard (not gybing yet ) - i have fair bit of time in surf on sup in friendly conditions.

I weigh 80 kgs and currently ride stubbie 8' 2" 106 litres and laird 9 ft -120 litres

i have SS i76 foil - what is suitable sup board for foiling - I would like purpsoe SUP foil board - any recommendations - mainly small surf up to 4'

Fanatic 6'7 120 lts,Naish Hover SUP 110 lts, Smik,JP,Starboard,ONE all make good SUP foilboards in the 110-120 lts range from 6-7 ft long.

I'm a landlocked surfer and I'm interested in buying a foil sup for paddling around the lake. I'm hoping I could ride boat waves as they pass by.
Does this seem doable on a big wing? I've seen some amazing videos of guys on small bumps just cruising for long rides but I don't know how hard it would be to paddle into such small waves. It's easy on my regular 11' SUP but I would rather buy something short that can pump well like the 6' Ride Engine Moon buddy at 120 liters.

I'm a strong paddler on SUP and I already know how to foil behind the boat and with a kite. I'm just debating whether or not putting those skills together makes sense for someone paddling on a lake. It would be incredible if it worked well. At some point I may buy a wing as well but that's not my goal at the moment. BTW, I'm 91 kilos.

welcome to fun wyfly. I haven't heard of anyone trying what you describe...I think you'd be hard pressed to catch a boat wake paddling a sup foil. Though racers and downwinders can do flat-water sup starts, so it's not impossible ... but it seems like freakish-level fitness and skill to do it.

What I have seen in videos is riders dock starting with a prone foil and then pumping out to ride boat wakes. This is also mega skiilled, but maybe more attainable by an above-average rider, slightly below freak-level (though personally I am working hard at it and still can't yet do the pump monkey thing....I remain at the Peter Garret dancing level).

Finally what is definitely attainable: wing foiling into boat wakes. See the videos of the riders in San Fran bay stealing wakes from ferries and freighters. Your own personal tow-in! Problem is, pleasure boats won't be out on your lake when it's windy enough to wing.

In the end, sounds like you need to sell your car and get an e-foil


PS I have a dream of using one of these e-fins to provide just barely enough extra juice to be able to paddle into unbreaking waves...if I ever receive it (kickstarter) and if it works, I will update my post, as this would be an answer in your situation potentially

boostsurfing.com/

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WYFLY said..
I'm a landlocked surfer and I'm interested in buying a foil sup for paddling around the lake. I'm hoping I could ride boat waves as they pass by.
Does this seem doable on a big wing? I've seen some amazing videos of guys on small bumps just cruising for long rides but I don't know how hard it would be to paddle into such small waves. It's easy on my regular 11' SUP but I would rather buy something short that can pump well like the 6' Ride Engine Moon buddy at 120 liters.

I'm a strong paddler on SUP and I already know how to foil behind the boat and with a kite. I'm just debating whether or not putting those skills together makes sense for someone paddling on a lake. It would be incredible if it worked well. At some point I may buy a wing as well but that's not my goal at the moment. BTW, I'm 91 kilos.

Should be doable if you are a strong sup paddler, however it will be fairly hard at first if you haven't had much pumping experience to help you catch the wake and get up.

I have done this quite a lot and if the surf and wind are siht then I am always down where the big boats are trying to scab a wash. Bigger the wash the better but even a jet ski or tinny wash can work.
.Getting up is actually really easy and with a bit if practice and timing you can catch any wash with just a few strokes.
Big foil will help, you have to catch the second or 3rd swell that passes under you and once up you can go for as long as the boat stays at a good speed.

I might make a short clip one day of this and post it so you can see how easy it is.

Jacko

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kobo said..
Fanatic 6'7 120 lts,Naish Hover SUP 110 lts, Smik,JP,Starboard,ONE all make good SUP foilboards in the 110-120 lts range from 6-7 ft long.

and Armstrong ??

