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shaggybaxter said..
A picture Sam of what the guys are talking about.
You use the car and track still to anchor the low friction ring. Just tie a short strop around the ring (snug so the ring doesn't fall out) and tie it to the car at about the right height .
Use you eye to roughly set the length of the strop, anything will be better than having the sheet go down to the car itself.

Is there a preferred knot to tie around these low friction rings? And do they come in like a normal thimble shape(easier to splice??) or just the ring?
cheers

OK, all good. As a Pittwater sailor I'm not out in bad weather or big blows so putting one turn on
the winch is not a problem, however, I thought it was mandatory to put three turns on, so, I've
just learned something. Putting only one turn on I'm sure will solve the problem. Thanks for
putting up with me.

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samsturdy said..
OK, all good. As a Pittwater sailor I'm not out in bad weather or big blows so putting one turn on
the winch is not a problem, however, I thought it was mandatory to put three turns on, so, I've
just learned something. Putting only one turn on I'm sure will solve the problem. Thanks for e
putting up with me.

Hi Sam

It will be interesting to see if one turn will hold or slip on your winches when beating

With my1984 winches and new sheets if I don't have 3 turns on when I crank them on hard the sheets will slip and then one wrap around the base of the horn cleat it will hold in place and make it quick to release if needed

Luckily with mine I can normally pull 3 turns through by hand without having a override occur

Regards Don

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BlueMoon said..

shaggybaxter said..
A picture Sam of what the guys are talking about.
You use the car and track still to anchor the low friction ring. Just tie a short strop around the ring (snug so the ring doesn't fall out) and tie it to the car at about the right height .
Use you eye to roughly set the length of the strop, anything will be better than having the sheet go down to the car itself.

Is there a preferred knot to tie around these low friction rings? And do they come in like a normal thimble shape(easier to splice??) or just the ring?
cheers

HI Bluemoon,
You can get them with a soft shackle already fitted for lashing to something. On my boat I just have the ring, and the French just tie the strop through the centre of the ring. I have both my inner and outer barber hauler and the sheet all pass through mine, it doesn't ever seem to catch or foul, so I can't really fault the concept and its simplicity.
You can see the (inner) red bh is tied off around the outside of the ring (no special knot) and the blue outer ties through it. They then both pass back through the ring for a 2:1, so there is a fair bit of rope and it all works fine.
We even have the staysail sheets running through there when we have it up, you dont need to bother removing the headsail sheets or anything. A multi-purpose block!

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Donk107 said..

samsturdy said..
OK, all good. As a Pittwater sailor I'm not out in bad weather or big blows so putting one turn on
the winch is not a problem, however, I thought it was mandatory to put three turns on, so, I've
just learned something. Putting only one turn on I'm sure will solve the problem. Thanks for e
putting up with me.

Hi Sam

It will be interesting to see if one turn will hold or slip on your winches when beating

With my1984 winches and new sheets if I don't have 3 turns on when I crank them on hard the sheets will slip and then one wrap around the base of the horn cleat it will hold in place and make it quick to release if needed

Luckily with mine I can normally pull 3 turns through by hand without having a override occur

Regards Don

Thanks Donk. I'm sure one turn will not hold so I'll have to put on another two turns once I've hauled the
sail in. Not a problem as I already have to unwind everything and rewind it anyway.

Hi Sam, here is an interesting video showing a couple tacking their boat, its from a sailing school. I dont go for his "cookie" handling of how to pick up a jib sheet, but he shows how to start with one turn to get most of the slack in, then adding turns as the load increases.

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morningsun said..
Hi Sam, here is an interesting video showing a couple tacking their boat, its from a sailing school. I dont go for his "cookie" handling of how to pick up a jib sheet, but he shows how to start with one turn to get most of the slack in, then adding turns as the load increases.

It is an interesting video but the racer in me would be frustrated by such a slow tack

Regards Don

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samsturdy said..

Donk107 said..

samsturdy said..
OK, all good. As a Pittwater sailor I'm not out in bad weather or big blows so putting one turn on
the winch is not a problem, however, I thought it was mandatory to put three turns on, so, I've
just learned something. Putting only one turn on I'm sure will solve the problem. Thanks for e
putting up with me.

Hi Sam

It will be interesting to see if one turn will hold or slip on your winches when beating

With my1984 winches and new sheets if I don't have 3 turns on when I crank them on hard the sheets will slip and then one wrap around the base of the horn cleat it will hold in place and make it quick to release if needed

Luckily with mine I can normally pull 3 turns through by hand without having a override occur

Regards Don

Thanks Donk. I'm sure one turn will not hold so I'll have to put on another two turns once I've hauled the
sail in. Not a problem as I already have to unwind everything and rewind it anyway.

thats the go Sam .... quickly hand over hand with one turn , until a little bit of pressure in it , then flip two more turns on and winch handle goes in to finish it off .....

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Donk107 said..

morningsun said..
Hi Sam, here is an interesting video showing a couple tacking their boat, its from a sailing school. I dont go for his "cookie" handling of how to pick up a jib sheet, but he shows how to start with one turn to get most of the slack in, then adding turns as the load increases.

It is an interesting video but the racer in me would be frustrated by such a slow tack

Regards Don

i don't like the way the guy handles the new working sheet with two hands when loading extra turns on the winch, as it increases the risk of making a mistake and getting your fingers trapped under the line (plus you no longer have a hand free). with a bit of practice you should be able to load the line on with one hand...

Looks ok ! The video is for learners don't forget and Capt. Tom is getting on in years albeit he has a load of credentials.