I'm familiar with curved travellers in the horizontal plane but I have never seen one in the vertical plane as below on Austral Clubman 8s.

It seems to be a considerable effort to build something like this and I'm wondering if there is really any advantage. Easing the traveller would automatically ease the leach but then that is what the mainsheet is for.

Anyone used one?

As you ease the traveller you do not tension the mainsheet so leech tension remains the same

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lydia said..
As you ease the traveller you do not tension the mainsheet so leech tension remains the same

Thanks. I was thinking that the mainsheet remains vertical so it would actually loosen and increase twist but of course the mainsheet only remains vertical when viewed fore- aft but does move out of vertical as the traveller is eased and therefore tightens when viewed from the side. Seems obvious now as this is the exact same problem that travellers curved in the horizontal plane are meant to address.
Dugh Julian!

The mighty Tasar dinghy has a vertically curved traveller. The great thing is that you can have a central mainsheet cleat and work the traveller with very little change in tension. So the main slides in and out but teh sheet and leech tension does not change. It is a very effective method of mainsheet control in a highly responsive dinghy. It would be similar in a yacht if you cleat the main off the traveller. Or put the mainsheet cleat on the traveller and have more hassle trimming the sheet as the traveller works up and down as well. If you cleat the main off the traveller and use a straight track you alter sheet tension when you play the traveller. Curved is good!

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julesmoto said..
I'm familiar with curved travellers in the horizontal plane but I have never seen one in the vertical plane as below on Austral Clubman 8s.

It seems to be a considerable effort to build something like this and I'm wondering if there is really any advantage. Easing the traveller would automatically ease the leach but then that is what the mainsheet is for.

Anyone used one?

the vertically curved trav is standard on the Clubman. But that one in your pic appears to have been modified and raised using those extra timber packers at each end. A bit odd ?

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Azamagnum said..

julesmoto said..
I'm familiar with curved travellers in the horizontal plane but I have never seen one in the vertical plane as below on Austral Clubman 8s.

It seems to be a considerable effort to build something like this and I'm wondering if there is really any advantage. Easing the traveller would automatically ease the leach but then that is what the mainsheet is for.

Anyone used one?

the vertically curved trav is standard on the Clubman. But that one in your pic appears to have been modified and raised using those extra timber packers at each end. A bit odd ?

Yes I was wondering about that. I noticed the difference to others advertised and of course even more timber is a complete pain in the ass to maintain. It divides the cockpit even more and why would you need more room underneath.
Meanwhile couple more have surfaced in Victoria but I'm not sure I am up for another trip unless I am pretty damn sure they are good. The 2 in Victoria don't have any solar and don't even have a bow roller so presumably no anchors or fridge.

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julesmoto said..

Azamagnum said..

julesmoto said..
I'm familiar with curved travellers in the horizontal plane but I have never seen one in the vertical plane as below on Austral Clubman 8s.

It seems to be a considerable effort to build something like this and I'm wondering if there is really any advantage. Easing the traveller would automatically ease the leach but then that is what the mainsheet is for.

Anyone used one?

the vertically curved trav is standard on the Clubman. But that one in your pic appears to have been modified and raised using those extra timber packers at each end. A bit odd ?

Yes I was wondering about that. I noticed the difference to others advertised and of course even more timber is a complete pain in the ass to maintain. It divides the cockpit even more and why would you need more room underneath.
Meanwhile couple more have surfaced in Victoria but I'm not sure I am up for another trip unless I am pretty damn sure they are good. The 2 in Victoria don't have any solar and don't even have a bow roller so presumably no anchors or fridge.

Most don't have bow rollers, they just have nice cast fairleads at the end of the toerail. Anchor would be in the locker.
Joker looks to have varnished the teak cockpit floor. Pretty sure this would be slippery when wet !!
Some add a refrigeration plate to the built in ice box.
There were 2 different models from memory. The delux model had another bulkhead next to the loo, which gave privacy to the v berth. Might have had leather interior and some other creature comforts too ?
Electric winch for keel is important, so is an electric trailer winch. Unless your are a body builder.

Had a similar traveller on my Lyons 30. Worked well.

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Azamagnum said..

julesmoto said..

Azamagnum said..

julesmoto said..
I'm familiar with curved travellers in the horizontal plane but I have never seen one in the vertical plane as below on Austral Clubman 8s.

It seems to be a considerable effort to build something like this and I'm wondering if there is really any advantage. Easing the traveller would automatically ease the leach but then that is what the mainsheet is for.

Anyone used one?

the vertically curved trav is standard on the Clubman. But that one in your pic appears to have been modified and raised using those extra timber packers at each end. A bit odd ?

Yes I was wondering about that. I noticed the difference to others advertised and of course even more timber is a complete pain in the ass to maintain. It divides the cockpit even more and why would you need more room underneath.
Meanwhile couple more have surfaced in Victoria but I'm not sure I am up for another trip unless I am pretty damn sure they are good. The 2 in Victoria don't have any solar and don't even have a bow roller so presumably no anchors or fridge.

Most don't have bow rollers, they just have nice cast fairleads at the end of the toerail. Anchor would be in the locker.
Joker looks to have varnished the teak cockpit floor. Pretty sure this would be slippery when wet !!
Some add a refrigeration plate to the built in ice box.
There were 2 different models from memory. The delux model had another bulkhead next to the loo, which gave privacy to the v berth. Might have had leather interior and some other creature comforts too ?
Electric winch for keel is important, so is an electric trailer winch. Unless your are a body builder.

Thanks for that. Any idea where they put the compressor and condenser?