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jondrums said..
Without a doubt, a SUP foil setup can get into waves that are impossible to catch on a prone. From past experience on non-foil SUP, I can get into waves earlier on a foil-SUP using a combination of paddling and pumping. That means I can ride waves that no other common wave-riding craft* can - and I'm not some elite athlete. There are guys who can flat-water start a SUP-foil, which means they could catch any kind of wave regardless of size or steepness.

This alone makes SUP foiling very interesting for me because I can go to places where nobody else is and catch every single wave I want to catch. Shh, don't tell anyone else about this little secret. I keep wondering how long I'll get empty take-off zones, but so far so good.

* the good kayak guys can come close to catching waves as early, and the oc-1/surfski guys can get waves I can't get.

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Agreed with what JonDrums typed..

-red

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normster said..
I can foil on sailboard (not gybing yet ) - i have fair bit of time in surf on sup in friendly conditions.

I weigh 80 kgs and currently ride stubbie 8' 2" 106 litres and laird 9 ft -120 litres

i have SS i76 foil - what is suitable sup board for foiling - I would like purpsoe SUP foil board - any recommendations - mainly small surf up to 4'

suggest a bigger board volume than you normally ride normster - just started SUP soil on a 110L 6'0 foilboard, same volume as my normal SUP, and fk me is it hard. and im relatively experienced on a SUP. i plan to get the hang of things with a wing before spending too much more time on the sup alone

I havent spent a lot of time flat water paddling the foil sup though and that might help more.

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normster said..
I can foil on sailboard (not gybing yet ) - i have fair bit of time in surf on sup in friendly conditions.

I weigh 80 kgs and currently ride stubbie 8' 2" 106 litres and laird 9 ft -120 litres

i have SS i76 foil - what is suitable sup board for foiling - I would like purpsoe SUP foil board - any recommendations - mainly small surf up to 4'

suggest a bigger board volume than you normally ride normster - just started SUP soil on a 110L 6'0 foilboard, same volume as my normal SUP, and fk me is it hard. and im relatively experienced on a SUP. i plan to get the hang of things with a wing before spending too much more time on the sup alone

I havent spent a lot of time flat water paddling the foil sup though and that might help more.

WYFLY, This inlander in the States has a pretty rich catalog of testing videos you should review.



Jimmy

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normster said..
I can foil on sailboard (not gybing yet ) - i have fair bit of time in surf on sup in friendly conditions.

I weigh 80 kgs and currently ride stubbie 8' 2" 106 litres and laird 9 ft -120 litres

i have SS i76 foil - what is suitable sup board for foiling - I would like purpsoe SUP foil board - any recommendations - mainly small surf up to 4'

67 kg sup foil Armstrong 5 foot 5 . HS 1250 and HH 1550 stable and very light.

SUP foil the only option for big waves. I have never seen anyone catch a wave overhead on a prone board under their own power.

I am going out in 10 to 15 foot faces and catching waves up to twice a week in Northern California. Granted I have Mavericks in my backyard. SUP Foil only. But watch the break and chose the waves wisely. When they jack up, scallop and fade into deep water its perfect.

Here was an example on my "BIG" wing. Typically I will ride my GL210 or now the GoFoil NL 190 until it is guaranteed bigger than 10 feet. Then I will step down the the GL140 or now the NL130 for 10 to 15ft++ faces. Mavericks guys have said these waves are even hard to catch on Mavs guns meaning 10' to 10' 6" boards. Essentially my 7' 4" SUP is like a big wave gun. Get up and fly then find the safe patch that's not going to crush you. IF there are ever prone guys out with me they are 500 yards further inside of this takeoff spot. Said another way they aren't going to catch a smaller wave and paddle out to then get one of these bigger ones.

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This vid is almost 2 years old, watching Jake is why I got into SUP foiling. Check the background and how many surfers are out at the next peak. It gets you away from the crowd. He is next level now but camera shy which is a pity.

And this photo from same era hooked me. I thought it was lame until I saw Jake foiling.