Heya,

I found a boat that I might buy, its a Redwich currently on the hard and the thing is... no trailer.

So anyone know where I can get a trailer, or rent one so I can move it a buy a trailer later in Sydney NSW?

If I can find a trailer for it temporarily I would be one happy chap!

I would just hire a car trailer or truck (flatbed) grab a mattress and move it that way. that's what I did to my Swanson Dart. I moved it from Yamba to Gympie.
I will be finally relocating it this Friday the same way into Mooloolaba.
You can also fabricate a cradle out of 50mm gal pipe and knuckles and sit it on the cradle so you can work on it (if required) Make sure the width of the cradle is not to wide so that it can sit on a tray bed or car trailer.

hi mate make a cradle and use a car trailer triton 24 from Sydney to teagardens had no drama at all heaps of looks though.

Thanks all! So the boat in question already has a cradle thankfully!

Also I have to get my own trailer since parking it will be an issue for a while therefore the need to move it will be frequent.

I like the idea of the flatbed and cradle though can you launch with that?

i could if it was a hire trailer but i borrowed that from my mate lol

LOL!

So the verdict is in.. I will have to build a replica trailer for this (assuming the boat is structurally sound, if not I have to find another). All I need is a schematic or someone that has one that is happy to let me measure their trailer.

How far is it to sail it from its current to desired destination?

Not sure I would build a trailer, unless you mean cradle?

Can you not use a flat bed car trailer to put the cradle on?
Ed

Select to expand quote

Cav30 said..
How far is it to sail it from its current to desired destination?

Not sure I would build a trailer, unless you mean cradle?

Can you not use a flat bed car trailer to put the cradle on?
Ed

Its not sail-able at the moment no windows partially sanded hull..

The catch for me is the need to frequently move it around. I'm anticipating unhappy neighbors for a while so mobility is the best thing I can do otherwise it will cost a fortune to have to rent cranes and flatbeds to move it around.

Also the first thing I want to do is put it into the water and see if it still floats and find any leaks to fix.

So this leaves me with no choice but ti sort out a trailer. :)

In my very humble opinion.

You will be spending a fortune on paint, blocks, rigging you name it. Let alone your plans to build a trailer.

Way more than buying a sea worthy cheap trailer sailor that's ready to go.

Ed.

Sounds like a bit of a head ache, Unless you particularly want a red witch.
There's a Norwalk island sharpie 23 on gumtree at Ulladulla with a bit to do, on a good trailer, they get a good rave.

Yeh that's a nice one too. You pay that much for a Hartley 16. So many boats, so cheap, soon we will be paid to take em away.

Even if the redwitch is only $160? Comes with mast and some Sails.

How much paint are we talking about?

This is the boat.

Select to expand quote

destine said..
Even if the redwitch is only $160? Comes with mast and some Sails.

How much paint are we talking about?

Very small boat with a cast iron keel.

Select to expand quote

Ramona said..

destine said..
Even if the redwitch is only $160? Comes with mast and some Sails.

How much paint are we talking about?

Very small boat with a cast iron keel.

Exactly, being so small is particularly what I like about it. Less work to do and maintain. Easier to put on a trailer without straining my car and easier to park it somewhere.

I have no interest in taking this into big swell much ocean trips. Its to putter around the harbour and maybe a lake or too. Maybe even participate in a few local club races just for fun and to enter into sailing on my own terms and time.

So, is this worth it or is it a nightmare waiting to happen?

There was a similar red witch resto thread on here not long ago, maybe last year? Might be worthwhile emailing the op of that thread to get an idea of what it took. Good read and very indepth.

For 160 small ones thats a dead set cheap boat. I would jump at it if it came my way. It will cost you quite a bit to get it back to sailing condition if buying new parts. But if you beg, scrounge and hunt long enough it shouldnt be too bad. You might find a boat that sails and has a trailer for cheaper than what it costs you to resto that one but what fun is that. You will learn your boat inside out.

Its your life destine and we learn whether good or bad experience. Only you know what in this life makes you happy. Take advice but check it fits. Good luck either way.

