I have been sup foiling for a while now but have also taken up winging was hoping to use one board for both that I can see if it's not going to happen as I use and 85 ltr to wing on and 130 litre to sup. I had a go at sup foiling on my wing board but the performance was outstanding the pump and Glide was awesome but was very hard to balance and also difficult to paddle onto the waves. So there goes my idea of getting a small sup. I don't want to make life harder. I think I will look at upgrading my sup board to 6 ft 5 around 120 to 130 L just a bit later construction. I am 88 kilos just wondering what other people are riding in the way of sup foil boards compared to their weight.

I've been riding a 6"6 112L SMIK for sup foiling. It's been great but have just ordered a new 5"10x29 at 100l for sup foiling. You'd be surprised how stable boards are with a foil attached. as long as you have some rail length they track ok for paddling

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I have been sup foiling for a while now but have also taken up winging was hoping to use one board for both that I can see if it's not going to happen as I use and 85 ltr to wing on and 130 litre to sup. I had a go at sup foiling on my wing board but the performance was outstanding the pump and Glide was awesome but was very hard to balance and also difficult to paddle onto the waves. So there goes my idea of getting a small sup. I don't want to make life harder. I think I will look at upgrading my sup board to 6 ft 5 around 120 to 130 L just a bit later construction. I am 88 kilos just wondering what other people are riding in the way of sup foil boards compared to their weight.

Having 2 boards is a PITA swapping mast back and forth. Totally first world problem I know. I leave my gear attached in the car. Have a 5 6 x 100l and 6 6 120l I am 105kg. I did not see amazing performance increases by going to the 5 6 for ding. Yes, it is better, but the knee starts, smaller board to balance on in lulls and paddle home with damaged wing outweigh the benefits. My 6 6 is ultra-light, lighter than the 5 6, which makes an enormous difference IMO.

I am looking at something around 6ft, exceptionally light and still 120l+ for both. But I want to demo it so will have to wait a while

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I have been sup foiling for a while now but have also taken up winging was hoping to use one board for both that I can see if it's not going to happen as I use and 85 ltr to wing on and 130 litre to sup. I had a go at sup foiling on my wing board but the performance was outstanding the pump and Glide was awesome but was very hard to balance and also difficult to paddle onto the waves. So there goes my idea of getting a small sup. I don't want to make life harder. I think I will look at upgrading my sup board to 6 ft 5 around 120 to 130 L just a bit later construction. I am 88 kilos just wondering what other people are riding in the way of sup foil boards compared to their weight.

I SUP foil on my wind wing board every day and love it. I use the 5ft x 26 x 90L but I would say maybe the 5'4 x 27.5 x 110L would be about perfect. Very stable for their size and really about the only real issue of going so short is if you have a long paddle to offshore reefs as 5ft boards never really paddle that fast. I run two boards these days but a little different combo as I have my wing ding board that I also SUP surf on and then I have a DW paddle foil board that is super easy to paddle up onto the foil. I could just use my DW board for it all but I love the small ding board for on the wave and the wind wing and really only need the extra bit of length when chasing ocean bumps with my paddle.
www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com/shop/wind-wing-boards

85L for you at 88kg would be crazy tough to paddle around as a SUP board IMO. Low volume boards just under bodyweight for either SUP or winging don't make sense to me as it just seems like a tough way to do things.

Jacko those boards look really good. I have one that looks very similar and find the curve in the outline makes it yaw when paddling. Thinking my next board will be squarer like below pics. After straighter rails for faster paddling. But I want to try one first may make fart all difference, none over here that are squarish apart from a Fanatic I suppose.

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KAOS69 said..
I have been sup foiling for a while now but have also taken up winging was hoping to use one board for both that I can see if it's not going to happen as I use and 85 ltr to wing on and 130 litre to sup. I had a go at sup foiling on my wing board but the performance was outstanding the pump and Glide was awesome but was very hard to balance and also difficult to paddle onto the waves. So there goes my idea of getting a small sup. I don't want to make life harder. I think I will look at upgrading my sup board to 6 ft 5 around 120 to 130 L just a bit later construction. I am 88 kilos just wondering what other people are riding in the way of sup foil boards compared to their weight.

67kg 5'5" armstrong sup 80 litre

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hilly said..
Jacko those boards look really good. I have one that looks very similar and find the curve in the outline makes it yaw when paddling. Thinking my next board will be squarer like below pics. After straighter rails for faster paddling. But I want to try one first may make fart all difference, none over here that are squarish apart from a Fanatic I suppose.

Yeah hard not to get some zigzagging with 5ft boards, just good J stroking fixes that issue as much as it can be fixed but really after riding really short SUP's for so long now I don't even find it an issue. Like most things in life and to get one benefit you might have to compromise somewhere else and it really comes down to what is more important.

Got a few wing boards heading to WA so you never know you might run into one around the place!!

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paul.j said..Got a few wing boards heading to WA so you never know you might run into one around the place!!

Seen a few of your sup boards over here they look good, not a fan of the sunken deck though. Wingding board looks the goods, very similar to my bumble bee. I am interested in a squarer design and see how that helps stability and paddle speed.

