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Where did you go on your sailing boat today?

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Created by DrRog > 9 months ago, 4 Oct 2014
shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
2 Mar 2019 8:02AM
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Thanks Gravy,
That was an awesome bit of video work, and what a gorgeous place to sail. I love seeing a top down view of the turning marks, a friend did this for the Etchells worlds and it was fascinating to see the leeway and different exit lines. Gotta love these drones.
Cheers!
SB

Gravy7
NSW, 242 posts
2 Mar 2019 12:36PM
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The fleet that night was 58 boats including 8 Etchells, 4 Solings, three 5.5 metres, three North Shore 27s and two Diamonds.

Plus a Wiiliam Fife 6 metre, a Flying Dutchman, one Couta Boat, the carvel sloop 'Struen Marie', a 24' Trailer Tri and a Seawind cat.

Oh, and we came 9th. Thanks for asking.

Ramona
NSW, 7653 posts
2 Mar 2019 5:38PM
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Not my boat but I had the pleasure of sailing on a Farr37 today. Stunning boat and this one is particularly well fitted out. Young couples first boat!

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
6 Mar 2019 2:17PM
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He proceeds to set it up the barber haulers at double the height I had (height means they come forward) for much more leach tension and minimal foot tension, and then sheeted on a lot more than I ever had before pronouncing himself satisfied. I look at the telltales and they're all hanging down, no movement at all.
???
I query him as to what/how/why (I'm a serial pest when it comes to asking questions) and he told me he was setting the head of the sail to be catching the wind and always drawing, so the barber haulers had to come forward a lot and the jib sheet came on a lot. I had so much ease on the jib chasing the telltales that the head was twisted off and not doing anything at all.
I took it all in, then snuck below and checked the polar performance. For this wind strength and angle I have really struggled to achieve better than 90%. With the new trim we were averaging 105%. Well, bugger me.
So the lesson for me was to keep the head of the jib working all the time, and ignore the telltales. This is one of those things that I am sure everyone would laugh at me for not knowing, but I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, and it's always good for a laugh amongst the crew that the skipper has been calling the wrong trim for ages!
So thanks for sharing Don, I always get a kick out of looking at other boats sailing!
SB


Sounds interesting - any chance of photos when you get the chance? Thanks in advance!

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
6 Mar 2019 2:46PM
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Hi Don, that spinnaker is off our old boat, recognised the colours, but the number gave it away, she was 5 when we sailed in JOG, Swanson 27 that we sold 10 years ago, owned for 35, the Pickers sails were original, then we went to Norths, so that's one old sail, but looks good.
derwentboats.com.au/derwent/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/swanson-27-great-sea-boats-many-upgrades/223011/





I thought it looked familiar, 20-something years ago I crewed on Quebrada, Holland 25. We had many a good race against Chindrina!

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
6 Mar 2019 2:35PM
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shaggybaxter said..



He proceeds to set it up the barber haulers at double the height I had (height means they come forward) for much more leach tension and minimal foot tension, and then sheeted on a lot more than I ever had before pronouncing himself satisfied. I look at the telltales and they're all hanging down, no movement at all.
???
I query him as to what/how/why (I'm a serial pest when it comes to asking questions) and he told me he was setting the head of the sail to be catching the wind and always drawing, so the barber haulers had to come forward a lot and the jib sheet came on a lot. I had so much ease on the jib chasing the telltales that the head was twisted off and not doing anything at all.
I took it all in, then snuck below and checked the polar performance. For this wind strength and angle I have really struggled to achieve better than 90%. With the new trim we were averaging 105%. Well, bugger me.
So the lesson for me was to keep the head of the jib working all the time, and ignore the telltales. This is one of those things that I am sure everyone would laugh at me for not knowing, but I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, and it's always good for a laugh amongst the crew that the skipper has been calling the wrong trim for ages!
So thanks for sharing Don, I always get a kick out of looking at other boats sailing!
SB



Sounds interesting - any chance of photos when you get the chance? Thanks in advance!


