Anyone know much about it on boats, a cruiser that lives in the water?

A respray would be upwards of $10k, not sure roll and tip could give the smooth finish we want (from what I've seen at boat show stands). Initial enquiries suggest wrapping could be 1/3 the cost of respray with life of 3-5yrs?

Are you talking about using wrapping for the stripes or the whole boat??

I just pulled the stick on stripes off my boat. It is a diabolical job to do, the worst part being getting the residue sticker glue off. Petrol and a razor scraper were the only things that got it right.

Painting a yacht is an expensive exercise but $10,000 is over the top. Talk to some other people.

Paint can be repaired and over coated and buffed up like new. Not so with vinyl stick ons.

I think a quality paint job regularly maintained should be good for 10 years or more.

Mine has been rolled and tipped looks as good as any spray job might depend on how skillful the painter is . Mine was done by shipwright.

I did all the prep and got a shipwright to do the final 2 coats with international perfection, rolled and tipped still looks great!! 6 hours at $75 is well worth it. Its a real art over large areas like the topsides. I did the top coats on the hatches and other small areas but if you are going spend all that money on paint and all that time preparing its worth paying a skilled operator to do the final coat on the topsides.

Vynal wrapping is just coming into the larger boat market. Seen a Cat at the boat works in qld getting her hulls done. I'm intrested to get a quote from the local sign writer.

Can you apply wrap to below the waterline as a alternative to anti fouling paint and remove and reapply when needed

Regards Don

Must be a reasonable cost to vynal wrap a boat as I've heard that when you get tired
of the colour you just re wrap it in a different colour. Mind you it would look an awful
mess if you got creases in it.

The process is quite easy, it's the in thing for all the hardcore fishermen matching there colourful shirts!

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cisco said..
Are you talking about using wrapping for the stripes or the whole boat??

I just pulled the stick on stripes off my boat. It is a diabolical job to do, the worst part being getting the residue sticker glue off. Petrol and a razor scraper were the only things that got it right.

Painting a yacht is an expensive exercise but $10,000 is over the top. Talk to some other people.

Paint can be repaired and over coated and buffed up like new. Not so with vinyl stick ons.

I think a quality paint job regularly maintained should be good for 10 years or more.

I use vinyl in my work every day. Once it's been on a while it is hard to get off, but you can get proprietary removers from the vinyl suppliers. If you can't get the remover, use a heat gun to soften the vinyl and the glue. (same goes for old window tint film as well) Whatever glue residue is left, use either metho or wax and grease remover. Petrol is a little dangerous, but works if it's all you've got.

That being said the wrapping film has some different characteristics to vinyl cut lettering type film.

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Donk107 said..
Can you apply wrap to below the waterline as a alternative to anti fouling paint and remove and reapply when needed

Regards Don

According to the manufacturers, some can be used under the waterline, but it's going to be more expensive to remove and replace each time, than it is to have an antifoul job done. Topsides however, can last up to 10 years with a gloss laminated over the colour.

I've purposely left out brand names, because there are a few to choose from and whilst I don't wrap cars per se, I do use the vinyl film for general signage and vehicle graphics every day. It's up to you to do your own research and see what works for you.

Another method of shining up your boat may be one of the new gloss applications I've seen used. A friend had his Hammond Ski boat done and it's worked a treat. Google marine coatings. I'm sure you'll find something useful.

In regards to getting sticker glue off, eucalyptus oil is the best stuff to use.

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samsturdy said..
In regards to getting sticker glue off, eucalyptus oil is the best stuff to use.

That's true Sam, but then you have to get the eucalyptus oil off in order to either paint, or use vinyl adhesive film. Hence using metho or wax and grease remover does the same thing, but prepares the surface for new work at the same time.

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MichaelR said..

samsturdy said..
In regards to getting sticker glue off, eucalyptus oil is the best stuff to use.

