What kind of conditions and options are best for DW foiling?
I was thinking of using a boat to tow onto swells to begin with at sea and learn to stay with them as long as I can, then move onto a wingding and paddle after that.
Is it best to go in strong wind conditions with or without ground swell?
Do you need a minimum sea size ?
Is wind swell better than ground swell to ride ?
See the videos of the DW posted and it doesn't seem like there is much wind ?
Appreciate thoughts on this.

Great idea, seen a few guys do this looks fun. More wind to start with and small swell. Work up from there. Better you are you can link with less wind and more swell. Large swells in open ocean are so fast.

It's not just catching the first wave, staying on foil and learning how to read the water. lots of skill, trial and error.

Best bet, is to always have a power source with you as you learn. So you can get back on foil every time you screw up. So the wing ding is going to be a great learning tool.

I'm using my wing ding to learn. I try to ride as long as possible holding the nose handle. When I drop off foil, I power the wing ding back up.

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kobo said..
What kind of conditions and options are best for DW foiling?
I was thinking of using a boat to tow onto swells to begin with at sea and learn to stay with them as long as I can, then move onto a wingding and paddle after that.
Is it best to go in strong wind conditions with or without ground swell?
Do you need a minimum sea size ?
Is wind swell better than ground swell to ride ?
See the videos of the DW posted and it doesn't seem like there is much wind ?
Appreciate thoughts on this.

I would say you need to be super comfortable foiling wave, good at pumping.
If you can practice on a outside wave that runs into deep water with some bumps that would be easier, you need to be able to fly for at least 1 to 3 minutes before going on classic dw run.
If you can find a short dw run that is better to start.

You need to avoid tricky conditions such as backwash, side wind, cross swell, etc...

I think between 20/30 nd with nice, lined up wind swell is what you need.

Be careful, on video it always seems to be lighter than it is, you need good dw condition.

Dw foiling can very frustrating when you begin, but it is so good when you finally gets it.


For exemple me when I have nobody to go with, I have a short 1km run that I can do mutilple times by walking back out and launching from the pier.

www.instagram.com/p/B7iCVWkoJxT/

I the vid you can see two friends, beginner dw foiling, those two are some of the best sup paddler in Europe. They struggle right now but they will do it.

Awesome! Thanks for replies everyone, very helpful and informative.
looks like another learning curve coming up, I have managed to stay on foil for over 3 minutes with pumping so hopefully I have enough skills to start learning DW.
Going to try on my Armstrong 1550 as that's my biggest wing atm.
Cheers Kobo

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kobo said..
Awesome! Thanks for replies everyone, very helpful and informative.
looks like another learning curve coming up, I have managed to stay on foil for over 3 minutes with pumping so hopefully I have enough skills to start learning DW.
Going to try on my Armstrong 1550 as that's my biggest wing atm.
Cheers Kobo

1550 might be a liitle small except if it is really good with nice bumps but still. A 1550 foil is the second or even third step of the learning progress.

Hi Kobo

Get the biggest possible wing you can get for your foil setup.

I found 18-23 Knots and a peaky wind swell is the easiest to get started in also ocean swells are moving fast and hard to paddle into.

Also expect to do a lot of paddling when you first start as it is so much harder than foil surfing but once you work it out you will love it!

The 2400 is the Armstrong DW foil.

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hilly said..
The 2400 is the Armstrong DW foil.

I would go for that for sure. The bigger the better.

Ok got to buy another wing maybe.... long or short fuse and big or small tail ?

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kobo said..
Ok got to buy another wing maybe.... long or short fuse and big or small tail ?

Just get the front wing first and go from there.

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kobo said..
Ok got to buy another wing maybe.... long or short fuse and big or small tail ?

Small tail makes it faster with less lift.

I've never done any down wind on anything but I'm trying to use the wing as a learning tool . Use it to get on foil catch a swell then drop it and ride the swell as long as I can , still learning but getting better at reading the ocean and getting longer rides .

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siny said..
I've never done any down wind on anything but I'm trying to use the wing as a learning tool . Use it to get on foil catch a swell then drop it and ride the swell as long as I can , still learning but getting better at reading the ocean and getting longer rides .

I've actually done a heap of down winding on SUP's, kites etc and a bit with the paddle and foil, but I have to say I had sooo much fun yesterday with the wing and foil.
Once you are on a bump just park the wing, glide and pump, linking bumps.
Engage the wing again when required and repeat.