Do surf foilers adjust their foil position depending on wave size?

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thedoor
thedoor
2500 posts
2500 posts
22 Feb 2022 12:28am
My experience windfoiling is that each foil has a track position that is ideal, depending on where I put my mast and foot straps. When wind picks up I change the sail but I do not move the foil position.

Is this the case for surf foiling? or are people moving their foil fore/aft in bigger surf?
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler
505 posts
505 posts
22 Feb 2022 12:45am
thedoor said..
My experience windfoiling is that each foil has a track position that is ideal, depending on where I put my mast and foot straps. When wind picks up I change the sail but I do not move the foil position.

Is this the case for surf foiling? or are people moving their foil fore/aft in bigger surf?


Smaller I usually put my foil far forward, bigger waves more at the back.
Hdip
Hdip
472 posts
472 posts
22 Feb 2022 1:07am
I sometimes move my mast an 1/8th of an inch towards the tail when it's overhead on the face. I usually regret doing that though. I am strapless on a 4'4" so usually I can just adjust my feet to fix that issue and it's easier than dealing with a new mast position.

I do move mast position based on the front wing I'm riding though. Each front wing has it's own sweet spot.
Piros
Piros
QLD
7296 posts
QLD, 7296 posts
22 Feb 2022 4:19am
Mast position stays the same I'm more likely to change the tails to smaller for larger waves or higher speeds.
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greg87foil
greg87foil
145 posts
145 posts
22 Feb 2022 5:16am
Keep the same. Adjust front foil/tail wing.
eppo
eppo
WA
9789 posts
WA, 9789 posts
22 Feb 2022 6:47am
If too lazy might drop it back, but normally just change front wing and leave as is.
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
22 Feb 2022 6:53am
If the balance is right leave it be. I only confuse myself (Which is not hard) if I move the mast around.
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
23 Feb 2022 3:37am
I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.
kobo
kobo
NSW
1111 posts
NSW, 1111 posts
23 Feb 2022 9:42am
PeterP said..
I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.


How is you DW journey going ? I remember you starting the process and curious what you have learned and where you're up to mate.
PeterP
PeterP
873 posts
873 posts
23 Feb 2022 1:31pm
kobo said..

PeterP said..
I also move my mast back a fraction when waves get a little bigger. When waves are small I try and optimize the weight distribution (SUP) so that it is optimal for pumping, when it's bigger I find moving the mast back gives me slightly more time to sort out my feet before the foil lifts during take-off. I only move it about 2cm.

On my wing board I rarely move it once I've found the optimal trim but board is smaller so there is less swing-weight.



How is you DW journey going ? I remember you starting the process and curious what you have learned and where you're up to mate.


Haha - don't want to hijack thread, but in short - a lot of wing down-winging which is just easier than with a paddle. Have managed 10km without touching handles, as my best run to date, and the extended time on bumps, has motivated me to order a dwd specific SUP board. I still can't keep a Foil-SUP going the entire run. TOW (Time on Water), body-weight and gear is everything. Running out of years, so it's now or never.
kobo
kobo
NSW
1111 posts
NSW, 1111 posts
23 Feb 2022 5:27pm
Mate sounds like good progression !
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