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kite21
kite21

5 posts

20 Aug 2021 8:32pm
Hi
I am looking for any information anyone has on Red Eagle yachts. There isn't much online, I believe they were made by Hill and Cameron like the Red Witches.

Many Thanks
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

21 Aug 2021 8:30am
Never seen one. There are hundreds of Redjackets about and plenty of Red Witches and a few Red Barons and after reading about the Red Eagle I would stick to a Red Witch. There are owners of Red Witches on this forum.


"The Red Witch was preceded by the Red Eagle and Red Jacket designs, both of which are very similar to the Red Witch, but substantially slower. The Red Eagle is longer, narrower, has a longer cockpit and a higher cabin roof, more similar to the Red Jacket than the Red Witch. Also developed by Hill and Cameron in the mid-1970s was the Red Baron catamaran at 5.99 m LOA with a 2.63 m beam, 0.30 m draft, displacement of 352 kg and sail area of 13.8 m2. The Red Baron was designed by Neil Fowler of Darwin."

I took this photo in 1969 in Perth when Redjackets was being launched at a ramp. They were everywhere at the time.



Poodle
Poodle

WA

867 posts

21 Aug 2021 9:36am
Dont know about red eagle yachts, but Ramona that is a great photo of life back in the day! Is that at an older version of the Matilda Bay boat ramp, next to Royal Perth YC?
kite21
kite21

5 posts

21 Aug 2021 11:01am
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Ramona said..
Never seen one. There are hundreds of Redjackets about and plenty of Red Witches and a few Red Barons and after reading about the Red Eagle I would stick to a Red Witch. There are owners of Red Witches on this forum.


"The Red Witch was preceded by the Red Eagle and Red Jacket designs, both of which are very similar to the Red Witch, but substantially slower. The Red Eagle is longer, narrower, has a longer cockpit and a higher cabin roof, more similar to the Red Jacket than the Red Witch. Also developed by Hill and Cameron in the mid-1970s was the Red Baron catamaran at 5.99 m LOA with a 2.63 m beam, 0.30 m draft, displacement of 352 kg and sail area of 13.8 m2. The Red Baron was designed by Neil Fowler of Darwin."

I took this photo in 1969 in Perth when Redjackets was being launched at a ramp. They were everywhere at the time.




Thanks for the reply. Great photo!

Someone has given me a Red Eagle (haven't collected her yet) looks almost identical to a Red Jacket just longer. I was trying to find info on draft ect.

thanks again!
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

21 Aug 2021 6:03pm
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Poodle said..
Dont know about red eagle yachts, but Ramona that is a great photo of life back in the day! Is that at an older version of the Matilda Bay boat ramp, next to Royal Perth YC?


Pretty sure it was. There were several Redjackets being launched there at the time. The photo shows the real disadvantage of launching fin keel yachts before someone dreamed up extension bars.
Ilenart
Ilenart

WA

250 posts

21 Aug 2021 7:21pm
A Red Eagle is very similar to a Red Jacket however has a different longer stern which is narrower and I believe the rudder goes thru the hull, rather than hanging of the stern. I'm on my yacht tonight, when I get home I'll look up the details in my "Australia Yacht Bible" - Pocket Book of Australian & NZ Yachts. I think the Red Eagle has a separate entry.

Ilenart
kite21
kite21

5 posts

22 Aug 2021 10:12am
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Ilenart said..
A Red Eagle is very similar to a Red Jacket however has a different longer stern which is narrower and I believe the rudder goes thru the hull, rather than hanging of the stern. I'm on my yacht tonight, when I get home I'll look up the details in my "Australia Yacht Bible" - Pocket Book of Australian & NZ Yachts. I think the Red Eagle has a separate entry.

Ilenart


Fantastic thanks very much!Any info around draft and other spec would be greatly appreciated!
Ilenart
Ilenart

WA

250 posts

22 Aug 2021 3:28pm
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kite21 said..


Ilenart said..
A Red Eagle is very similar to a Red Jacket however has a different longer stern which is narrower and I believe the rudder goes thru the hull, rather than hanging of the stern. I'm on my yacht tonight, when I get home I'll look up the details in my "Australia Yacht Bible" - Pocket Book of Australian & NZ Yachts. I think the Red Eagle has a separate entry.

