Christmas was very exiting for me.
Since Marcia damage, all my sailing was put on hold , waiting for replacements take place.
Complete rigging incluiding furler, head sail and tiller.
A week before Christmas, finally all was completed and I took a boat for few days around Keppels.
Just a few pics , before and after, have to say a mast - furler, tiller are perfect, Not quite happy with head sail,
Local sailmaker belive it is a perfect copy of my previous sail, but the clew is very, very high and loosing too much air,
The boat lost speed and leaning much more. That's my observation , can't get message through, passed to YOUI,
see if any outcome. Guess for deep keeler would be ok, but shallow draft T/S, is probably Not.

She looks good. I like that mast.

Did I miss something over Christmas at remote islands? Cyclone ? Where?

I know it's long time ago, ..did I say Marcia.
What about my head sail clew?

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Charriot said..
What about my head sail clew?

Talk to the sailmaker , note your discussion and insist on a proper job.
ie. sheeting angle
Possibly a bit more complicated with a reefer than a hanker but it does sound as if you did request a specific cut.
Good luck it took me 12 months but settled in the end.

have you got a pic of her close hauled ?

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I had a long talk to sailmaker and a rigger after I find out stuf up, but unsuccessfully.
Did call me a month ago, what sail I wont, Genoa 150%.
After the sail was made,and I took it for test sail and complain , they disclose, they have what left from the old one .
8 month I didn't know that. I would be happy with the copy old one, but it is not.
they don't won't to accept that..


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Hi Charriot,
Congrats on getting her back sailing, you must be chuffed!
Regards headsail, it looks way to high to me for a 150%.
Ques 1: is it actually 150% ?? (It doesn't look like it, but pic angles are deceiving) you could get it remade on that alone rather than argue clew positions.
Ques 2: is that close hauled? I hope not , clew looks too high .
Ques3 : Does the leach look alright when it's set? In other words can the leach hook to windward,or is it open?
Summing up re: the clew height, where is the 150% ???? It looks like a no3.
Regards,
SB

in the first pic it looks like a # 3 for sure or there a bouts anyway , that is no way a #1 . not in a pink fit !!!!!

Your new furler sits the tack quite a bit higher than your old one, see this picture from your gallery to compare. Take the LP and J measurements to get a check of the sizing, hard to tell from the photos, but to me it looks like at least a 135, given it comes back to the second stanchion.

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Charriot said..
What about my head sail clew?

Talk to the sailmaker , note your discussion and insist on a proper job.
ie. sheeting angle
Possibly a bit more complicated with a reefer than a hanker but it does sound as if you did request a specific cut.
Good luck it took me 12 months but settled in the end.

I had trouble getting head sails cut right too at different times. Maybe its difficult for a sailmaker who's in his loft to understand what the sail does on the boat.

One sailmaker I knew though in Sydney would sometimes come to the boat to look at the sail and mark out what to do. Bing!!! After that I did it myself. ie. marked on the sail where I wanted it longer/shorter and deeper shallower. By doing this I got the shape cut beautifully.

The marking was done with different colours of electrical insulation tape stuck on and notes written on that.

Looks pretty close to me, and I would agree with FreeRadical, the tack is 3-4 inches higher on the new sail compared to the old. The angle of the foot in relation to the deck looks pretty bloody close old to new.

And you say the boat is leaning more but is slower and loosing wind in the sail? They are opposite things.
Leaning more would suggest there is more power in the sail but slower would suggest less?

To start with, for the angle of sail, you have the jib cars way too far back so the leech of the sail would be spilling wind.

In reality the only way to test a headsail is to have the main up and sail upwind, it is afterall what headsails are designed primarily to do. If your speed and the way the headsail sets is off upwind then you have an issue.

To me, looks small, certainly not a #1, and yes clew looks way too high.

Interesting that sailmaker is not prepared to listen .... is it local loft or on-line ??? ..... but curious a local guy wont listen.

My youngest son is sailmaker, I know he visits (where practical but know has driven up to 4 hours from loft each way) and measures every sail he makes, even if the customer has sent in the dimensions .... surprising how often he finds errors and believes the the extra time taken causes him less complaints and less return. Most recent, customer measured sail, forgot to tell him, they had changed to a flexible top on mast and owners measurements, 400mm short on luff ..... go figure.