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DJMWA
DJMWA

WA

345 posts

31 Oct 2015 8:54am
Is it just me or has it been a bit crap?
I know a lot of people thought the El Niño would create epic conditions over here but all my research suggested it would have little effect for WA. It's actually the first time since I started kiting that I have been home at this time of the year so I'm interested to see people's opinions.
Nak.Kiter
Nak.Kiter

WA

16 posts

31 Oct 2015 9:49am
I think its a pretty normal start; we definitely haven't had an unusually good start to the season but we have still have had a couple of strong seabreezes that were around 25 knots when the forecast was for 15-20 knots.

In the last 2 weeks I have had around 4 good sessions, which has been normal for this time of year IMO

I'm hoping the consistency will improve over November and the seabreeze weather patterns

I would look to head north around Lancelin and wedge for good winds during OCT/NOV
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

31 Oct 2015 10:06am
One of the worst starts to the season for sure, all unsettled weather ATM, rain yesterday all overcast today, we had some warm sunny days which usually brings in the sb but just didn't happen, it won't be far off now though, saying that if you had a big kite you'd have had a fair few sessions
MaxVMGRacing
MaxVMGRacing

WA

120 posts

31 Oct 2015 10:09am
Been keeping an eye on this
3pm readings km/hr from BOM, left column this year, right hand for last year.

Oct 2015 www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/IDCJDW6046.latest.shtml
Oct 2014 http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201410/html/IDCJDW6046.201410.shtml

Matt988
Matt988

WA

154 posts

31 Oct 2015 11:16am
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cauncy said...
One of the worst starts to the season for sure, all unsettled weather ATM, rain yesterday all overcast today, we had some warm sunny days which usually brings in the sb but just didn't happen, it won't be far off now though, saying that if you had a big kite you'd have had a fair few sessions



I'm with you been a crap start. No wind in Exmouth when we were there. And been Bugga all since even for my 14. Worked out well for me though as I've been in a header for the last three weeks and haven't missed a thing
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

31 Oct 2015 12:47pm
It's the worst start in the Midwest that I can remember. I was pretty sure that when Matt988 started harvesting 3 or 4 weeks ago that would bring the wind in and I could really piss him off. But even that didn't work! Maybe 1 or 2 decent days.
ChiroTrev
ChiroTrev

WA

62 posts

31 Oct 2015 12:50pm
Lets hope the season comes on strong and lasts until April!!

As for these average winds, dirtbikes and mountain bikes keep the body moving!

Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

31 Oct 2015 12:54pm
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ChiroTrev said..
Lets hope the season comes on strong and lasts until April!!

As for these average winds, dirtbikes and mountain bikes keep the body moving!



Does Crossfit, Netflix and red wine work? Haha
ExSurfCentre
ExSurfCentre

WA

497 posts

31 Oct 2015 1:18pm
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Matt988 said..



I'm with you been a crap start. No wind in Exmouth when we were there. And been Bugga all since even for my 14. Worked out well for me though as I've been in a header for the last three weeks and haven't missed a thing


You guys were so unlucky, we've had great wind since you left

Matt988
Matt988

WA

154 posts

31 Oct 2015 2:06pm
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tgcp said...
Matt988 said..



I'm with you been a crap start. No wind in Exmouth when we were there. And been Bugga all since even for my 14. Worked out well for me though as I've been in a header for the last three weeks and haven't missed a thing


You guys were so unlucky, we've had great wind since you left




That was almost guaranteed to happen. At least eppo didn't get much the week after either haha.
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

31 Oct 2015 2:17pm
Good on you Tom!
Apparently it's also always windy in dongara too haha (sorry cauncy)
Underoath
Underoath

QLD

2434 posts

31 Oct 2015 9:32pm
Crap in QLD too.

I have to use the tides to get a kite in....
default
default

WA

1255 posts

1 Nov 2015 10:38am
Surprised at how warm the water is already. Not a good sign
DJMWA
DJMWA

WA

345 posts

1 Nov 2015 12:20pm
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Surprised at how warm the water is already. Not a good sign



I've noticed that too, thought it was just me. Might be good for a cyclone to track down this way though...
eppo
eppo

WA

9762 posts

1 Nov 2015 1:54pm
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Matt988 said...
tgcp said...
Matt988 said..



I'm with you been a crap start. No wind in Exmouth when we were there. And been Bugga all since even for my 14. Worked out well for me though as I've been in a header for the last three weeks and haven't missed a thing


You guys were so unlucky, we've had great wind since you left




That was almost guaranteed to happen. At least eppo didn't get much the week after either haha.





