Impact of the board Size once on a Foil

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Filow
Filow
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4 Aug 2020 5:19pm
Hi,
mainly in Wingdingin, what is the impact of the board wide on the foil.
i am
Riding a 5.0 // 66cm wide board. I like it but I think I need something easier to turn front side cause as the board is wide turning frontside is not that easy.
Any experience to share regarding the Wide of the board ?
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
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NSW, 1559 posts
4 Aug 2020 8:45pm
That is a small SUP.

I am riding a 180cm long, 73cm wide board without any issues turning either way.

Just sounds like you need more time on the board.
DWF
DWF
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DWF DWF
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4 Aug 2020 6:52pm
The negative I noticed winging with a SUP, (66cm is SUP width) is the rails hitting when going upwind hard, and the corners of the tail kissing the water in turns, and really bad doing this in waves. Don't need square wide tails on a wing board.

omg
omg
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omg omg
292 posts
4 Aug 2020 7:05pm
Filow said..
Hi,
mainly in Wingdingin, what is the impact of the board wide on the foil.
i am
Riding a 5.0 // 66cm wide board. I like it but I think I need something easier to turn front side cause as the board is wide turning frontside is not that easy.
Any experience to share regarding the Wide of the board ?


And how long is your mast? That I think is the problem.
hilly
hilly
WA
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WA, 8120 posts
4 Aug 2020 7:28pm
DWF said..
The negative I noticed winging with a SUP, (66cm is SUP width) is the rails hitting when going upwind hard, and the corners of the tail kissing the water in turns, and really bad doing this in waves. Don't need square wide tails on a wing board.



Agree with this next wingding board will be narrower and a pin tail. Maybe like this.
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
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QLD, 3378 posts
5 Aug 2020 9:18am
Filow said..
Hi,
mainly in Wingdingin, what is the impact of the board wide on the foil.
i am
Riding a 5.0 // 66cm wide board. I like it but I think I need something easier to turn front side cause as the board is wide turning frontside is not that easy.
Any experience to share regarding the Wide of the board ?


You are already on quite a small board but if you feel comfortable then taking some nose and tail width off wont hurt. Full difference will be minimal but it might make a few small areas easier. We have been playing with a bunch of new ideas and if we pull the tail in we like to do it with hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size
hilly
hilly
WA
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WA, 8120 posts
5 Aug 2020 8:21am
paul.j said.. hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size


Interesting idea





paul.j
paul.j
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5 Aug 2020 10:29am
hilly said..


paul.j said.. hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size




Interesting idea








I am riding a SUP version of this at the moment that i am testing and the difference between this and my normal wider nose and tail sup is pretty small. It's a little harder to stand around on, maybe can pump it a touch better but not 100% sure yet. I can pump both up about the same when in DW.
So really pulling the nose and tail in might make small differences but its not a game changer.


hilly
hilly
WA
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WA, 8120 posts
5 Aug 2020 10:06am
paul.j said..
hilly said..


paul.j said.. hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size




Interesting idea








I am riding a SUP version of this at the moment that i am testing and the difference between this and my normal wider nose and tail sup is pretty small. It's a little harder to stand around on, maybe can pump it a touch better but not 100% sure yet. I can pump both up about the same when in DW.
So really pulling the nose and tail in might make small differences but its not a game changer.




Thanks good to know
kobo
kobo
NSW
1111 posts
NSW, 1111 posts
5 Aug 2020 3:28pm
paul.j said..

hilly said..



paul.j said.. hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size





Interesting idea









I am riding a SUP version of this at the moment that i am testing and the difference between this and my normal wider nose and tail sup is pretty small. It's a little harder to stand around on, maybe can pump it a touch better but not 100% sure yet. I can pump both up about the same when in DW.
So really pulling the nose and tail in might make small differences but its not a game changer.



Paul, what foils are you riding atm
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
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QLD, 3378 posts
5 Aug 2020 4:08pm
kobo said..

paul.j said..


hilly said..




paul.j said.. hips more than just making a full curve to a pin tail as using the hips lets us keep the middle wide point a little longer and helps keep the board as stable as possible for its size.
Wide nose and wide tail is easier for most things and can make life easy but like SUP surfing we will all push the limits of what we can do and then go back up a size






Interesting idea










I am riding a SUP version of this at the moment that i am testing and the difference between this and my normal wider nose and tail sup is pretty small. It's a little harder to stand around on, maybe can pump it a touch better but not 100% sure yet. I can pump both up about the same when in DW.
So really pulling the nose and tail in might make small differences but its not a game changer.



Paul, what foils are you riding atm


Haha good question, can't really say to much just yet but they are blood good and been a massive difference to anything else i have been on.
hilly
hilly
WA
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WA, 8120 posts
5 Aug 2020 7:13pm
Apparently they cost a lot too
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
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QLD, 3378 posts
5 Aug 2020 9:41pm
hilly said..
Apparently they cost a lot too


Holy **** I agree this cost us a fortune and until recently I really thought I might have just made the most expensive foils ever for myself and Benny to use but with some skillful negotiations and pure good looks the price will be no more than what is already on the carbon market and maybe even cheaper than some.

Definitely not getting made in the same place as any other foil on the market and not in China which has to be a bonus for me and the people who will hopefully buy it??

Fun times ahead!
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
5 Aug 2020 9:08pm
paul.j said..

hilly said..
Apparently they cost a lot too



Holy **** I agree this cost us a fortune and until recently I really thought I might have just made the most expensive foils ever for myself and Benny to use but with some skillful negotiations and pure good looks the price will be no more than what is already on the carbon market and maybe even cheaper than some.

Definitely not getting made in the same place as any other foil on the market and not in China which has to be a bonus for me and the people who will hopefully buy it??

Fun times ahead!


Happy to demo one
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