A trailer boat with a fixed keel, would very much restrict launch and retrieval options. Ie. Floating the boat on and off the trailer means having the trailer totally submerged. If you intend to keep your boat on a trailer I think a centre boarder would be a better option and you can park em right up on the beach

Select to expand quote

simmrr said..
There was a similar red witch resto thread on here not long ago, maybe last year? Might be worthwhile emailing the op of that thread to get an idea of what it took. Good read and very indepth.

For 160 small ones thats a dead set cheap boat. I would jump at it if it came my way. It will cost you quite a bit to get it back to sailing condition if buying new parts. But if you beg, scrounge and hunt long enough it shouldnt be too bad. You might find a boat that sails and has a trailer for cheaper than what it costs you to resto that one but what fun is that. You will learn your boat inside out.

Its your life destine and we learn whether good or bad experience. Only you know what in this life makes you happy. Take advice but check it fits. Good luck either way.

Thanks simmrr, one of the things that is appealing in this is the initial outlay is tiny. To get it going may cost alot more but I can spread that over time which will make it palatable.

I did see that thread and I hoping he would let me measure his trailer so I can make a replica and I would be looking at it for how too and such.

Getting to learn the boat inside out is another, I think this is a must before buying a full size cruising yacht, I'm hoping this builder experience will tell me more about what I want out of a yatch and what to look for and expect. Start small to learn then get bigger.

On the other side of this. If it is too much I can always put up the boat for sale with a trailer for the next person to take on the project, of course it would be at a loss but if I'm careful I don't think it would be a complete loss. If I do say sink the boat atleast I'm not sinking 20K! and that would not impact any financials.

Honestly I would prefer to get a boat that can already sail but I cannot outlay that in one go as it would get in the way of other goals which as a rule this project must not interfere with.

Select to expand quote

woko said..
A trailer boat with a fixed keel, would very much restrict launch and retrieval options. Ie. Floating the boat on and off the trailer means having the trailer totally submerged. If you intend to keep your boat on a trailer I think a centre boarder would be a better option and you can park em right up on the beach

If you can show me a similar boat with an adjustable keel for a similar price you would make my day. You can even double the price!

Hmmm.... ok $160 ain't much so double that's only $ 320 I recon I know of a Dennis maybe 18 ft you might get for double that. Pm me about it if you like

Select to expand quote

destine said..


I have no interest in taking this into big swell much ocean trips.

It actually handles big swell much better then you'd expect from a boat that size, it was built for WA conditions so as long as you don't mind getting splashed a lot you could take it to Tassie and back.

Select to expand quote

destine said..

simmrr said..
There was a similar red witch resto thread on here not long ago, maybe last year? Might be worthwhile emailing the op of that thread to get an idea of what it took. Good read and very indepth.

For 160 small ones thats a dead set cheap boat. I would jump at it if it came my way. It will cost you quite a bit to get it back to sailing condition if buying new parts. But if you beg, scrounge and hunt long enough it shouldnt be too bad. You might find a boat that sails and has a trailer for cheaper than what it costs you to resto that one but what fun is that. You will learn your boat inside out.

Its your life destine and we learn whether good or bad experience. Only you know what in this life makes you happy. Take advice but check it fits. Good luck either way.

Thanks simmrr, one of the things that is appealing in this is the initial outlay is tiny. To get it going may cost alot more but I can spread that over time which will make it palatable.

I did see that thread and I hoping he would let me measure his trailer so I can make a replica and I would be looking at it for how too and such.

Getting to learn the boat inside out is another, I think this is a must before buying a full size cruising yacht, I'm hoping this builder experience will tell me more about what I want out of a yatch and what to look for and expect. Start small to learn then get bigger.

On the other side of this. If it is too much I can always put up the boat for sale with a trailer for the next person to take on the project, of course it would be at a loss but if I'm careful I don't think it would be a complete loss. If I do say sink the boat atleast I'm not sinking 20K! and that would not impact any financials.

Honestly I would prefer to get a boat that can already sail but I cannot outlay that in one go as it would get in the way of other goals which as a rule this project must not interfere with.

Why not get a mooring? They're not expensive if you can put it somewhere a bit out of the way. Every two years need to slip it for antifoul. A lot less trouble than stuffing around with trailers.

btw yours looks in much better condition than mine was

Select to expand quote

BarPoint said..

destine said..

simmrr said..
There was a similar red witch resto thread on here not long ago, maybe last year? Might be worthwhile emailing the op of that thread to get an idea of what it took. Good read and very indepth.

