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shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter

QLD

2661 posts

30 Mar 2020 9:10am
I've just finished testing a new bunch of thermal CCTV cameras that detect fevers, and the good news is the tech works really well, accurate to within 0.5 deg C. I've ordered hand held and tripod mounted systems, the handhelds need a human holding them where the tripod system is automated. I'm down to two weeks now before the order arrives.
I'm reaching out to the local community to offer testing free of charge. I've got a few friends in the medical profession who are scared witless yet still fronting up every day. Compared to that sacrifice this seems pretty pathetic, but if it's a numbers game, every little bit helps.
Or at least that's what I'm telling myself!
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

30 Mar 2020 5:26pm
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shaggybaxter said..
I've just finished testing a new bunch of thermal CCTV cameras that detect fevers, and the good news is the tech works really well, accurate to within 0.5 deg C. I've ordered hand held and tripod mounted systems, the handhelds need a human holding them where the tripod system is automated. I'm down to two weeks now before the order arrives.
I'm reaching out to the local community to offer testing free of charge. I've got a few friends in the medical profession who are scared witless yet still fronting up every day. Compared to that sacrifice this seems pretty pathetic, but if it's a numbers game, every little bit helps.
Or at least that's what I'm telling myself!


Well done Shaggy
cisco
cisco

QLD

12364 posts

30 Mar 2020 10:11pm
My two nearest neighbours to my mooring have left. Maybe just down the river or maybe further afield.

A well found and supplied yacht sounds like a perfect way to isolate to me.
2bish
2bish

TAS

823 posts

31 Mar 2020 10:35am
In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584
Cav30
Cav30

NSW

121 posts

31 Mar 2020 3:21pm
As sailing is considered a sport, is it then allowed as exercise? If we stick to the 2 person limit etc. My boat is ready to be collected from across the harbour and ideally id like to put it back on its mooring.
Donk107
Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

31 Mar 2020 4:51pm
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2bish said..
In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584



Hi 2bish

Recreational boating is still allowed if it is deemed essential, as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied.

it does say thou as long as it is deemed essential so you might have to make a bit of a case for yourself if questioned

Regards Donk
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

31 Mar 2020 5:27pm
I'm still sailing and when I'm not sailing I'm often out at the mooring or fishing. By myself and in a country town it's easy to be isolated. The only problem I have encountered was today back at the boat ramp where I had to wait to avoid the crowd of 3 people!
Azure305
Azure305

NSW

402 posts

31 Mar 2020 7:12pm
Been at my fave spot in Sydney Harbour for the last 4 days - just got asked this by a neighbouring boatie in the bay - has anyone heard anything about this??

...one of my friends just said that it's a $1000 fine for being on your boat during the covid lockdown. Have you heard / seen anything???

Is this a rumour? or can someone verify it.
woko
woko

NSW

1770 posts

31 Mar 2020 7:30pm
I'd say thats rumour, in nsw you are allowed to leave your home for essential supplies, doc appointments, work and exercise, how could being on your boat be infringing so long as your not flaunting social gathering criteria. I'd class being on your boat as exercise. Surely the authorities have more important issues to deal with like getting ruff sleepers indoors
Jethrow
Jethrow

NSW

1275 posts

31 Mar 2020 7:59pm
Well as of last night you'd be wrong Woko.

Things like SUPing, kayaking and windsurfing have been said to be recreational activities and thus not essential activities. You'd have NO chance of calling staying on your boat as exercise. and it's an $11,000 fine now. Because Waterways now has nothing to do they'll be looking for boaties flaunting the rules all the while the bunches of people are out and about running in pairs and buying takeaway coffies.

I can post a Facebook ruling from Australian Sailing but many won't be able to see it.
Jethrow
Jethrow

NSW

1275 posts

31 Mar 2020 8:06pm
Nup, I can't post the text here. It just gets put in a multiple quotes and it unreadable

See this... www.facebook.com/AustSailNSWACT/
Jode5
Jode5

QLD

853 posts

31 Mar 2020 7:40pm
In Queensland, there is no recreational boating, but you are allowed to use you boat for fishing for food. Looks like we will need to troll a line while sailing
fishmonkey
fishmonkey

NSW

494 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:06pm
so what the hell counts as "exercise" then? are we all supposed to jog around the block?
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:10pm
today heard a 2nd hand description of police in vic telling recreational fishers to go back to the shore
FabulousPhill
FabulousPhill

VIC

321 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:18pm
The Victorian regulations.
transportsafety.vic.gov.au/maritime-safety/newsroom/boating-covid-message
Quote" To be clear, the Premier has described exercise as 'a walk round the block or a bike ride to stretch your legs and get some fresh air'. This does not include recreational boating."
So we all stay at home and get bored by TV, because sailing is too elitist?
2bish
2bish

TAS

823 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:21pm
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Donk107 said..

2bish said..
In Tasmania, YES!!

"Recreational boating is still allowed as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied".

Down towards the bottom of the page at: www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/new-coronavirus-spot-checks-in-force-in-tasmania/12103584




Hi 2bish

Recreational boating is still allowed if it is deemed essential, as long as the two-person limit or immediate family rules are applied.

it does say thou as long as it is deemed essential so you might have to make a bit of a case for yourself if questioned

Regards Donk


Hi Don, I was assuming the exercise aspect would make it possible as long as the two person/immediate family stipulation is observed. What is that ABC statement about then?
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:27pm
I think the thoughts behind the sailing /boating bans are, in case of need to rescue , this then puts rescue teams at risk while being too close in the rescue boat ect .
nswsailor
nswsailor

NSW

1458 posts

31 Mar 2020 9:39pm
In Queensland this was said 7 hours ago....

"According to Transport Minister Mark Bailey, those using boats for essential travel to work or to get items from the shop, or those fishing to put food on the table for their families can still do so."
Chris 249
Chris 249

NSW

3531 posts

31 Mar 2020 10:16pm
How many fishos can actually justify using their boat to get a feed, instead of just going to the shops?
LooseChange
LooseChange

NSW

2140 posts

31 Mar 2020 11:01pm
In NSW the latest blurb from Gladys lists 16 reasons you can leave your home, anything other than the 16 listed could get you a $1000 fine.