Ilenart




Fantastic thanks very much!Any info around draft and other spec would be greatly appreciated!



No luck, the book lists Red Baron, Red Jacket & Red Witch. No info on Red Eagle.

Looking at photos of the Red Eagle, my guess is that they would have the same draft as a Red Jacket, which is 0.67m / 2 ft 3".

The following used to be included in the Wikipedia Red Witch article, until someone deleted it:
The Red Witch was preceded by the Red Eagle and Red Jacket designs, both of which are very similar to the Red Witch, but substantially slower. The Red Eagle is longer, narrower, has a longer cockpit and a higher cabin roof, more similar to the Red Jacket than the Red Witch. Also developed by Hill and Cameron in the mid-1970s was the Red Baron catamaran at 5.99 m LOA with a 2.63 m beam, 0.30 m draft, displacement of 352 kg and sail area of 13.8 m2. The Red Baron was designed by Neil Fowler of Darwin.
kite21
kite21

5 posts

22 Aug 2021 5:09pm
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Ilenart said..

kite21 said..



Ilenart said..
A Red Eagle is very similar to a Red Jacket however has a different longer stern which is narrower and I believe the rudder goes thru the hull, rather than hanging of the stern. I'm on my yacht tonight, when I get home I'll look up the details in my "Australia Yacht Bible" - Pocket Book of Australian & NZ Yachts. I think the Red Eagle has a separate entry.

Ilenart





Fantastic thanks very much!Any info around draft and other spec would be greatly appreciated!




No luck, the book lists Red Baron, Red Jacket & Red Witch. No info on Red Eagle.

Looking at photos of the Red Eagle, my guess is that they would have the same draft as a Red Jacket, which is 0.67m / 2 ft 3".

The following used to be included in the Wikipedia Red Witch article, until someone deleted it:
The Red Witch was preceded by the Red Eagle and Red Jacket designs, both of which are very similar to the Red Witch, but substantially slower. The Red Eagle is longer, narrower, has a longer cockpit and a higher cabin roof, more similar to the Red Jacket than the Red Witch. Also developed by Hill and Cameron in the mid-1970s was the Red Baron catamaran at 5.99 m LOA with a 2.63 m beam, 0.30 m draft, displacement of 352 kg and sail area of 13.8 m2. The Red Baron was designed by Neil Fowler of Darwin.


Not a problem, thanks for looking!

I presumed they would have the same draft. I'm away at the moment, someone has donated her to me I just have to pick her up from the Marina when I get back. I was just trying to find out what I was getting into.

Thanks Again.
Chris 249
Chris 249

NSW

3531 posts

24 Aug 2021 8:32pm
The Red Jacket is a license-built version of the Per Brohal designed Stortriss Mk 1 from Sweden, if that helps. Googling Stortriss gives you a bit of info.

The info I can remember reading was that the Eagle was a Jacket with just a couple of feet added to the stern and cockpit. I think I've seen a pic in an ad in my collection of old mags that would confirm it, but it's probably stuck in the roof in the garage of our place in Canberra.

For some reason I was looking through some old Canberra YC mags on the web the other day and I think I came across a reference to a mate (a former Flying 15 national champ) borrowing a Red Jacket and winning the ACT trailer yacht championships with it. That would have been a way to make an impact!
kite21
kite21

5 posts

25 Aug 2021 10:31am
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Chris 249 said..
The Red Jacket is a license-built version of the Per Brohal designed Stortriss Mk 1 from Sweden, if that helps. Googling Stortriss gives you a bit of info.

The info I can remember reading was that the Eagle was a Jacket with just a couple of feet added to the stern and cockpit. I think I've seen a pic in an ad in my collection of old mags that would confirm it, but it's probably stuck in the roof in the garage of our place in Canberra.

For some reason I was looking through some old Canberra YC mags on the web the other day and I think I came across a reference to a mate (a former Flying 15 national champ) borrowing a Red Jacket and winning the ACT trailer yacht championships with it. That would have been a way to make an impact!


Thanks for that Chris! I'll have a google.
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