For 160 small ones thats a dead set cheap boat. I would jump at it if it came my way. It will cost you quite a bit to get it back to sailing condition if buying new parts. But if you beg, scrounge and hunt long enough it shouldnt be too bad. You might find a boat that sails and has a trailer for cheaper than what it costs you to resto that one but what fun is that. You will learn your boat inside out.

Its your life destine and we learn whether good or bad experience. Only you know what in this life makes you happy. Take advice but check it fits. Good luck either way.

Thanks simmrr, one of the things that is appealing in this is the initial outlay is tiny. To get it going may cost alot more but I can spread that over time which will make it palatable.

I did see that thread and I hoping he would let me measure his trailer so I can make a replica and I would be looking at it for how too and such.

Getting to learn the boat inside out is another, I think this is a must before buying a full size cruising yacht, I'm hoping this builder experience will tell me more about what I want out of a yatch and what to look for and expect. Start small to learn then get bigger.

On the other side of this. If it is too much I can always put up the boat for sale with a trailer for the next person to take on the project, of course it would be at a loss but if I'm careful I don't think it would be a complete loss. If I do say sink the boat atleast I'm not sinking 20K! and that would not impact any financials.

Honestly I would prefer to get a boat that can already sail but I cannot outlay that in one go as it would get in the way of other goals which as a rule this project must not interfere with.

Why not get a mooring? They're not expensive if you can put it somewhere a bit out of the way. Every two years need to slip it for antifoul. A lot less trouble than stuffing around with trailers.

btw yours looks in much better condition than mine was

There's another around in even better condition but much more cost.

Can I ask how much you spent to get it into sailing condition ?

Select to expand quote

destine said..

BarPoint said..

destine said..

simmrr said..
There was a similar red witch resto thread on here not long ago, maybe last year? Might be worthwhile emailing the op of that thread to get an idea of what it took. Good read and very indepth.

For 160 small ones thats a dead set cheap boat. I would jump at it if it came my way. It will cost you quite a bit to get it back to sailing condition if buying new parts. But if you beg, scrounge and hunt long enough it shouldnt be too bad. You might find a boat that sails and has a trailer for cheaper than what it costs you to resto that one but what fun is that. You will learn your boat inside out.

Its your life destine and we learn whether good or bad experience. Only you know what in this life makes you happy. Take advice but check it fits. Good luck either way.

Thanks simmrr, one of the things that is appealing in this is the initial outlay is tiny. To get it going may cost alot more but I can spread that over time which will make it palatable.

I did see that thread and I hoping he would let me measure his trailer so I can make a replica and I would be looking at it for how too and such.

Getting to learn the boat inside out is another, I think this is a must before buying a full size cruising yacht, I'm hoping this builder experience will tell me more about what I want out of a yatch and what to look for and expect. Start small to learn then get bigger.

On the other side of this. If it is too much I can always put up the boat for sale with a trailer for the next person to take on the project, of course it would be at a loss but if I'm careful I don't think it would be a complete loss. If I do say sink the boat atleast I'm not sinking 20K! and that would not impact any financials.

Honestly I would prefer to get a boat that can already sail but I cannot outlay that in one go as it would get in the way of other goals which as a rule this project must not interfere with.

Why not get a mooring? They're not expensive if you can put it somewhere a bit out of the way. Every two years need to slip it for antifoul. A lot less trouble than stuffing around with trailers.

btw yours looks in much better condition than mine was

There's another around in even better condition but much more cost.

Can I ask how much you spent to get it into sailing condition ?

mine had been sitting on a mooring for 15 years. all base plates of the fittings had disintegrated and there was a jungle growing underneath so I slipped her, cleaned and antifouled her and had a professional rigger do the rigging for me... which was very expensive.. but the result is far better than I could have achieved, and far better than I could has got by buying a boat in better condition, so I am happy...the rigging deal was about $4000

I have no doubt new rigging like that would be awesome, but at the moment it's about cost and just getting on the water to learn about the sport/hobby.

So I have joined a sailing club and will spend a bit more a bit later on something ready to sail.

I did see that one in WA, though getting it to nsw would not be possible atm.