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Created by Charriot Charriot  > 9 months ago, 17 May 2014
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Charriot
Charriot

QLD

880 posts

28 Jun 2014 8:54pm
I guess this might become a bit boring. Promise it might be the one before last.
Current update. All people been rescued again,

Current situation.... Pingvin and Coral Adventure are both struck on the beach.
cisco
cisco

QLD

12364 posts

28 Jun 2014 10:12pm
This sounds like it is going from bad to worse.

Their next tidal window of opportunity is in 15 days time.

There will be some vultures in there sooner or later.
Supersonic27
Supersonic27

NSW

235 posts

1 Jul 2014 7:52pm
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cisco said...

This sounds like it is going from bad to worse.



Their next tidal window of opportunity is in 15 days time.



There will be some vultures in there sooner or later.





Supersonic27
Supersonic27

NSW

235 posts

1 Jul 2014 7:59pm
seem to be having trouble with Ipad!

here's the latest on this one, anyone keen for a bargain!

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/yeppoon/sail-boats/cheap-boat/1050613832
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

1 Jul 2014 8:11pm

so how does that work , they can just park her there and then advertise for sale ? or is this SV abandoned and up for salvage grabs ? what is the correct situation here???
Supersonic27
Supersonic27

NSW

235 posts

1 Jul 2014 8:21pm
I think they are selling the "liability".......obviously uninsured!
BlueMoon
BlueMoon

866 posts

1 Jul 2014 6:35pm
Not an expert on Maritime salvage laws here, as far as I know vessels must of been abandoned permanantly, the vessel must be in danger of being lost or destroyed. It has been sitting happily there for the last month or so, I think you'd have a fight to prove it was suddenly in danger & you had to re-float it to remove it from imminent danger. The owners know the location of it, no different to it being anchored I reckon. Looting it would no doubt be stealing, & punishable by being flooged to death (if you ask some seabreezers!).
cheers
cisco
cisco

QLD

12364 posts

1 Jul 2014 8:58pm
Seems to be "so near but so far" and most sensible people do not buy "liabilities". What a bugger.

Me thinks the vultures will be feeding on the carcass soon.
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

1 Jul 2014 10:13pm

taken from Wikipedia


"Marine salvage
is the process of recovering a ship, its cargo, or other property after a shipwreck. Salvage encompasses towing, refloating a sunken or grounded vessel, or patching or repairing a ship. Today the protection of the environment from cargoes such as oil or other contaminants is often considered a high priority. "Salvors" are seamen and engineers who carry out salvage to vessels that are not owned by themselves, and who are not members of the vessel's original crew. When salvaging large ships, they may use cranes, floating dry docks and divers to lift and repair ships for short journeys to safety towed by a tugboat. The aim of the salvage may be to repair the vessel at a harbour or dry dock, or to clear a channel for navigation. Another reason for salvage may be to prevent pollution or damage to the marine environment. Alternatively the vessel or valuable parts of the vessel or its cargo may be recovered for its resale value, or for scrap."


i would suggest that the cost the recovery project her would far out weigh the value of same if purchased in a convenient location.
southace
southace

SA

4794 posts

2 Jul 2014 7:44am
It's my understanding 1982 built yachts are very rare to be valued at 80 k unless they have gone through a major refit. In today's market that boat would be worth 50k

- 20k for my work barge and the hire of a backhoe plus extras......!
BlueMoon
BlueMoon

866 posts

2 Jul 2014 7:45am
If they are trying to sell the vessel for $10k, surely the most you could be awarded in a court is $10k, before court costs! After you have successfully re-floated it. So yes, costs to get it out will far outweigh her value, I suspect they will have to just remove everything of value & effectively leave it as unfortunate litter on the beach.
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

2 Jul 2014 10:06am
We have a 55 footer on the beach here at the moment. There has been no attempt to get her off. I was conversing with the MSB inspecter at the site a couple of days ago and he was concerned about pollution etc and wanted the boat gone. In this case the costs could soon become enormous if there is any sort of clean up. My mate was considering making an offer for it as is. Probably not hard to refloat this vessel but if there is a fuel leak or something similar then costs can escalate rapidly once the officials move in. Fortunately we are just outside the national park. Not sure about the Queensland boat up on the beach.
LooseChange
LooseChange

NSW

2140 posts

2 Jul 2014 11:09am
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BlueMoon said...
If they are trying to sell the vessel for $10k, surely the most you could be awarded in a court is $10k, before court costs! After you have successfully re-floated it. So yes, costs to get it out will far outweigh her value, I suspect they will have to just remove everything of value & effectively leave it as unfortunate litter on the beach.


Unfortunate litter on the beach shouldn't be a tag to dispose of something. If I drop a gum wrapper on the street and get spotted doing it I can be fined on the spot.
So when you dump a 20 ton boat on the beach and they come knocking on your door because you inadvertantly left the rego number painted on the hull, you put on a really surprised look and exclaim "So that's what happened to my boat" and leave it at that because the boat is now "Unfortunate litter on the beach" and someone else is left to clean up the mess.
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