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andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

11 Oct 2017 12:54pm
Hey seabreezers just stepped aboard my new boat (xyachts x442)
I have no idea how to sail it, all sorts of systems and gear that is past my level of experience
plus its huge (for me )
I'm here in Pittwater until Sunday morning. Anyone who wants to help me out teach me a few things or just help with sailing her would be much appreciated.
Sorry about the sideways pics.








boty
boty

QLD

685 posts

11 Oct 2017 2:05pm
congratulations very shinny looks very comfy have fun
samsturdy
samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

11 Oct 2017 3:36pm
Whereabouts in Pittwater are you moored Andy ?.
samsturdy
samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

11 Oct 2017 3:36pm
Whereabouts in Pittwater are you moored Andy ?.
BlueMoon
BlueMoon

866 posts

11 Oct 2017 12:39pm
Are you then sailing North Sunday morning Andy?,
if so I'll keep an eye out for you I'm planning to be sailing South to Port Jackson then from Laurieton.
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

11 Oct 2017 2:42pm
Thanks Boty
i just tied up at the motor yacht club Sam
Blue moon I'll probably sail back next weekend as long as the northerlies don't blow
Lazzz
Lazzz

NSW

910 posts

11 Oct 2017 5:03pm
Looks the goods :) Congrats.

I'm sure you'll have her sussed out by the time you get back home!!
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

11 Oct 2017 4:53pm
Thanks Lazz
MorningBird
MorningBird

NSW

2703 posts

11 Oct 2017 8:20pm
Just tried to call you. I might be free tomorrow to come up to have a look. I'll try to call later, or you can call me on the number that should be in your missed calls.
sirgallivant
sirgallivant

NSW

1531 posts

11 Oct 2017 9:57pm
Yeah, right!
Most probably you forgot more about sailing than we will ever know.

Nice try.

Fair winds!

samsturdy
samsturdy

NSW

1659 posts

12 Oct 2017 9:31am
Oh I get it.....just wants to flash his boat off to the local seabreezers before he sails off to Qld. Yeah..nice try Andy.
frant
frant

VIC

1230 posts

12 Oct 2017 11:26am
Think you have opened up a can of worms here in crossing to the "enlightened" side. Virtues of bolted on fin keel vs full keel, a proper rudder vs a hinged barn door hanging off a skeg, saildrive leg vs leaky shaft drive etc etc.
frant
frant

VIC

1230 posts

12 Oct 2017 11:49am
A very nice boat, almost identical to a First 44.7. For short handed you will need to set up with a well designed lazy jack bag system. Otherwise everything looks ready to go. Boat will have no sailing vices, manouvering under motor use moderate/firm bursts of throttle over the rudder to steer and keep enough speed for flow over the foils once moving and pull up with a burst of throttle.
Well purchased!!!
I see that a lazy jack system is included in inventory, so you are probably already covered on that one.
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

12 Oct 2017 3:19pm
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sirgallivant said..
Yeah, right!
Most probably you forgot more about sailing than we will ever know.

Nice try.

Fair winds!




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sirgallivant said..
Yeah, right!
Most probably you forgot more about sailing than we will ever know.

Nice try.

Fair winds!




ha ha SirGal There's a lot about parking a big boat in close quarters I don't know, that's for sure
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

12 Oct 2017 3:22pm
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frant said..
A very nice boat, almost identical to a First 44.7. For short handed you will need to set up with a well designed lazy jack bag system. Otherwise everything looks ready to go. Boat will have no sailing vices, manouvering under motor use moderate/firm bursts of throttle over the rudder to steer and keep enough speed for flow over the foils once moving and pull up with a burst of throttle.
Well purchased!!!
I see that a lazy jack system is included in inventory, so you are probably already covered on that one.


Thanks Frant, if you see a boat motoring backwards all over pittwater tomorrow that's me practising
frant
frant

VIC

1230 posts

12 Oct 2017 5:01pm
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andy59 said..

frant said..
A very nice boat, almost identical to a First 44.7. For short handed you will need to set up with a well designed lazy jack bag system. Otherwise everything looks ready to go. Boat will have no sailing vices, manouvering under motor use moderate/firm bursts of throttle over the rudder to steer and keep enough speed for flow over the foils once moving and pull up with a burst of throttle.
Well purchased!!!
I see that a lazy jack system is included in inventory, so you are probably already covered on that one.



