Nothing to say but thought that someone should open a thread. Having difficulty identifying with any of the yachts although I noticed there is a Farr 1104 like one I sailed on a number of times and of course Piccolo won the race back in the day.

Tilting at Windmills is also a lovely well traveled older boat which seems to have been designed by Prof Joubert and of course it's always interesting to see how the little Currawongs go.

Also interesting to see how the masochists on the smaller newer Sunfasts go if the going gets rough.

I understand the sentiment. Here is an article on the 1104
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-22/sydney-hobart-yacht-race-townsville-mental-health-sailing/103256246

I will be tracking two boats more so than others.
Maritimo 54 . Just because the CYC last year refused her entry and she raced to Melb. to enter ,and get line honours in the 75th Melb. -Hobart . Love to see them stick it up the CYC as a Queenslander.
Bacardi . She is from my era of IOR in Vic.

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Kankama said..
I understand the sentiment. Here is an article on the 1104
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-22/sydney-hobart-yacht-race-townsville-mental-health-sailing/103256246

"Thomas said it had cost them about $150,000 to replace the fibreglass hull, rigging and sails."

I guess they just kept the flasher sounder!

Not sure how that is a cheap entry.

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Ramona said..

Kankama said..
I understand the sentiment. Here is an article on the 1104
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-22/sydney-hobart-yacht-race-townsville-mental-health-sailing/103256246

"Thomas said it had cost them about $150,000 to replace the fibreglass hull, rigging and sails."

I guess they just kept the flasher sounder!

Not sure how that is a cheap entry.

Yes I would be interested to know what he meant by replacing the fiberglass hull.
They were a klegecell sandwich with an internal grid frame holding the keel. I'm pretty sure the grid frame would have had to have been replaced and the one my friends father and family had built suffered from fast recurring severe osmosis that could never be cured.

Unlike other production yachts of the mid to late 70s and early eighties you don't see many around so I don't think they were built to last.

The NZ built 1104's were I believe solid "glass hulls. My mate has a Compass 33 Innovator which has a slightly modified 1104 hull which I believe is solid too.

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julesmoto said..

Ramona said..

Kankama said..
I understand the sentiment. Here is an article on the 1104
www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-22/sydney-hobart-yacht-race-townsville-mental-health-sailing/103256246

"Thomas said it had cost them about $150,000 to replace the fibreglass hull, rigging and sails."

I guess they just kept the flasher sounder!

Not sure how that is a cheap entry.

Yes I would be interested to know what he meant by replacing the fiberglass hull.
They were a klegecell sandwich with an internal grid frame holding the keel. I'm pretty sure the grid frame would have had to have been replaced and the one my friends father and family had built suffered from fast recurring severe osmosis that could never be cured.

Unlike other production yachts of the mid to late 70s and early eighties you don't see many around so I don't think they were built to last.

I'm not aware of any that have been written off, and I think some of the earliest ones are still racing. The first Aussie built one, Hot Prospect, is still a regular in racing around Hobart.

It's getting interesting-

www.smh.com.au/sport/sailing/sydney-to-hobart-under-way-amid-thunderstorm-concerns-20231226-p5etof.html

Skallywag already out with a broken prod.

Currawong listed as retired at 0900 AEDT on Wednesday and looks to be headed back to Sydney. Wonder what happened.

K.

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Kinora said..
Currawong listed as retired at 0900 AEDT on Wednesday and looks to be headed back to Sydney. Wonder what happened.

K.

Retired due to "electrical issues"

www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/

I have been monitoring the race HF schedule frequency 4483 directly.

Many yachts appear to have issues with their HF radio installations. Its incredible to see how loud many yachts are with a properly installed HF radio installations while others all within the same close proximity are almost unreadable. Its also amusing to the many yachts who have issues and who forget to hit the "tune" button to tune the auto antenna tuner.

JBW does not appear to hear very well. However Young Endeavour has a superb HF installation and obviously have a good antenna the way they hear stations and can clearly relay many stations that JBW cant hear. Chutzpah has also been assisting a lot and appears to have a much better HF installation than JBW.

Couldn't resist watching the last 35 minutes or so comprising the jibing duel between the supermaxis in fluky bugger all wind with match racing tactics applicable in the last 15 minutes or so.
Interesting to have a man 9/10 of the way up the very tall mast on Anandoo in order to pop the top batten by kicking it after each jibe.