No probs All@Sea, next time I'm out I'll do an old and new trim photo

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
17 Mar 2019 8:00PM
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We competed in our clubs Lady Skippers race yesterday with my wife Sylvia on the helm and myself and our friend Rob as crew

We came home a creditable 3rd in a fleet of 6 boats and the Huon turned it on with Blue skies and a nice 10-12 knot breeze blowing

In the second photo showing the dodgy head sail we were midway through a tack

Regards Don




All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
19 Mar 2019 9:25PM
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Not today,but I've been meaning to post these for nearly a month now. Lake Pedder, SW Tas.

Strathgordon.

Ghosting toward the Serpentine Dam (next 7 photos)














More ghosting, about 2.5 knots - probably at least windspeed.

First night's mooring - no tide (and no charts, apart from google maps - and almost no phone reception).





Whoop de doo centre of shot.

Less than 1/10th of the lake in this shot.



(Occaisionally) sunsmart!



Finally gave up and motored!





Mooring night 2.



Sunrise day 3.

Steep.



Distance is as hard to judge in reality as in photos, nearest land maybe a few hundred meters, furthest a few ks?

Motorsailing - sail made about 0.5 knot difference.

Vast.

Mid lake.

Heading back into Strathgordon.

Done, about 3 hours back to Hobart.

There might just be something to this cruising thing!?

boty
QLD, 685 posts
21 Mar 2019 7:58AM
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dam now I have to build a trailable boat so I can do the same looks awesome

Futurecruiser
VIC, 119 posts
21 Mar 2019 11:31AM
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Great shots all@sea, grew up in Tassie but have never even seen Lake Peddar, looks like an amazing cruising spot. Hopefully not too many discover it!

All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
22 Mar 2019 6:10PM
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Great shots all@sea, grew up in Tassie but have never even seen Lake Peddar, looks like an amazing cruising spot. Hopefully not too many discover it!

Thanks Futurecruiser, it is an amazing place, and pretty east to access - but we saw a total of 4 people on the lake, all close to Strathgordon (3 kayakers and an SUP)... It's almost be nice to see another sail on the lake!

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
22 Mar 2019 6:59PM
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Hi all@sea

Great photo's of you guys on Lake Pedder

Tassie has been turning the weather on lately

Last weekend one of the other boats had a lady on board taking lots of photo's of the competing boats including HG02's old Driftwood

Regards Don




















All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
23 Mar 2019 11:17AM
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I can highly recommend rigging a reaching sheet. It frees up a crew for other trimming, and beer fetching! ;)

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
25 Mar 2019 11:31AM
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So we had the last Kingfisher night race for the year on Saturday night, about 25 boats, 34nm and a steady Northerly 14-15 knots of breeze.

This course was clockwise and roughly triangular. You start inside of Mud Island, a 2nm dig to the NW for a starboard rounding before hardening up to a 10nm beat, crossing the shipping channel and continuing north to take the Brisbane Roads mark to port, the idea being to focus all the boats crossing the channel into a single lane. From there its close hauled to the NW to the top of the Redcliffe Peninsula, then a 15nm beam reach out to Moreton Island, crossing the shipping channel again. After getting to the island and a starboard rounding, it's a deep 8nm run back to the bottom of Mud Island. Drop the kite, and harden up for a 2nm mad dash back to the finish line.



It's a great course for night racing as the fleet doesn't cross itself like you would in say a windward/leeward course. It's also a popular race for a lot of boats training for the Brisbane to Gladstone, as you have compulsory radio skeds, commercial shipping lanes and the majority of the race being at night for the middle of the fleet.
Below is a pic of a new boat in the fleet, a 2010 Humphries 54' called Active Again that looks like a ruggedized version of a TP52. She's fast, and will make a worthy competitor for our normal line honours boat Kerumba, a very well sailed Kerr 50. We're lucky in having a good cross section of boats ranging from 30-50' and the crews all know their boats, so we were looking forward to another tight, hard fought race.



The first leg was a shy reach, and we nailed a perfect ToD start at the pin end, then groans abound as a general recall is announced, half the fleet were over in the strong ebb tide pulling us North. The re-start was thankfully a carbon copy, crossing the pin seconds after the gun in clear air. I have a rule now, always start under headsail, even if the wind is behind the mast, it's way too easy for things to go wrong with a kite up with boats jockeying for position at a start line. So, after a few minutes to let the fleet settle and check the wind is still near 90 TWA, we unfurled the gennaker, the boat breaks onto the plane and we're sneaking over the top of the boats to leeward that started at the boat end of the line before they get a chance to luff us up. All good so far.