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KAOS69 said..
I have been sup foiling for a while now but have also taken up winging was hoping to use one board for both that I can see if it's not going to happen as I use and 85 ltr to wing on and 130 litre to sup. I had a go at sup foiling on my wing board but the performance was outstanding the pump and Glide was awesome but was very hard to balance and also difficult to paddle onto the waves. So there goes my idea of getting a small sup. I don't want to make life harder. I think I will look at upgrading my sup board to 6 ft 5 around 120 to 130 L just a bit later construction. I am 88 kilos just wondering what other people are riding in the way of sup foil boards compared to their weight.

Having 2 boards is a PITA swapping mast back and forth. Totally first world problem I know. I leave my gear attached in the car. Have a 5 6 x 100l and 6 6 120l I am 105kg. I did not see amazing performance increases by going to the 5 6 for ding. Yes, it is better, but the knee starts, smaller board to balance on in lulls and paddle home with damaged wing outweigh the benefits. My 6 6 is ultra-light, lighter than the 5 6, which makes an enormous difference IMO.

I am looking at something around 6ft, exceptionally light and still 120l+ for both. But I want to demo it so will have to wait a while

I picked up a 6 ft konrad Glyder @ 118 L today. I'm hoping it will solve the same dilemma you have.

Will be curious to see how that rides MM.

I don't think there's such thing as a 1-board solution. A hybrid is the jack of all trades and master of none. It may work at everything but probably doesn't excel at any of them, compared to a dedicated board for that use. All benefits for one are trade-offs of the other, rob Peter to pay Paul, etc.

The early wing boards were SUP foils, but we're starting to see the designs diverge as people figure out what works...yay, need another board!

I am planning a 3 board quiver:

Surf foil: 4.6x20x4.25, 40ish L...easy paddler for medium-old medium-heavy. (75kg)

SUP foil: 6.4x29x5.25 115ish L....slightly downsizing my tried n true 6.10. I don't sup foil much any more, so this is for when waves are tiny or the rides are super long, too much for prone paddling. It is also for wing foil on the light days, when you want something easy.

Wing foil: 5.4x26x5 90ish L ... this will be an upsize of my 5' sky copy....which at 70L is doable but just too much work in anything other than cranking winds. I wish I was ripping hard enough to actually notice the 4" extra swing weight ... but I am not and suspect I won't.

And then kitefoil board, kite surfboard, shortboard, longboard, sup, yadda yadda, got to build a double garage if this board building habit continues.

TRUE.
Most people start out thinking ONE is all that is needed.
Then they progress and start to figure it out.

I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

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clayisland said..
I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

Agree with that.
Have you any pics of your board?

My downwind ( with a paddle) board has buckets of volume and still turns great. It's in the 130L range its 6"3 x 28.5

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Bender said..
My downwind ( with a paddle) board has buckets of volume and still turns great. It's in the 130L range its 6"3 x 28.5

Cool looking board.
Not corky at that thick? Looks narrow.

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Bender said..
My downwind ( with a paddle) board has buckets of volume and still turns great. It's in the 130L range its 6"3 x 28.5

Cool looking board.
Not corky at that thick? Looks narrow.

Its a bit tippy in a way like a dugout racing su so it has eccellent secondry stability. I dont notice it anymore. It tracks fine. It's designed for super early/easy lift off and it does that really well, especially on my new Axis HA1300 foil

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hilly said..

Bender said..
My downwind ( with a paddle) board has buckets of volume and still turns great. It's in the 130L range its 6"3 x 28.5

Cool looking board.
Not corky at that thick? Looks narrow.

Its a bit tippy in a way like a dugout racing su so it has eccellent secondry stability. I dont notice it anymore. It tracks fine. It's designed for super early/easy lift off and it does that really well, especially on my new Axis HA1300 foil

Is it dugout? cannot see the top.

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clayisland said..
I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

Agree with that.
Have you any pics of your board?

www.facebook.com/ClayIsland/photos/10159057517484668

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clayisland said..

hilly said..

clayisland said..
I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

Agree with that.
Have you any pics of your board?

www.facebook.com/ClayIsland/photos/10159057517484668

looks great
is it a custom board?

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felix1111 said..

clayisland said..

hilly said..

clayisland said..
I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

Agree with that.
Have you any pics of your board?

www.facebook.com/ClayIsland/photos/10159057517484668

looks great
is it a custom board?

Jeff Clark had a batch of boards made in this shape. He is continually refining.

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clayisland said..

felix1111 said..

clayisland said..

hilly said..

clayisland said..
I'm 90kg and been sup foiling on 150L, that's up from what I had been riding the previous few years. Volume distribution on this board reduces swing weight and I still have the waterline to paddle into overhead waves. A 7' that flies like a 6'6". I've pretty much given up on really short sups, if I want a tiny board seems more sensible to go prone and pump instead of paddle.

Agree with that.
Have you any pics of your board?

www.facebook.com/ClayIsland/photos/10159057517484668

looks great
is it a custom board?

Jeff Clark had a batch of boards made in this shape. He is continually refining.

great