Thanks Frant, if you see a boat motoring backwards all over pittwater tomorrow that's me practising


Andy, your boat probably has a Yanmar SD40 or SD50 saildrive leg. There have been some reports of issues with the cone clutch slipping when trying to engage gears. This is caused by glazing of the clutch surfaces, not a big issue to lap the cones if necessary and correct grade gearbox oil essential.
However if you are going to be charging all over Pittwater suggest you learn how to engage drive. With lever in neutral engage the drive either forward or reverse smoothly but firmly until drive has "clicked" in. Then pause momentarily before applying engine revs. When manouvering from forward to reverse and vice versa drop into neutral allowing prop to stop rotating before engaging new drive. Don't slam from one to the other. Only boats that I have direct knowledge of cone clutch slip had Gori hyperdrive prop that the crew would slam from reverse into forward to engage hyperdrive.
MorningBird
MorningBird

NSW

2703 posts

12 Oct 2017 5:07pm
Andy, good to catch up even if very briefly.
Your boat is in lovely nick and once you have mastered the systems you will be wondering what the trepidation was about. She will be a very fine cruising and family yacht, X Boats are also excellent offshore cruisers.
It will be a great boat for a great trip to Lord Howe next year. If you do want to have the option to go the BBQ is the 3rd Tuesday in November.
I suggest you reserve a mooring with the Lord Howe Island Board from the Friday before the BBQ to the Wednesday on completion, or longer if you want more time there. 5-7 days will probably be enough for you, it isn't very big but the bushwalking, diving and snorkelling are world class.
When do you plan to go home?
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

13 Oct 2017 12:14am
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frant said..

andy59 said..


frant said..
A very nice boat, almost identical to a First 44.7. For short handed you will need to set up with a well designed lazy jack bag system. Otherwise everything looks ready to go. Boat will have no sailing vices, manouvering under motor use moderate/firm bursts of throttle over the rudder to steer and keep enough speed for flow over the foils once moving and pull up with a burst of throttle.
Well purchased!!!
I see that a lazy jack system is included in inventory, so you are probably already covered on that one.




Thanks Frant, if you see a boat motoring backwards all over pittwater tomorrow that's me practising



Andy, your boat probably has a Yanmar SD40 or SD50 saildrive leg. There have been some reports of issues with the cone clutch slipping when trying to engage gears. This is caused by glazing of the clutch surfaces, not a big issue to lap the cones if necessary and correct grade gearbox oil essential.
However if you are going to be charging all over Pittwater suggest you learn how to engage drive. With lever in neutral engage the drive either forward or reverse smoothly but firmly until drive has "clicked" in. Then pause momentarily before applying engine revs. When manouvering from forward to reverse and vice versa drop into neutral allowing prop to stop rotating before engaging new drive. Don't slam from one to the other. Only boats that I have direct knowledge of cone clutch slip had Gori hyperdrive prop that the crew would slam from reverse into forward to engage hyperdrive.


That's good to know!! Thanks Frant
andy59
andy59

QLD

1156 posts

13 Oct 2017 12:19am
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MorningBird said..
Andy, good to catch up even if very briefly.
Your boat is in lovely nick and once you have mastered the systems you will be wondering what the trepidation was about. She will be a very fine cruising and family yacht, X Boats are also excellent offshore cruisers.
It will be a great boat for a great trip to Lord Howe next year. If you do want to have the option to go the BBQ is the 3rd Tuesday in November.
I suggest you reserve a mooring with the Lord Howe Island Board from the Friday before the BBQ to the Wednesday on completion, or longer if you want more time there. 5-7 days will probably be enough for you, it isn't very big but the bushwalking, diving and snorkelling are world class.
When do you plan to go home?


Thanks for coming down MB Lord Howe sounds like a great trip. I will make the booking.
Planning to leave next weekend 21/10/17 weather permitting
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