We are looking at maybe moving to Drummoyne. Five Dock Bay south mooring area is at the end of the street of a house we are looking at. If I could have MB at the end of my street I'd probably keep her, having my boat at the bottom of the street is very appealing.
I recall someone on here said they had problems with an area around there, maybe Five Dock Bay.
Apart from the distance to open water, are there issues with Five Dock Bay moorings?

DrRog used to have a mooring at Five Dock...

I am at Drummoyne and have not heard recent vandalism but this does not mean l am not going to be burgled tomorrow.
It seems to be quite around here.
One of Trek's gudgets might come handy if you going to live so close to your yacht.

Hey MB,

I live in Drummoyne and actually run down around that bay fairly regularly.

It'd really depend on how far down in the bay you got the mooring (and whether that suited the house).

The more North Eastish part of that area would probably be better - it's easier to launch a dinghy (could even probably use the boat ramp there), there's less mangroves etc. The further you get South West, the more you end up with your dinghy tied up to the seawall/fence that you have to clamber down. Would also really increase time to the harbour.

Otherwise, the only other thing is that under Gladesville bridge you can get a fairly strong tide out - was part of the reason I ended up having to add an outboard to mine. I once tacked back and forth about 10-15 times when the wind was wrong trying to get back upriver!

Thanks all. I messaged DrRog who gave me some good feedback. It appears it is a reasonable spot for the boat. The house is off Lyons Rd running down to Five Dock Bay, probably 250 metres down the hill to the park, near the south end of the park. Anywhere there and up towards the boat ramp would be great. The jetty at the boat ramp is handy for pick ups/drop offs. I use Woolwich Marina across the water so that is handy.

My previous boat was up in Morrisons Bay and then in Tambourine Bay so I know the tide and winds there aren't always favourable.

If I can get (afford) the house it should be good.

For those of you in Drummoyne I have a non boating question. I will need to build a double garage (I will tell council it is a storage building for my old sportcars) in the back yard of this place. It is ok in terms of hard area ratio to landscaped area but.... the council tell me (most helpful council I have ever dealt with) that the driveway has to be 2.6 metres wide from the property boundary to the house. This driveway is going to be a bit under that, 2.3 to 2.5 depending on how it is measured. It doesn't worry me, early British sportcars are pretty narrow, but I am concerned whether council will be bloody minded and reject a building application for the garage because of the drive.
Do you have any experience of Canada Bay council and how reasonable they are?

Asked people around, all say it is ok. As a matter of course one must be aware of random vandalism in summer time, hot days, lots of non water people come to the shores. Once my kayak was rescued by one of the sailors from my bay, just. His boat is almost in line with mine and on the other side of his unit, the kitchen opens on the reserve where my kayak lives. Talk about luck.
Ah, and my full length paddle was twice vandalised. Now l got a two piece one hidden under the kayak and so far so good. This is all in the last three and a half years. And it is Drummoyne West, Rea Reserve, end of Drummoyne Ave.

What l heard about the wharf at 5dock bay, it is very shallow, but l got no personal experience.
Certainly, the best pick up points are either Woolwich wharf or Dawn Fraser Bath wharf at the end of Fitzroy Ave. Birchgrove, Birkenhead Point Wharf, or Callan Park if you fit under the Iron Cove Bridge.

As far as the council is concerned, l have no experience with them living in the Leichhardt council area. They are usually biddable.
Just make sure you invite the right person for dinner!

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sirgallivant said..
Asked people around, all say it is ok. As a matter of course one must be aware of random vandalism in summer time, hot days, lots of non water people come to the shores. Once my kayak was rescued by one of the sailors from my bay, just. His boat is almost in line with mine and on the other side of his unit, the kitchen opens on the reserve where my kayak lives. Talk about luck.
Ah, and my full length paddle was twice vandalised. Now l got a two piece one hidden under the kayak and so far so good. This is all in the last three and a half years. And it is Drummoyne West, Rea Reserve, end of Drummoyne Ave.

What l heard about the wharf at 5dock bay, it is very shallow, but l got no personal experience.
Certainly, the best pick up points are either Woolwich wharf or Dawn Fraser Bath wharf at the end of Fitzroy Ave. Birchgrove, Birkenhead Point Wharf, or Callan Park if you fit under the Iron Cove Bridge.

As far as the council is concerned, l have no experience with them living in the Leichhardt council area. They are usually biddable.
Just make sure you invite the right person for dinner!

I was around calibration my tiller pilot and l talked to a few guys on boats. The response is positive. All said security is excellent.
The wharf is 1-1.5m at low tide, 2-2.5 at high tide. All estimates.
Also got this pics in the bargain.
She is a beauty!

Looks like AZZURO of S2H and Southport fame.

You know your stuff. Azurro she is!

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sirgallivant said..
You know your stuff. Azurro she is!

An unmistakeable, and beautiful, hull form.

Didn't get the Drummoyne house we were after but still like Five Dock Bay for MB, if she doesn't sell. I have a couple of interested parties but now most of the work has been done it is tempting to keep her until I can get more time to go sailing.

Well you better get a house soon MB. Seems like Sydney house prices are going up at a dollar a minute.

So if an agent has a property listed for a certain price and you put a deposit down and sign the contract at the asking price or a bit more, you should be fairly well assured of gaining the property wouldn't you????

