Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?
I.e. rider leaving beach heading out to sea does NOT have right of way, and must yield / go down-wind to avoid riders already on waves heading towards the shore??
Why is this so hard to understand?

"Common sense" is not common. Logic is a skill that only a few people possess.

More often than not things need to be explicitly taught. Tell them to F-off!!!

Ha ha that's what wave riders get for being in the way all the time

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octo said..
Ha ha that's what wave riders get for being in the waves all the time

Fixed it for you

I thought people leaving the beach have right of way and the show boaters must let them out to enjoy the ocean too.

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PrfctChaos said..

octo said..
Ha ha that's what wave riders get for being in the waves all the time

Fixed it for you

plus they think every bit of chop is a wave so they are always on the "wave"

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THE PIN PULLER said..
I thought people leaving the beach have right of way and the show boaters must let them out to enjoy the ocean too.

Suggest you need to refresh yourself on the 'right of way' rules, when it involves actually surfing waves - not mowing the lawn...
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Right-of-Way-Rules_903070.aspx
If you're not riding the waves, what are you doing in the wave zone?

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danno said..

THE PIN PULLER said..
I thought people leaving the beach have right of way and the show boaters must let them out to enjoy the ocean too.

Suggest you need to refresh yourself on the 'right of way' rules, when it involves actually surfing waves - not mowing the lawn...
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Right-of-Way-Rules_903070.aspx
If you're not riding the waves, what are you doing in the wave zone?

If you're not wasting all the waves and hogging all the ramps on a surfboard then you should be sending it my good man! & cursing every wave hog that you can boost over

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octo said..

danno said..

THE PIN PULLER said..
I thought people leaving the beach have right of way and the show boaters must let them out to enjoy the ocean too.

Suggest you need to refresh yourself on the 'right of way' rules, when it involves actually surfing waves - not mowing the lawn...
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/Right-of-Way-Rules_903070.aspx
If you're not riding the waves, what are you doing in the wave zone?

If you're not wasting all the waves and hogging all the ramps on a surfboard then you should be sending it my good man! & cursing every wave hog that you can boost over

Agree .... totally prefer boosting and yes learn the rules of a tac riding chop and trying to go down wind is not surfing a wave

Great response Garry legend

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danno said..
Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?
I.e. rider leaving beach heading out to sea does NOT have right of way, and must yield / go down-wind to avoid riders already on waves heading towards the shore??
Why is this so hard to understand?

Just as soon as you get some of the try hards that think because they're on a surfboard they can take the up wind , the down wind or pretty much any right of way that suits their line...
Because you know they're on a surfboard so obviously they have some kind of God given priority

And don't even get me started on the tools that don't even look before launching off the beach when I'm riding my twin tip in a wave as they step on their board and take off from the shore directly in my line

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getfunky said..

And don't even get me started on the tools that don't even look before launching off the beach when I'm riding my twin tip in a wave as they step on their board and take off from the shore directly in my line

I like that you correctly described it as 'riding my twin tip in a wave' rather than 'surfing'

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..

getfunky said..

And don't even get me started on the tools that don't even look before launching off the beach when I'm riding my twin tip in a wave as they step on their board and take off from the shore directly in my line

I like that you correctly described it as 'riding my twin tip in a wave' rather than 'surfing'

It's more like 'wallowing on my twin-tip in the wave zone' rather than surfing...

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danno said..
Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?
I.e. rider leaving beach heading out to sea does NOT have right of way, and must yield / go down-wind to avoid riders already on waves heading towards the shore??
Why is this so hard to understand?

If the wave is sick for boosting off, and the twintip rider is holding excellent speed, then he definitely has right of way. Turn around and get the next one you surf style kook.

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wishy said..

danno said..
Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?
I.e. rider leaving beach heading out to sea does NOT have right of way, and must yield / go down-wind to avoid riders already on waves heading towards the shore??
Why is this so hard to understand?

If the wave is sick for boosting off, and the twintip rider is holding excellent speed, then he definitely has right of way. Turn around and get the next one you surf style kook.

Agree with wishy.. if the twin tip is on the wave and going for the boost... give him the gap cause he is gonna land far down wind

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wishy said..

danno said..
Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?
I.e. rider leaving beach heading out to sea does NOT have right of way, and must yield / go down-wind to avoid riders already on waves heading towards the shore??
Why is this so hard to understand?

If the wave is sick for boosting off, and the twintip rider is holding excellent speed, then he definitely has right of way. Turn around and get the next one you surf style kook.

If I'm coming in towards the beach on a wave which I've gone out the back and picked up from 500m offshore, there's no ****ing way I'm giving way to some twin-tip kook who's coming at me from the beach.

Basically it's because you are wrong.... The international rules disagree with your stance on this one. " Riders heading out through surf have R.O.W until they gain riding speed and control to avoid wave riders on a defined break "

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Spitfire said..
Basically it's because you are wrong.... The international rules disagree with your stance on this one. " Riders heading out through surf have R.O.W until they gain riding speed and control to avoid wave riders on a defined break "

Exactly what you said ...
If you're a twin-tip rider, coming from the beach and want to launch off a wave, you clearly have already gained riding speed and control, therefore you must give-way/avoid wave riders.
You do not have right of way to cut-off surfers who are already on a wave from out the back.

