I've been looking at the Naish Hover Crossover 120 for SUP and Windsurf foiling.

Has anybody been using this board for both ?

Do you use the same foil for both ? or do you need a separate wing for windsurfing ?

I weigh 78kg, and I have SUPed and windsurfed for quite a fair while.

My only foiling experience is behind a boat last year, for about 1 hr. I got up flying on the foil for about 45 mins.

Has anyone used any other brand of board for both SUP/Windsurf foiling ?

Aaron

Hey Aaron,

I work for Naish Aus, so will just answer your Q's after mentioning that I love windfoiling the 120 CO, such a cool setup.

Here's a quick vid windfoiling in super light condition on the Naish 120 Crossover, Thrust Surf Large and Lift 5.7m.


This is the same board (essentially) SUP Foiling.


Both times using the same foil. So to answer your Q's,

Yes I use it for both.

Yes the C/O is designed to be windfoiled with the Thrust Surf Foils

Buying the WS1 (Thrust Windsurf Foil Wing) is an option, but not really essential or needed. It will give you better top end and smoother lift off and more efficient glide, the Surf wings are little more agressive and produce a little bit more lift early.

If you can Windsurf, ride in the straps confidently, and are used to planning, it won't take you ling to master foiling on the Hover and Thrust setup.

Time behind the boat is invaluable. always a worthy training no matter how good you think you are.

Enjoy, hope this helps,

regards,

JB

Thanks JB, that was the kind of info I was after

Aaron

New to this forum but love the info. Getting ready to buy the JP surf slate or Naish hover but not sure of size. I am 80kg and and years of SUP surfing in a 9'8" HOBIE. What are these boards like without the foil ? JP 8'2" is sold out so not sure if 7'8" or 8'10"? I want it small for foiling as I expect to learn but also able to surf without the foil? Any input would be helpful

You could find a cheap 2nd hand 120 -150 litre SUP and either Foilmount or pay to have boxes retrofitted.
When you get through the learning curve and become entranced flying above the water, you won't be thinking about a hybrid SUP anymore, and you can go shopping!

Thanks for input!

Just wondering what are the pros and cons of the Naish Hover Crossover 120 vs 150 for an 85kg rider?

I'm guessing the larger size will make it easier to catch waves, but is it much harder to pump and manoeuvre when you are on the foil?

Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

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gybeski said..
Just wondering what are the pros and cons of the Naish Hover Crossover 120 vs 150 for an 85kg rider?

I'm guessing the larger size will make it easier to catch waves, but is it much harder to pump and manoeuvre when you are on the foil?

Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

I have gone from JP Australia Wood Edition 7'0" x 28" to the Pro 6'8" x 26". The smaller board is noticeably lighter and more lively, I found it that it helped me to catch waves I could not catch with the bigger heavier board. There was enough to tip me over and get on the waves.
I would recommend a small board as you can paddle around on and when up on the foil you benefit from the smaller board.

That's my experience on another brand

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anders884 said..

gybeski said..
Just wondering what are the pros and cons of the Naish Hover Crossover 120 vs 150 for an 85kg rider?

I'm guessing the larger size will make it easier to catch waves, but is it much harder to pump and manoeuvre when you are on the foil?

Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

I have gone from JP Australia Wood Edition 7'0" x 28" to the Pro 6'8" x 26". The smaller board is noticeably lighter and more lively, I found it that it helped me to catch waves I could not catch with the bigger heavier board. There was enough to tip me over and get on the waves.
I would recommend a small board as you can paddle around on and when up on the foil you benefit from the smaller board.

That's my experience on another brand

Thanks for your thoughts. Interesting that it is easier to catch waves with a smaller board.

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anders884 said..

gybeski said..
Just wondering what are the pros and cons of the Naish Hover Crossover 120 vs 150 for an 85kg rider?

I'm guessing the larger size will make it easier to catch waves, but is it much harder to pump and manoeuvre when you are on the foil?

Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

I have gone from JP Australia Wood Edition 7'0" x 28" to the Pro 6'8" x 26". The smaller board is noticeably lighter and more lively, I found it that it helped me to catch waves I could not catch with the bigger heavier board. There was enough to tip me over and get on the waves.
I would recommend a small board as you can paddle around on and when up on the foil you benefit from the smaller board.

That's my experience on another brand

What do you weigh Anders?

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Camarillo said..

anders884 said..

gybeski said..
Just wondering what are the pros and cons of the Naish Hover Crossover 120 vs 150 for an 85kg rider?

I'm guessing the larger size will make it easier to catch waves, but is it much harder to pump and manoeuvre when you are on the foil?

Appreciate your thoughts and comments.

I have gone from JP Australia Wood Edition 7'0" x 28" to the Pro 6'8" x 26". The smaller board is noticeably lighter and more lively, I found it that it helped me to catch waves I could not catch with the bigger heavier board. There was enough to tip me over and get on the waves.
I would recommend a small board as you can paddle around on and when up on the foil you benefit from the smaller board.

That's my experience on another brand

What do you weigh Anders?

I am just below 80 Kg and the JP Foil boards are 115L and 95L

With board size there is a few different contributing factors.

Ideally we want to ride the smallest lightest board possible in most cases. HOWEVER! Remember you still need to be able to balance and paddle it. I don't mind going a little longer to get some more paddle speed. But this said going too big will feel a little heavy once you've got it all dialed. BUT, this heavy feeling can be equalled out by setting up your foil correctly. Mount position and rear wing angle can do some amazing things to make a big board feel small. The Hover 120 (crossover) does not feel big when I am riding it, it's loose, fast, well balanced and great for a long paddle back out after a killer ride.

Ride safe,

JB

Thanks JB. Hey what are the bare weights of the 120 and 150 2019 models (when new)?

I also own a Crossover board, but not the Naish.
It's a custom made from Mojo (Europe based), custom because all serial boards be it Naish, Fanatic, JP, Starboard etc. lack one of the features i wanted in my crossover board -- a deeptuttle box at the rear, for using a freeride/freerace foil on flatwater.

With the boards from the big brands you just have the US-foiltracks mounted more forward, accordingly straps and masttrack, allowing only more sup/surforiented foils with this trimm.
It's fun to ride these setups, especially if it's a little wavy on the water.

But on pure flatwater i prefer riding a freerace foil, foil and straps at the back, trimmed like a classic windsurf/windfoilboard.
This feature was only possible with a custom board.

If you want a foil only board i would look for a more dedicated and more compact foilboard. The boards above have the benefit of also being useable for classic supsurfing or windsuping. And you only have to carry one board for all these disciplines.

Negative is the weight gain by having all the boxes and inserts in one board.

Alex

My boards so far, both 7'11 x 30, 130 liters for my 90 kg