Then we lost a winch handle over the side. Bugger, we're down to one winch handle for the entire race with the third one having been broken and not replaced yet. It's only really an issue for the downwind legs, where you want a handle for the mainsheet and kite winches, but it makes the hoists a tad more difficult also. We'll just have to make do.
Arriving at the mark to cross the shipping channel, we unfurled the headsail and furled the genenaker away cleanly, before hardening up for the beat. I only wanted a short beat before tacking out to the East back into the shipping channel to take advantage of the ebbing tide. A glance over the shoulder put paid to that idea, an outbound cruise ship forcing us meekly into some short tacks outside the channel as they trundled by. The yachts made quite a picture scattering every which way to stay out of their way!

The beat up to the top mark found us turning in 5th or 6th, and I called for the gennaker for the long reach out to the islands. We hoisted cleanly and went to deploy when disaster struck. The furling line somehow managed to wrap itself around the kite as we unfurled, the result being the top half of the kite was completely unfurled as the bottom half trussed itself up like a roast chicken. I still don't know how it happened, but there was a good 30 wraps of the furling line around the bottom 10ft of the sail.
Oh no.
The foredeck crew spring into action, grabbing a boat hook they laboriously tried to slowly unwrap the furling line wrap by wrap as the top half of the sail tried its level best to flog itself to pieces. An interminable 20 mins went by as we slowly fell away from the course line, a call goes forward and the reply is bad news, over half the wraps still remained. The foredeck crew were exhausted, so I said a silent prayer and called for the pole to be retracted. This is not a good idea. As you retract the pole, the bobstay will naturally go slack, and with a flogging kite still connected on the pointy end, you're just asking for the 4" 2m long bit of carbon to tear itself in half at the deck clamp. We ran deep and released the pole, and mercy to the gods, it all worked perfectly. We got the kite on the deck and the foredeck crew collapse on the rail, looking like they'd just run a marathon. We point back to the Moreton Island mark, now upwind and sort out the mess, trying to catch the fleet, who the whole time would have had grandstand seats of us disappearing out of control into the distance!

The gods decided they'd had their fun and went to pick on someone else for a while, so by the time we turned at Moreton Island we were back in the hunt, turning in fourth place but with the fleet snapping at our heels to a gorgeous sunset. This is Dream right behind us, an Inglis 38 that is always sailed really well, just before the turning mark.



I checked the wind, a steady 12-4 knots, and looked around the horizon, it looked like a normal sea breeze that was lightening out. The wind was about 150TWA and easing, so I called for our big A2, a light air deep running kite, it was nice to have a race where you're not running dead square for once! We got a clean hoist and there's some urgency now in our set, you can hear the yelling and kites snapping taut behind us as the horde descend and round behind us. The boat's occasionally making ground in the flat water as the wind gusts past 14 and we break into a plane, then falling off as the wind lulls and the fleet surge back. There's no moon yet, and eyes strain in the darkness trying to see the trim, the occasional torch light appearing on the sail showing the nerves whenever another boat surges forward a length.

The run back was pretty uneventful until we neared Mud Island, when I see the silhouette of a Beneteau 47.7 ahead and to windward suddenly broach wildly. ???
It's been a steady breeze all evening with no hint of gusts, but the benny is head to wind, kite flogging, so we get ready just in case. We hit the invisible pressure line and the wind climbs straight up to 20 knots, which is the upper threshold for the big kite. It needs to come down, right now, or we'll blow it to pieces. I went to open my mouth when Dream, who was to leeward and on our beam appears to broach hard. I think I hear their kite come apart, flapping madly (it did).
A quick yell goes to the helm and we soak deep to ease the pressure, the wind bounces to a steady 25 knots and the boat just takes off, pegging 17 knots as it charges away, the big 200m2 kite now well over its wind range. The flat water meant the kite wasn't flogging and the boat speed was high which is probably what saved it, but we managed to get it down cleanly just in time for the turn under Mud Island for the 2nm charge to the finish. We crossed the finish line side by side with the Beneteau 47.7 who pipped us by a a bowpsrit length for a 4th on line honours, and the crew erupt, it was a race of problems that we had to manage, and we still finished respectably.