1. You're obtaining food or other goods or services for the personal needs of the household or other household purposes (including for pets) and for vulnerable persons.

2. You can't work from home and are traveling for the purposes of your occupation.

3. You're providing assistance or personal care to a vulnerable person.

4. Childcare needs to be attended to - including picking up and dropping off kids.

5. You're undergoing education and need to travel to a learning facility.

6. Exercise is being undertaken.

7. You're obtaining medical supplies or fulfilling a carer's responsibilities.

8. You're attending a wedding or a funeral.

9. You're donating blood.

10. Being outside allows you to fulfil legal obligations.

11. Leaving your home is the only way you can access social, domestic violence, employment, mental health and or services provided to victims.

12. You're moving house or moving business.

13. A child who does not live in the same home as their parents or siblings continuing existing arrangements for access to, and contact between, parents and children or siblings.

14. You're a priest, a minister of religion or a member of a religious order and you're going to a place or worship or you're providing pastoral care to another person.

15. Being outside allows you to avoid illness or injury.

16. You're leaving for compassionate reasons or an emergency.

Number 15 surely allows you to be on your boat if you believe that it's safer there than in the house
Sectorsteve
Sectorsteve

QLD

2195 posts

31 Mar 2020 11:45pm
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fishmonkey said..
so what the hell counts as "exercise" then? are we all supposed to jog around the block?


Yep. You've lost your rights which was the goal. Pandemic or not.
Donk107
Donk107

TAS

2446 posts

1 Apr 2020 1:22am
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Hi 2bish

There are those two words that are a bit of a worry

Deemed essential

Regards Don
woko
woko

NSW

1770 posts

1 Apr 2020 2:23am
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Jethrow said..
Nup, I can't post the text here. It just gets put in a multiple quotes and it unreadable

See this... www.facebook.com/AustSailNSWACT/


That's it in a nutshell then no sailing. Obviously if your in transit and couldn't get to your home port you will have to stay aboard your vessel as the van parks and motels are out of action. Tough times
claverton
claverton

NSW

165 posts

1 Apr 2020 3:36am
Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.
claverton
claverton

NSW

165 posts

1 Apr 2020 3:36am
Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy

NSW

1239 posts

1 Apr 2020 4:42am
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claverton said..
Strict conditions in NSW ... I wonder if rowing out to your boat on its mooring could be considered as valid exercise? Sounds reasonable to me. Not sure if the cops would buy it though.



Someone in our local general store now has the virus.
We had a home deliver last Friday.
I unpacked all items and washed everything I could with dishwashing liquid and then rinsed a couple of times.
We placed the hot chicken in a new bag.
I will use disposable gloves and will improve my system next Friday.
My wife and I don't go out, but we have our daughter visiting who runs any absolute errands.
She has been on holidays but heads back to work in a country hospital today.
Do all the right things, be safe and the great majority of us will be fine.

If you walk, paddle and sail by yourself that is allowable exercise in my opinion.
Yesterday was beautiful on the water.
claverton
claverton

NSW

165 posts

1 Apr 2020 5:27am
Good vid here showing the correct use of a face mask and disposable gloves
www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/31/how-to-correctly-wear-your-coronavirus-face-mask-and-gloves-video

Also, if you have a sewing machine, good vid here showing an easy simple design for making your own DIY face mask
jbarnes85
jbarnes85

VIC

297 posts

1 Apr 2020 8:28am
The below article from ABC News about whether surfing is allowed says:
"The official advice from NSW Health is that surfing is not banned, but it remains a grey area.A statement provided to the ABC said "surfing, like any other recreational activity or gathering . should not be done in any more than groups of two with the rules of 1.5 metres social distancing being followed at all times"."

I dont understand why surfing and kite surfing and other sports would be allowed yet going for a sail with my wife would not be. These people still injure themselves and can need rescuing (I do both).

www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/is-surfing-allowed-under-coronavirus-social-gathering-rules/12103614
Guitz
Guitz

VIC

617 posts

1 Apr 2020 11:52am
To my mind, a blanket rule can not cover all situations it is supposed to address. Some common sense is needed. I have heard in an interview of a senior police officer when answering multiple queries that the Police will be using discretion in the application of all these rules designed to inhibit the spread of the virus. An essential question each of us has to ask ourselves regarding any activity is, if and how might the activity cause the possible spread of the virus. So busy boat ramps on a fine day are a problem. A boat on a mooring and a solitary oarsman not a problem. A crowded bondi beach is a big problem, a relatively remote surf break with a few surfers enjoying the wave, not a problem.
A bunch of people on the marina pontoon having a beer or chardonnay, a problem. One boat owner on his pat malone checking the boat or doing a bit of maintenance, no problem. For the past few weeks this has been my guide.
Now however as we are in stage 3 it is simply if you can stay at home you must stay at home. No gatherings more than 2 people as in family etc. Discretion still needs to be applied but it's getting serious and you will be more likely to cop a fine for bad decisions and especially pushing the boundaries of the advice given by the Vic State Govt.
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