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Anchor dragging monitor

Created by bullrout bullrout  > 9 months ago, 4 Jul 2024
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bullrout
bullrout

QLD

60 posts

4 Jul 2024 7:22am
Anyone use a gps tracker or similar to monitor your boat for anchor drag when unattended?
woko
woko

NSW

1770 posts

4 Jul 2024 7:41am
Someone should come up with some of transponder
Trek
Trek

NSW

1194 posts

4 Jul 2024 8:14am
Wokos right

Theres an Australian made device called Trek Transponder that monitors anchor drag. (And bilge, batteries etc). If your boat drags past your set radius you get an SMS alarm on your phone if you are onshore and a really loud beeping if you are on board. Nearly 1000 units around Australia now.
duncansayers
duncansayers

65 posts

4 Jul 2024 12:42pm
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.
bullrout
bullrout

QLD

60 posts

4 Jul 2024 5:27pm
Yeah the trek looks great
bullrout
bullrout

QLD

60 posts

4 Jul 2024 5:32pm
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duncansayers said..
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.


I think I'll go and buy an el cheapo phone tomorrow for the stay-on-board phone so I can get something happening straight away
julesmoto
julesmoto

NSW

1569 posts

4 Jul 2024 10:56pm
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bullrout said..

duncansayers said..
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.



I think I'll go and buy an el cheapo phone tomorrow for the stay-on-board phone so I can get something happening straight away


Needs to see the sky though doesn't it? Maybe tape it underneath a hatch.
Trek
Trek

NSW

1194 posts

5 Jul 2024 12:39am
They do bur usually can get enough signal most places on board, unless its a metal boat.. You can do the test with a mobile phone that has a real GPS not a WiFi GPS.

If you put the phone where the unit you choose will be mounted and it reads your location ok then the device should work too. Trek Transponder has a much larger better antenna with an amplifier in it when compared to a phone, or for a metal boat an extenal antenna with an amplifier in it, because the location delays you sometimes see on a phone are not good on a boat. Also because it provides an accurate NMEA 0183 output for the free OpenCPN chart plotter.
duncansayers
duncansayers

65 posts

5 Jul 2024 10:20am
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julesmoto said..

bullrout said..


duncansayers said..
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.




I think I'll go and buy an el cheapo phone tomorrow for the stay-on-board phone so I can get something happening straight away



Needs to see the sky though doesn't it? Maybe tape it underneath a hatch.


I've used Anchor Pro with my phone sitting on charge inside the cabin of my boat while I sleep. Works fine.
julesmoto
julesmoto

NSW

1569 posts

5 Jul 2024 9:07pm
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duncansayers said..

julesmoto said..


bullrout said..



duncansayers said..
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.





I think I'll go and buy an el cheapo phone tomorrow for the stay-on-board phone so I can get something happening straight away




Needs to see the sky though doesn't it? Maybe tape it underneath a hatch.



I've used Anchor Pro with my phone sitting on charge inside the cabin of my boat while I sleep. Works fine.


I thought GPS antennae require line of sight to sky. I'm assuming the phone is using triangulation of 4g signals if the sky is not visible. Anyone want to correct me as I could be wrong?
Toph
Toph

WA

1875 posts

6 Jul 2024 9:56am
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julesmoto said..

I thought GPS antennae require line of sight to sky. I'm assuming the phone is using triangulation of 4g signals if the sky is not visible. Anyone want to correct me as I could be wrong?


I use the Anchor Pro app off an iPad sitting at the nav table. On a 6 month sail from Brisbane to Perth we mostly had some mobile coverage and I became reasonably confident in its tracking. We spent 4 weeks in the Kimberlys 3 of which had zero mobile coverage and I don't believe the apps performance was degraded. One day at home, I used the same iPad with same anchor app on and put it on my bed for a few hours. I was amused at the amount of movement. I have a tin roof, and although my bed is close to 2 glass doors to the outside, there is a few metres of tin roofed veranda.

GPS signals for what they do are extremely weak, but I think it is the structure they are under that makes more of a difference.

Oh, and when I say I became 'confident' with its tracking, it generally took at least a day before I was
woko
woko

NSW

1770 posts

6 Jul 2024 12:03pm
I have an old bad elf gps plugged into an even older iPad and it works in the saloon with a steel cabin top, when I turn it on, if it's slow to find enough satellites to operate I take it on deck, when it fires up it it's fine to take below
UncleBob
UncleBob

NSW

1301 posts

6 Jul 2024 2:08pm
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julesmoto said..

duncansayers said..


julesmoto said..



bullrout said..




duncansayers said..
The Anchor Pro app can do remote alerting to a second phone.






I think I'll go and buy an el cheapo phone tomorrow for the stay-on-board phone so I can get something happening straight away





Needs to see the sky though doesn't it? Maybe tape it underneath a hatch.




I've used Anchor Pro with my phone sitting on charge inside the cabin of my boat while I sleep. Works fine.



I thought GPS antennae require line of sight to sky. I'm assuming the phone is using triangulation of 4g signals if the sky is not visible. Anyone want to correct me as I could be wrong?


I have a trek mounted inside a cupboard in the head, totally enclosed, works fine.
duncansayers
duncansayers

65 posts

6 Jul 2024 6:52pm
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julesmoto said..


I thought GPS antennae require line of sight to sky. I'm assuming the phone is using triangulation of 4g signals if the sky is not visible. Anyone want to correct me as I could be wrong?




GPS sends a radio signal with timing data. It uses this timing data to triangulate your location based on the time the signals from the satellites take to reach your GPS receiver. Some material (metal roof etc) will block the signal and you don't get a location fix. Other materials, like the ply epoxy roof of my boat will slightly slow the signal down causing some inaccuracy. A clear line of sight to the satellites will give the most accurate location result.
JonE
JonE

VIC

566 posts

6 Jul 2024 9:24pm
OP - you said "anchored" - did you mean "anchored" as in "moored in its usual location" or literally anchored which kind of implies anywhere - including places with no coverage?
Toph
Toph

WA

1875 posts

6 Jul 2024 8:46pm
JonE, he actually said "for anchor drag", which would imply to me that they are referring to using the anchor and not a mooring.
bullrout
bullrout

QLD

60 posts

7 Jul 2024 7:40am
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JonE said..
OP - you said "anchored" - did you mean "anchored" as in "moored in its usual location" or literally anchored which kind of implies anywhere - including places with no coverage?


Yes anchored when I'm at work, I was thinking of something like a map on my phone I can bring it up anytime and see the boats position, alarm would be a bonus
Ramona
Ramona

NSW

7737 posts

7 Jul 2024 8:11am
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bullrout said..

JonE said..
OP - you said "anchored" - did you mean "anchored" as in "moored in its usual location" or literally anchored which kind of implies anywhere - including places with no coverage?



Yes anchored when I'm at work, I was thinking of something like a map on my phone I can bring it up anytime and see the boats position, alarm would be a bonus


That's what the eBay trackers linked to above do. Just pick one with the features you want. Hooked up direct to your 12v battery they would be ideal for monitoring the mooring security during the upcoming Westerly gales.
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