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captainyanti
captainyanti

NSW

66 posts

10 May 2021 7:26pm
hi all. Any recommendations for a web site about masthead rig tuning. Sailmaker says I need to increase the rake and my b1 and 2s are too tight. Thanks
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

10 May 2021 7:58pm
Not sure what b1 and 2s are - normally terminology is V1 and D2 for single spreader cap shrouds, D1 for single spreader rig lower diagonal. For 2 spreader V1, V2, D3 caps, D1 and D2 diagonals. Some of the below links will have diagrams.

There are numerous good guides - here are some ranging from the concise to the full monty from Selden. Suggest make sure your turnbuckles are well lubricated for a few weeks beforehand so that when you undo the locking nuts or turnbuckle bodies themselves you don't strip the threads. We use CorrosionX and it is superb but spendy - but worth it. Also suggest don't use shifters rather exact fitting spanners on the nuts else you could burr them and have a drama. Looking up the mast track before, during and after is critical to ensure the mast remains in the lateral plane the whole length else it could buckle. Is your mast keel or deck stepped.

www.sparcraft.com/uk/technical_support/sparcraft_recommendations/masts/tensioning_recommendation/fichiers/adjustments_recommandations.pdf

theriggingco.com/2017/01/21/how-to-tune-a-sailboat-mast/

uk.boats.com/how-to/how-to-tune-the-rig-on-your-yacht/

www.sailmagazine.com/diy/know-how-modern-rigs-101

www.northsails.com/sailing/en/2016/10/how-to-tune-your-rig

support.seldenmast.com/files/595-540-E.pdf
Wander66
Wander66

QLD

294 posts

10 May 2021 8:05pm



captainyanti
captainyanti

NSW

66 posts

10 May 2021 8:43pm
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r13 said..
Not sure what b1 and 2s are - normally terminology is V1 and D2 for single spreader cap shrouds, D1 for single spreader rig lower diagonal. For 2 spreader V1, V2, D3 caps, D1 and D2 diagonals. Some of the below links will have diagrams.

There are numerous good guides - here are some ranging from the concise to the full monty from Selden. Suggest make sure your turnbuckles are well lubricated for a few weeks beforehand so that when you undo the locking nuts or turnbuckle bodies themselves you don't strip the threads. We use CorrosionX and it is superb but spendy - but worth it. Also suggest don't use shifters rather exact fitting spanners on the nuts else you could burr them and have a drama. Looking up the mast track before, during and after is critical to ensure the mast remains in the lateral plane the whole length else it could buckle. Is your mast keel or deck stepped.

www.sparcraft.com/uk/technical_support/sparcraft_recommendations/masts/tensioning_recommendation/fichiers/adjustments_recommandations.pdf

theriggingco.com/2017/01/21/how-to-tune-a-sailboat-mast/

uk.boats.com/how-to/how-to-tune-the-rig-on-your-yacht/

www.sailmagazine.com/diy/know-how-modern-rigs-101

www.northsails.com/sailing/en/2016/10/how-to-tune-your-rig

support.seldenmast.com/files/595-540-E.pdf


R13 thanks. Looks like a bit to study. If I'm not confident i will get a rigger. My boat is a x-yacht 372. Keel stepped 2spreaders masthead. Is corrosion x a penetrating liquid or an anti seize? Cheers
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

10 May 2021 9:27pm
See full description of capabilities here;

www.corrosionx.com.au/product/corrosionx/
Stockie
Stockie

NSW

343 posts

11 May 2021 10:19pm
The Selden publication that r13 suggested is well worth reading, it describes pretty much all standard rig configurations, and even if your not keen to do it yourself, it's nice to read from a manufacturer how it should be done. I like their rig tension method with a 2 metre rule, and advice on various wire percentage of breaking strains!
Richard
Stockie
Stockie

NSW

343 posts

11 May 2021 10:22pm
The Selden publication that r13 suggested is well worth reading, it describes pretty much all standard rig configurations, and even if your not keen to do it yourself, it's nice to read from a manufacturer how it should be done. I like their rig tension method with a 2 metre rule, and advice on various wire percentage of breaking strains!
Richard
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

11 May 2021 10:35pm
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Wander66 said..




So that I know now and into the future what does this graphic with no text mean? Thanks in advance.
Wander66
Wander66

QLD

294 posts

12 May 2021 7:40am
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r13 said..

Wander66 said..




So that I know now and into the future what does this graphic with no text mean? Thanks in advance.


The original post asks: hi all. Any recommendations for a web site about masthead rig tuning. Sailmaker says I need to increase the rake and my b1 and 2s are too tight. Thanks

Sorry I know it's not helpful but it's just what occurred to me and thought someone might understand and have a giggle
DrogueOne
DrogueOne

215 posts

12 May 2021 9:11am
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Stockie said..
The Selden publication that r13 suggested is well worth reading, it describes pretty much all standard rig configurations, and even if your not keen to do it yourself, it's nice to read from a manufacturer how it should be done. I like their rig tension method with a 2 metre rule, and advice on various wire percentage of breaking strains!
Richard


+1 Thanks for finding this R13, has to be the definitive work on the black art of rigging.
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

12 May 2021 12:36pm
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Wander66 said..

r13 said..


Wander66 said..





So that I know now and into the future what does this graphic with no text mean? Thanks in advance.



The original post asks: hi all. Any recommendations for a web site about masthead rig tuning. Sailmaker says I need to increase the rake and my b1 and 2s are too tight. Thanks

Sorry I know it's not helpful but it's just what occurred to me and thought someone might understand and have a giggle


Ok good one thanks for clarifying.
captainyanti
captainyanti

NSW

66 posts

12 May 2021 5:36pm
Thanks heaps r13. Your info was great, I can google but you put me in the right direction. I wasn't born a rigger but I very well may die one. I enjoy doing things myself. I have a lovely boat and new sails fitted and I can't wait to impress myself. I had a giggle thanks to wander66. Cheers and thanks again R-Man
captainyanti
captainyanti

NSW

66 posts

12 May 2021 5:43pm
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Stockie said..
The Selden publication that r13 suggested is well worth reading, it describes pretty much all standard rig configurations, and even if your not keen to do it yourself, it's nice to read from a manufacturer how it should be done. I like their rig tension method with a 2 metre rule, and advice on various wire percentage of breaking strains!
Richard


Yes stockie. Me too. Who said the internet is a waste of life
r13
r13

r13

NSW

1714 posts

12 May 2021 7:09pm
Thanks Captainyanti and all much appreciated. Just to extend on the "don't strip the threads" text, stainless steel fasteners have a high potential for thread galling if it is not managed - see my input on this about 1/2 way down in the below prior thread which also has a lot of other interesting info.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Disclosure-of-known-defects-when-one-sells-a-yacht-
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