That's true Sam, but then you have to get the eucalyptus oil off in order to either paint, or use vinyl adhesive film. Hence using metho or wax and grease remover does the same thing, but prepares the surface for new work at the same time.

And that's true too Michael but people use so much elbow grease trying to get sticker glue
off I'm sure it would be easier to use eucalyptus oil and then metho to get the oil off....just a thought.

Had a quote some time ago for an acrylic urethane clearcoat system which was $8k. A bit pricey and I've heard quite differing opinions on this kind of stuff and was also concerned the gel coat was too far gone to be applying a clearcoat over the top.

Wrapping of smaller fishing boats etc is hugely popular. I think the VO60's from the last Volvo Ocean race were wrapped, they looked great. Been reading that wrapping popularity is filtering down from superyachts to racers to now cruisers.

Id be interested in your opinions on the film brands MichaelR. PM me if you like. I gather the 3M 1080 is good, but we want to get as close to existing burgundy colour of the boat as possible. Doesn't look like 3M has that.

astrolabesailing.com/2014/07/08/wildwoods-new-boat-wrap/

Have you got any further with this FreeRad??
Ive just remembered I met a bloke through a friend that works for a company that imports the stuff (not cheap n nasty). I can ask a rough cost for materials. Have you worked out how much you will need?

I looked into this last year and vinyl wrapping wasn't any cheaper than the average paint job. I would note that there was a wide range in quotes to paint the boat ranging from $7,000 to $20,000 so its worth getting several quotes.

Also, next time I would just roll the topsides as much of that was covered by non-slip anyway.

I was talking to a European boat maintenance specialist last year, he had just used a new paint from International (pre release) that just rolled without tipping, but maybe you don't want to wait for that.

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Donk107 said..
Can you apply wrap to below the waterline as a alternative to anti fouling paint and remove and reapply when needed

Regards Don

Theres a few youtube clips about it , but I don't see the point , maybe as a barrier protection but it doesn't seem to
prevent growth like antifouling , with the youtube clips it shows them cleaning the Hull in water , doesn't indicate how often
they have to hand clean.

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FreeRadical said..
Anyone know much about it on boats, a cruiser that lives in the water?

A respray would be upwards of $10k, not sure roll and tip could give the smooth finish we want (from what I've seen at boat show stands). Initial enquiries suggest wrapping could be 1/3 the cost of respray with life of 3-5yrs?

Hi ... is the hull the original gelcoat ?
surely a good cut and polish would do wonders ...



Cheers
Byrds

Wow Byrds that is amazing.

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blackswan said..

I was talking to a European boat maintenance specialist last year, he had just used a new paint from International (pre release) that just rolled without tipping, but maybe you don't want to wait for that.

That will be a game changer, I'll await with great interest.

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Byrdsworth said..

FreeRadical said..

Hi ... is the hull the original gelcoat ?
surely a good cut and polish would do wonders ...


Cheers
Byrds

Wow, it almost doesn't look like the same boat!

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Toph said..
Have you got any further with this FreeRad??
Ive just remembered I met a bloke through a friend that works for a company that imports the stuff (not cheap n nasty). I can ask a rough cost for materials. Have you worked out how much you will need?

Not a lot. Spoke with a friend of a friend who does a lot on small fishing boats, he didn't recommend it for a cruising yacht in and out of a pen all the time, reckons it will get hacked up too easily. Still researching.

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Byrdsworth said..

FreeRadical said..
Anyone know much about it on boats, a cruiser that lives in the water?

A respray would be upwards of $10k, not sure roll and tip could give the smooth finish we want (from what I've seen at boat show stands). Initial enquiries suggest wrapping could be 1/3 the cost of respray with life of 3-5yrs?

Hi ... is the hull the original gelcoat ?
surely a good cut and polish would do wonders ...

Cheers
Byrds

Used a 3M cutting compound that brings it up reasonably well, but it just doesn't last, within a few months it looks crap again. Might have a look at that Dulon product though.