Always kind of cool when someone comes from behind and a position which looks fairly hopeless. Adding in 3 or so lead changes in the last 15 minutes also makes it fun to watch.

What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

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What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

Looks like said cat may be at anchor, (no sign of wake)
Or if motoring or driffting Comanche has right of way.

Dought anyone could force a 100 footer to alter course,

From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

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Craig66 said..

jdfoils said..



What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

Looks like said cat may be at anchor, (no sign of wake)
Or if motoring or driffting Comanche has right of way.

Dought anyone could force a 100 footer to alter course,

You can't park there...

mast.tas.gov.au/notices/m441-23t-sydney-to-hobart-yacht-race-2023-prohibited-areas/

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jdfoils said..

Craig66 said..

jdfoils said..



What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

Looks like said cat may be at anchor, (no sign of wake)
Or if motoring or driffting Comanche has right of way.

Dought anyone could force a 100 footer to alter course,

You can't park there...

mast.tas.gov.au/notices/m441-23t-sydney-to-hobart-yacht-race-2023-prohibited-areas/

All good if they actually read that otherwise it's up to the policing vehicles to get rid of them in good time.

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garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

Time to put the bike helmet on and check the keel bolts :-).

Not so easy if they are under the motor!

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julesmoto said..

garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

Time to put the bike helmet on and check the keel bolts :-).

Not so easy if they are under the motor!

No keel bolts on a Currawong!

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jdfoils said..

Craig66 said..

jdfoils said..



What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

Looks like said cat may be at anchor, (no sign of wake)
Or if motoring or driffting Comanche has right of way.

Dought anyone could force a 100 footer to alter course,

You can't park there...

mast.tas.gov.au/notices/m441-23t-sydney-to-hobart-yacht-race-2023-prohibited-areas/

www.foxsports.com.au/sailing/take-your-sea-sick-tablets-potentially-dangerous-weather-predicted-for-sydney-to-hobart/news-story/c676609219b51f8faa66cd7119b15137?fbclid=IwAR3nXSkW-Pl2WAm1jTD2Bg7kQbcMvS0ciuJIxYemrQRInCA4n3OPShKLS2I


The full story .... well vison.

Looks more like they sailed into the spectator fleet and said cat reveresd to give them room

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Ramona said..

julesmoto said..

garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

Time to put the bike helmet on and check the keel bolts :-).

Not so easy if they are under the motor!

No keel bolts on a Currawong!

Oops sorry getting mixed up with S&S 34

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Craig66 said..

jdfoils said..

Craig66 said..

jdfoils said..



What is that knob in the cruiser cat doing in the restricted area forcing Comanche into bad air ?

Looks like said cat may be at anchor, (no sign of wake)
Or if motoring or driffting Comanche has right of way.

Dought anyone could force a 100 footer to alter course,

You can't park there...

mast.tas.gov.au/notices/m441-23t-sydney-to-hobart-yacht-race-2023-prohibited-areas/

www.foxsports.com.au/sailing/take-your-sea-sick-tablets-potentially-dangerous-weather-predicted-for-sydney-to-hobart/news-story/c676609219b51f8faa66cd7119b15137?fbclid=IwAR3nXSkW-Pl2WAm1jTD2Bg7kQbcMvS0ciuJIxYemrQRInCA4n3OPShKLS2I


The full story .... well vison.

Looks more like they sailed into the spectator fleet and said cat reveresd to give them room

A Sandy Bay resident.
Entitled much person.
Rules don't get in the way of their 15 seconds of ' fame '

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julesmoto said..

Ramona said..

julesmoto said..

garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

Time to put the bike helmet on and check the keel bolts :-).

Not so easy if they are under the motor!

No keel bolts on a Currawong!