Is auction the only way anything is sold in Sydney??

Your mooring in Pittwater with it's nearby jetty, dinghy storage and parking is pretty damn good except for the travel time getting there. I would not be giving it up unless you can replace it with as good or better. That is the first rule of real estate and a mooring is a kind of real estate holding.

I showed you my mooring spot here in Bundaberg which is now laid and Second Wind is in residence and I just love it. Launching the dinghy at high or low tide is no problem. It is always a little bit muddy but only on the soles of my feet which is easily washed off hanging my feet over the side of the dinghy.

I was on board today and all that crap the previous owner lined her with is mostly gone. Scraping the old glue off is a bit of a bitch but once it is done and she is painted, she will be Mickey Spit.

Sydney areas we are looking at are all auction. We are pretty fussy, we must be near the kids, harbour and we want a particular type of house and land size.
Prices are stable now and have been since last November, quite a few aren't selling at auction. I got an email today on one that they have reduced their price expectation. Just the ones we have been keen on are selling too high for us.
I think we have made the mistake that we picked the suburbs we wanted but there has been very little for sale there so we looked further afield and into more expensive suburbs. As we didn't know those suburbs we were sucked in by the agents lies on price expectations. We just need to be patient and focus on what we originally aimed at.
We have a few possibilities in Croydon and Five Dock only 10 minutes from Five Dock Bay. Others will come up in the suburbs around Summer Hill, the middle of our area of interest.
MB will stay in Pittwater until sold or I get a good spot in the harbour.
I envy you being so close to the boat. I reckon when I only have 10 minutes to the boat my attitude to her will change.

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MorningBird said..
We just need to be patient and focus on what we originally aimed at.

That is the key.

The houses around Five Dock Bay have lovely views; it's a nice little area. The last house on the cul-de-sac before the beach with the dinghies is a big McMansion owned by a plumber (man, wish I'd become a plumber!). The second last house was for sale a few years ago. Original 50's house? Single story. Basic. The for sale sign on the outside had no photos, minimal info from the agent, but in big letters just read, "TURN AROUND". Hehehe.

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DrRog said..
The houses around Five Dock Bay have lovely views; it's a nice little area. The last house on the cul-de-sac before the beach with the dinghies is a big McMansion owned by a plumber (man, wish I'd become a plumber!). The second last house was for sale a few years ago. Original 50's house? Single story. Basic. The for sale sign on the outside had no photos, minimal info from the agent, but in big letters just read, "TURN AROUND". Hehehe.

It is a very nice spot, why the house sold for as much as it did. It was quite a bit above my limit, which was quite a bit above the agents estimate. I would have had to build a double garage in the backyard which added to my costs. Might have to increase my limit!!
It was the first auction we had been to in Drummoyne so a learning experience.
Five Dock Bay is the closest mooring area to where we will end up buying so the advice here is still valuable to me. The dinghies along the foreshore at the bottom of Moore and Dening Sts near Drummoyne oval, I can't see a convenient launching spot. There is a bit of a stair into the water in the seawall but not a good spot. Is there somewhere else they can launch?

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MorningBird said..

DrRog said..
The houses around Five Dock Bay have lovely views; it's a nice little area. The last house on the cul-de-sac before the beach with the dinghies is a big McMansion owned by a plumber (man, wish I'd become a plumber!). The second last house was for sale a few years ago. Original 50's house? Single story. Basic. The for sale sign on the outside had no photos, minimal info from the agent, but in big letters just read, "TURN AROUND". Hehehe.

It is a very nice spot, why the house sold for as much as it did. It was quite a bit above my limit, which was quite a bit above the agents estimate. I would have had to build a double garage in the backyard which added to my costs. Might have to increase my limit!!
It was the first auction we had been to in Drummoyne so a learning experience.
Five Dock Bay is the closest mooring area to where we will end up buying so the advice here is still valuable to me. The dinghies along the foreshore at the bottom of Moore and Dening Sts near Drummoyne oval, I can't see a convenient launching spot. There is a bit of a stair into the water in the seawall but not a good spot. Is there somewhere else they can launch?

Yes, we tried that spot and it wasn't great. Best spot is at Raymond Reserve and beach at the end of The Esplanade. In my opinion, you want your dinghy there and your boat in the area just off that beach.

We had our dinghy above the high tide mark on the beach which gives easy launching, just a little tip-toeing in shorts on the super tides. Trick is to find a spot. Chaining your dinghy is highly recommended. There are some rocks with oysters at the western half of the beach which may not be visible until low tide; this makes keeping your dinghy at that end of the beach more difficult because you have to drag it along the beach to the east in order to launch it. I did that for a while rather than fight for a space with the other dinghies.

There may be dinghy space across the bay at Chiswick, possibly around Chambers Park, if your boat was over that side but I never investigated.

Its interesting to notice how much rudder is above the waterline in Quickpoint Azzuro

MB,

Would you like to sell me your mooring in salt pan cove when you go, to the new abode?

Anthony

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MB,

Would you like to sell me your mooring in salt pan cove when you go, to the new abode?

Anthony

That might work. If you play your cards right with the Boating Service guy you can probably just tie up to it.

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andy59 said..
Its interesting to notice how much rudder is above the waterline in Quickpoint Azzuro

She is probably the lightest displacement S&S 34 in Aus.