Toe Rails

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
keithw
keithw
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
7 Jan 2013 9:24pm
Would there be any reasons why a boat wouldn't have a toe rail fitted?
I have seen a few raceing yachts without toe rails and always thought it wasn't a good idea but I recently looked at a Nantucket 42 which had no toe rails as well and I was wondering if there could be a underlying problem ??
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
7 Jan 2013 10:38pm
I put new full length toe rails on my cruiser....was worth all the 2k and all the drilling and tapping into the deck! I would say with race boats it would save a little weight and also makes the deck flush for sitting on the "rail" some race boats have toe rail forward of midships.

Some boats don't have stanchions and safety rails! WTF?
keithw
keithw
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
8 Jan 2013 5:43pm
Hi Matt,
Yes now I think of it I was crewing on a Farr 1104 and remember how uncomforable it was.
why did you need to replace your rails?
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
8 Jan 2013 6:18pm
I replaced the old jarrah rail with new anodised section can you see the difference?


keithw
keithw
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
8 Jan 2013 7:01pm
Sure can - You have done a great job!!
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
8 Jan 2013 10:29pm
nice job

i need to 'build in' new hatches like you have done, any tips??
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
8 Jan 2013 11:01pm
Yes I cast 12mm or 24mm epoxy coated marine ply down first using a level and strait edge and then released the ply from the cast and then glued and screwed the ply to the flush cast area of the deck.

Then it's just a matter fitting the hatch with screws and sika.

I can't find a good picture of the process but I have added one you maybe able to see.

The most important thing is that you cast the hatch rather than screw it to the curvature of the deck as this will obviously cause the hatch to leak.



Poodle
Poodle
WA
868 posts
WA, 868 posts
15 Jan 2013 9:13am
Hey Keith,

It's normal for racing yachts these days to NOT have tow rails to make it a bit comfier for the crew when hiking (the honourbale profession of rail meat!). Having just spent 4 1/2 days bashing from S2H for the first time, I'm very grateful our baby did not have them! You still need them in adventureland so your foredeckie has a small hope of staying on board.

But if you are not a serious raceer - Or just want to punish your crew then whack them in

Poods
FreeRadical
FreeRadical
WA
855 posts
WA, 855 posts
17 Jan 2013 7:16pm
Cat 1/2/3/4 regs are 25mm toe rails forward of the mast.
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
17 Jan 2013 10:59pm
Nice boat ! I hope to hell the lifelines are up to scratch as your feet won't be stopping you in a knockdown!
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
18 Jan 2013 8:21am
Just noticed in the above pics the lifelines are plastic coated.

Please get rid of them. There is a very good reason they are banned for any sort of racing and in my opinion should be banned full stop as they are dangerous!!

If ir is a pure cruising boat, look closely at using dyneema.
keithw
keithw
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
18 Jan 2013 12:48pm
southace said...
Nice boat ! I hope to hell the lifelines are up to scratch as your feet won't be stopping you in a knockdown!


It's also hard to board as well, I'm trying to work out a price so I can put in an offer I'm thinking 2-2.5k to purchase the rails.
MorningBird
MorningBird
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
18 Jan 2013 1:39pm
G'day Keith,
Are you thinking of getting that Cole 43? They are a big boat and a massive handful, with a crew let alone without.
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
18 Jan 2013 1:28pm
I have been using the plastic coated lines on both my yachts for the past 20 years....... Never had a problem with them other than some wear on the plasitic where it passes through the Staunton post.
keithw
keithw
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
18 Jan 2013 4:21pm
MorningBird said...
G'day Keith,
Are you thinking of getting that Cole 43? They are a big boat and a massive handful, with a crew let alone without.


Hi John,

No, But we had a look one weekend with a freind and I'm doing some home work for him.
Basically the boat needs a lot of work and is very over priced as the items listed in the inventory are either out of date, faulty or just not fitted ie holding tank advertised as fitted but there isn't one. Its setup is ok engine wouldn't start Then spat out oil blogs when it started up but then ran ok ( broker said the engine was serviced 2 day before we looked at it) stove, gas storage wells need replacing floor is very niosy ......

At the moment I don't have time for a boat, busy with my old work for a few months as it turns out!
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
18 Jan 2013 9:48pm
southace said...
I have been using the plastic coated lines on both my yachts for the past 20 years....... Never had a problem with them other than some wear on the plasitic where it passes through the Staunton post.


I don't really see a problem with plastic coated wire either.

The biggest problems with lifelines is when people use them as seats and use them as grabs to haul themselves out of a dinghy and onto the deck.[}:)]
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply

Return To Classic site 😭
Or... let us know if a problem, so we can tweak! 😅