I'd like to give the original organisers of this series some credit, it is always fantastic racing ,with the night time format adding some spice to the team work, and the once a month formula means the crew can easily factor it in to their busy lives. A thanks always to the four organizing clubs and all the volunteers hard work, I'm already impatient for next years series to start....

Lazzz
NSW, 891 posts
25 Mar 2019 12:44PM
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Thanks for a great write up Shaggy - I really enjoy the detailed report & pics :)

benateau281
WA, 39 posts
25 Mar 2019 9:46PM
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boty
QLD, 685 posts
26 Mar 2019 11:51AM
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a couple of shots from pagan at the start of the kingfisher shaggy looked great coming past 10 miniutes after the start not enough windward work in it for us but a great night on the water to finish early with a nice shy kite right to the rounding mark off mud to pull back the other Qcyc boats








shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
27 Mar 2019 10:45AM
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Hi Boty,
There is some nice video from Mad Jack Racing on FB of Pagan mate, she looked very well mannered in a bit of slop!
How did Jack go on Invader go, any idea?

slammin
QLD, 998 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:43PM
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We had a very different exercise to normal. We took our TSer a Seaway 25 up to Tinaroo Dam in the Atherton Tablelands.

To get there involves The Kennedy Hwy to Kuranda, very steep gradient with hairpins, tight corners and slippery rainforest covered corners. It is notorious for boy racers and accidents so I took the easy option and left at sparrows fart on Sunday morning. The trip up was eneventful with lots of 2nd and 3rd gears. The only other 2 cars were polite and helpful.

Once up at the dam I met Jeff a fellow who lives on his Hartley and snowbirds up to Tinaroo and down to the Sunshine coast, he was a really nice helpful guy. He watched me rigged up and launch and was on hand should I of needed any help. I'm essentially a single hander and he was seemingly surprised to see how easy a big Tser can be setup. Thanks to TSP for their input over the years I was able to get the boat rigged and launched in 50min. Just in time for my wife and kids to turn up.

We had an easy sail across the bay to a lovely little bay with some old moorings where we had lunch and a swim. Afterward we had a nice broad reach back to where we launched. Along the way we watched the local dinghy race. The family bailed and I found Peter's ( a fellow online TSer) mooring and battened her down in anticipation of this weekend on board.

It was particularly exciting sailing as there are trees and stumps to navigate. The scenery is breathtaking and the dam is over the spillway. The dams deepest point we found was 25m which was quite a surprise as on the coast in Cairns we see 8 on avg.






shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:56PM
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slammin said..
We had a very different exercise to normal. We took our TSer a Seaway 25 up to Tinaroo Dam in the Atherton Tablelands.

To get there involves The Kennedy Hwy to Kuranda, very steep gradient with hairpins, tight corners and slippery rainforest covered corners. It is notorious for boy racers and accidents so I took the easy option and left at sparrows fart on Sunday morning. The trip up was eneventful with lots of 2nd and 3rd gears. The only other 2 cars were polite and helpful.

Once up at the dam I met Jeff a fellow who lives on his Hartley and snowbirds up to Tinaroo and down to the Sunshine coast, he was a really nice helpful guy. He watched me rigged up and launch and was on hand should I of needed any help. I'm essentially a single hander and he was seemingly surprised to see how easy a big Tser can be setup. Thanks to TSP for their input over the years I was able to get the boat rigged and launched in 50min. Just in time for my wife and kids to turn up.

We had an easy sail across the bay to a lovely little bay with some old moorings where we had lunch and a swim. Afterward we had a nice broad reach back to where we launched. Along the way we watched the local dinghy race. The family bailed and I found Peter's ( a fellow online TSer) mooring and battened her down in anticipation of this weekend on board.

It was particularly exciting sailing as there are trees and stumps to navigate. The scenery is breathtaking and the dam is over the spillway. The dams deepest point we found was 25m which was quite a surprise as on the coast in Cairns we see 8 on avg.