Oops sorry getting mixed up with S&S 34

No bolts...... must be blu tac

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garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

The ladies probably made the right choice in retiring as they did not feel confident in their rig for some reason. The water in the boat would be unsettling simply because they could not find the source. The obvious choice would be the stern gland which is awkward to check in a seaway or the seacocks which are easier to check. There is a sump on top of the keel which holds a fair amount of water and checking whether it came from the stern would be difficult. I notice they still have the original front hatch which closes flush with the cabin top. This hatch has an internal gutter and small drains to the outside. The forward deck hatch is similar. If these drains get blocked or the 20 hours or so of punching the fresh southerly overwhelmed the drains capacity the water will run down the heads compartment bulkhead and down into the shower grate. It would drain through the limber hole and tube to the sump. This whole area would be damp and the chances of them seeing the water actually draining down there is small. The chain plates are bolted through the cabin sides and these also leak. These are 100mm wide SS strips that bolt onto the steel girder that goes under the mast. Water runs down these as well and ends up under the mast and then into the sump. It's easy to sit here and be the armchair sailor. For these ladies being tired and stressed coming off watch it's a different story!

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From livesaildie...


The finish of the 2023 Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race, the 78th edition, was nail-biting, to say the least. Everyone watching was on the edge of their gunwales as they witnessed Andoo Comanche and LawConnect go toe-toe and bow-to-bow in a dying breeze. It was one of the most intense finishes in race history and proves that watching sailing isn't boring, even with no wind!Just moments before the finish, LawConnect gybes over with Andoo Comanche following, then all of a sudden we see a cruising catamaran named "Let's Go" reversing away from Andoo Comanche in an attempt to get out of the way.Let's Go was in the wrong place - inside the exclusion zone, which is an area where spectators aren't allowed to ensure the yachts can finish the race safely without interference.
"Let's Go" Catamaran at the end of the Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race

From what we know, the skipper of Let's Go was spoken to by the police and was issued a fine for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.In this morning's Rolex Sydney Hobart morning broadcast, we learned that John Winning Jr (Herman), skipper of Andoo Comanche, was keen to find the skipper to have a chat.That chat was to advise them that they didn't get in the way of Andoo Comanche finishing the race and didn't affect the overall result.Herman's Mum said that he was trying to get in touch with the owner of the catamaran to tell them that it had no role in the way the boats got over the finish line.Peter Shipway joked "Maybe he might have to go up to Hobart jail to find the guy" - of course, this was said in jest.Do you know who owns the cruising catamaran "Let's Go"? I'm sure the skipper would love to hear that even though he was in the exclusion zone, he played no part in Andoo Comanche losing out to LawConnect.There's always some kind of drama in this great race!

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Ramona said..

garymalmgren said..
From Currawong's facebook page they said they retired because of shipping water and could not find the source.
Everything below wet.
www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=2birds2hobart

The ladies probably made the right choice in retiring as they did not feel confident in their rig for some reason. The water in the boat would be unsettling simply because they could not find the source. The obvious choice would be the stern gland which is awkward to check in a seaway or the seacocks which are easier to check. There is a sump on top of the keel which holds a fair amount of water and checking whether it came from the stern would be difficult. I notice they still have the original front hatch which closes flush with the cabin top. This hatch has an internal gutter and small drains to the outside. The forward deck hatch is similar. If these drains get blocked or the 20 hours or so of punching the fresh southerly overwhelmed the drains capacity the water will run down the heads compartment bulkhead and down into the shower grate. It would drain through the limber hole and tube to the sump. This whole area would be damp and the chances of them seeing the water actually draining down there is small. The chain plates are bolted through the cabin sides and these also leak. These are 100mm wide SS strips that bolt onto the steel girder that goes under the mast. Water runs down these as well and ends up under the mast and then into the sump. It's easy to sit here and be the armchair sailor. For these ladies being tired and stressed coming off watch it's a different story!

Yep, perspective is different when you're the one who has to make the decision and you and the crew are exhausted.

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Ramona said..

The forward deck hatch is similar..... down into the shower grate.

Just a minor point or two of minor of clarification, the forward deck hatch is a sealed life raft well and being as one. It doesn't leak. There is also no shower grate.

Sitting at dock as I left her, Currawong was very dry, but at sea there are lots of opportunities for leaks. Once whilst sailing her half way between Deal and Finders in 35N, 4m seas we were startled to find there was 15cm of water above the floor boards, only to discover that the keel water tank plate was leaking. The bilges are shallow and it wouldn't take much water to overflow them.

A

There are some variations with the forward hatch. Mine had a shower grate in teak and I could stand on it and watch the water run down the bulkhead when I had some insects block the drains! I had a sump between the water and fuel tanks that would probably hold 3 buckets of water.

But nobody mentioned my favourite boat Currawong! Moored near me ladies are top! What a spirit!