I thought the goal was to always be "out of control" and therefore I always have right of way whilst doing my kook-slamming 60 foot Cannonballs ?

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Spitfire said..
Basically it's because you are wrong.... The international rules disagree with your stance on this one. " Riders heading out through surf have R.O.W until they gain riding speed and control to avoid wave riders on a defined break "

Are you advocating that people should be boosting when they are not yet in control?

Title should read Triggered by the twin tip mafia

Giving this thread a bump.

I'm all for sharing the stoke, but so far this season the beginners on twin tips around brighton, scarb, trigg are on another level. Not sure why there there are so many newbies bent on riding right in the surf zones, especially on the days when the swell is up.

The big day just gone on Weds seemed there were quite a few out of control or not giving way in the surf zone, normally not an issue and you can go round, but ffs on Weds no consideration at all given to people riding in on a wave to get out of the way, then when you're trying to get back out a bunch of them seem to think it's completely appropriate to be right up your ass and sandwich you between a 2m wall of whitewater while they attempt their first ever back roll. Having kites nearly dropped on you with decent waves rolling in doesn't make it fun either.

Can we put up some signs telling them to f**k off to woodman point??

In all seriousness,
1. Learn right of way rules, give way to riders on waves and give people room, especially when the waves are up.
2. There are better beaches to learn on, surf zone on bigger days between city beach and trigg isn't for beginners.

Bugger off taka we are trying to Build walls down here send them to the next spot north of you

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Taka88 said..
Giving this thread a bump.

I'm all for sharing the stoke, but so far this season the beginners on twin tips around brighton, scarb, trigg are on another level. Not sure why there there are so many newbies bent on riding right in the surf zones, especially on the days when the swell is up.

The big day just gone on Weds seemed there were quite a few out of control or not giving way in the surf zone, normally not an issue and you can go round, but ffs on Weds no consideration at all given to people riding in on a wave to get out of the way, then when you're trying to get back out a bunch of them seem to think it's completely appropriate to be right up your ass and sandwich you between a 2m wall of whitewater while they attempt their first ever back roll. Having kites nearly dropped on you with decent waves rolling in doesn't make it fun either.

Can we put up some signs telling them to f**k off to woodman point??

In all seriousness,
1. Learn right of way rules, give way to riders on waves and give people room, especially when the waves are up.
2. There are better beaches to learn on, surf zone on bigger days between city beach and trigg isn't for beginners.

lol everyone with a surfboard think has the right of way... no matter if they don't they always give you the look even if they were aiming to slash a bit of chop...

Yup cyclists of the sea

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LuigiKiter said..

Taka88 said..
Giving this thread a bump.

I'm all for sharing the stoke, but so far this season the beginners on twin tips around brighton, scarb, trigg are on another level. Not sure why there there are so many newbies bent on riding right in the surf zones, especially on the days when the swell is up.

The big day just gone on Weds seemed there were quite a few out of control or not giving way in the surf zone, normally not an issue and you can go round, but ffs on Weds no consideration at all given to people riding in on a wave to get out of the way, then when you're trying to get back out a bunch of them seem to think it's completely appropriate to be right up your ass and sandwich you between a 2m wall of whitewater while they attempt their first ever back roll. Having kites nearly dropped on you with decent waves rolling in doesn't make it fun either.

Can we put up some signs telling them to f**k off to woodman point??

In all seriousness,
1. Learn right of way rules, give way to riders on waves and give people room, especially when the waves are up.
2. There are better beaches to learn on, surf zone on bigger days between city beach and trigg isn't for beginners.

lol everyone with a surfboard think has the right of way... no matter if they don't they always give you the look even if they were aiming to slash a bit of chop...

Everyone with a surfboard who is riding in towards the shore on a wave (or large lump of chop, what ever you want to call it) does have right of way .. that's the whole *****g point......

Should read...

Everyone with a twin tip who is riding anywhere at all times has the right of way .. that's the whole brilliant point......

# moaning surfers that mow the lawn and can't jump dot com

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danno said..
Is there any good way to communicate to the twin-tip mafia that now hang out at Scarborough/Trigg, the 'right-of-way' rules associated with wave riding?

We Kite over here like we drive.

Yes, I've also noticed quite an inflation of people with no conditions judgemental skills and sadly hand in hand with no kitesurfing skills it's a recipe for a disaster - For themselves and the others.

However that attitude of Danno there is as sad - You can have as many rules as you can think of but it starts with a respect to the others and being able to evaluate the moment.

If you call every bit of a white water wave and feel like a king on top of the world you're as much as problem as the people you complain about.

So the guy riding the wave on a twin tip, carving turns, throwing buckets and flying over sections is less legitimate than the guy in a safety stance digging his toes into the strapless deck, dodging sections and check turning his way from one side of town to the other...?
Hmmm, what if both of them are wearing bucket hats....?
Although, i hear they are cool now