Thanks Slammin for the write up, and great pics ! How far across is it in nm?

I'm trying to imagine substituting the usual 'crab pot' calls with 'tree stump'

slammin
QLD, 998 posts
27 Mar 2019 10:20PM
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Thanks Shaggy.

It's only 1nm as the crow flies luckily it was all upwind so a few tacks, some for obstructions some for depth. Calls should've been for loggerdiles!

The weirdest part was no salt. I've sailed here and swum here while on my catamaran but to have the Seaway and trailer in fresh water just seemed weird, nice but different!

slammin
QLD, 998 posts
28 Mar 2019 6:38AM
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Couple of pics from Tinaroo got cut off.










boty
QLD, 685 posts
28 Mar 2019 8:08AM
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shaggybaxter said..
Hi Boty,
There is some nice video from Mad Jack Racing on FB of Pagan mate, she looked very well mannered in a bit of slop!
How did Jack go on Invader go, any idea?


he finished about 5 mins in front of us after putting the mast in the water just off mud with the kite up .we had him on the slip the previous week so he was very quick through the water but lacked weight in the reaching with only jack and 3 skinny guys on the rail they really seem to be getting the hang of her and have a very good crew for Gladstone this year so hope they do well

troubadour
NSW, 328 posts
29 Mar 2019 7:50AM
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A few pics of a typical day on Sydney Harbour on mid week days off. Usually end up somewhere quiet for a swim (skinnydip) a couple of bevvies and sail home.












boty
QLD, 685 posts
29 Mar 2019 4:37PM
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love the foggy photo don't see much of that here in Brisbane

troubadour
NSW, 328 posts
29 Mar 2019 6:43PM
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Yes a big sea fog rolled in a few months back. The kids in the Elliot off the Port bow were freaking out. I had to convince them to stay with me. They didn't have a clue where they were.




slammin
QLD, 998 posts
29 Mar 2019 10:15PM
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Yep I've been through a few pea soupers in the harbour, brings back memories, a 14ft YW day boat. No compass no breeze. Solution was to sing at the top of our lungs, the Coulda Been Champions ABC sports/discussion show reason d'etre, Magic Moments.
WE didn't hit a thing and nothing hit us!!

cazou34
NSW, 146 posts
3 Apr 2019 4:23PM
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Not today but two days ago,
After having spent the summer with the triton on the hard at huskisson boatyard for a complete refit, we finally sailed it back to port hacking in two days, stopping in wollongong for the night. I am trying to make a little video to share with the family and anybody who would be interested to watch, but first I have to learn how to use the vid editing software... just a really short clip in copy. The trip from point perp to gerringong/kiama was rather uncomfortable due to the strong offshore wind and choppy sea that made us both sick in no time but once closer to the coast passing kiama it was a pleasant trip with everything you could hope for, good speed, dolphins, sunburns, and even caught a bonito (probably the smallest bonito ever caught though).



Thks to everybody here who helped us by giving good advices about painting (for the hull top and bottom, deck and spars), windows, sealants, sails, plumbing and others.... I learned a lot on this forum. Next on the to do list is to build a simple arch for the solar panel.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2587 posts
18 May 2019 10:20PM
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The Caniapa Cup is on this weekend where we sail down to the southern end of Moreton bay on the Saturday to a club anchorage on Russell Island where we overnight. The next day (with very heavy heads), we race back to Manly.
Just wanted to give Boty a big wrap after taking IRC overall for the Saturday race, hard earned after 0-17 knots with shifts and lulls everywhere.
Just goes to show how a 60 year old Seabird can still cut the mustard amongst some IRC weapons.
We managed to run aground, even though the chart showed a gentle bottom from 6-8 mtrs, nowhere near a shoreline. I've saved that spot for future reference :)

Onya Boty!
SB
Pic is just after park up at Canaipa, it's a really lovely spot.




boty
QLD, 685 posts
21 May 2019 1:56PM
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thanks shaggy we had a great time and really appreciated the tow on your stern wave as you streaked past at warp speed with a lady on the helm in her pj s WAY cool you can just make out your blue and white asso disappearing into the distance










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