Hope ya get barley grain in ya jocks Matt!!

See ya when I'm lookin at ya
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel

WA

1397 posts

1 Nov 2015 2:45pm
Haha Matt nearly got burnt jocks... Managed to set fire to the header a couple of times!
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

1 Nov 2015 8:29pm
Nw with rain, in November,
NoobKiter
NoobKiter

WA

1 posts

1 Nov 2015 10:48pm
Correct me if I'm wrong. I though that warm water means more wind.

When the water is warm (usually around 26 degrees Celsius), very rapid hot air rises from the surface of the ocean, the water evaporates then condenses forming clouds and generating huge amount of energy, that's when the strongest winds also come... That's how El Nino that everyone is talking about occurs.

So don't worry, I think this summer will be so windy, hopefully not stormy tho..

Majed


loftsofwind
loftsofwind

QLD

226 posts

2 Nov 2015 7:25am
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Maj said..
Correct me if I'm wrong. I though that warm water means more wind.

When the water is warm (usually around 26 degrees Celsius), very rapid hot air rises from the surface of the ocean, the water evaporates then condenses forming clouds and generating huge amount of energy, that's when the strongest winds also come... That's how El Nino that everyone is talking about occurs.

So don't worry, I think this summer will be so windy, hopefully not stormy tho..

Majed





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Sea breezes occur during hot, summer days because of the unequal heating rates of land and water. During the day, the land surface heats up faster than the water surface. Therefore, the air above the land is warmer than the air above the ocean. Now, recall that warmer air is lighter than cooler air. As a result, warm air rises. Therefore, the warmer air over the land surface is rising. As the warm air over the land is rising, the cooler air over the ocean is flowing over the land surface to replace the rising warm air. www.ndbc.noaa.gov/educate/seabreeze_ans.shtml
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default

WA

1255 posts

2 Nov 2015 7:21am
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Maj said..
Correct me if I'm wrong. I though that warm water means more wind.

When the water is warm (usually around 26 degrees Celsius), very rapid hot air rises from the surface of the ocean, the water evaporates then condenses forming clouds and generating huge amount of energy, that's when the strongest winds also come... That's how El Nino that everyone is talking about occurs.

So don't worry, I think this summer will be so windy, hopefully not stormy tho..

Majed



Warm water kills the seabreeze. We had really warm water (like 26oC) in 2010/2011. Was a really crap season with tropical like weather. WA seabreeze DOES NOT like tropical weather.

DJ is right. The warm water can suck the ex-cyclones down south. While TERRIBLE for kiting, in surfing we can experience those rare long period NW swells. Where rights pop up everywhere and the NW novelty surf breaks fire up. This also happened in the 2010/2011 season. Was a La Nina year.

So hopefully the current warm water is a short term anomaly. November is usually a killer month with the water still cold off the coast.
austin
austin

671 posts

2 Nov 2015 7:51am
pretty normal, it is still spring, no complaints here!
mazdon
mazdon

1199 posts

2 Nov 2015 1:31pm
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Maj said..
Correct me if I'm wrong. I though that warm water means more wind.

When the water is warm (usually around 26 degrees Celsius), very rapid hot air rises from the surface of the ocean, the water evaporates then condenses forming clouds and generating huge amount of energy, that's when the strongest winds also come... That's how El Nino that everyone is talking about occurs.



Majed, you are wrong.

all the plots on the bom pages back up what default is saying. 20deg is pretty warm for right now.
www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/forecasts/idyoc10.shtml?region=10&forecast=1#

but what is more apparent is that it is a solid belt of warm water pushing down, and the eddies that have the cooler water from further offshore of perth that then gets entrained in and fills some of the coastal basins is really non-existent.

pretty obvious push down of warm water between say kalbarri and here. not really what i was expecting either this year...hopefully the current from south of the cape asserts itself in some way soon.
geordieboy
geordieboy

WA

224 posts

2 Nov 2015 9:04pm
Not sure about the tech part of weather but had a sad sesh today at mullas the bigger kites and bigger boards had a ball but I felt theres still a lot of holes and nowt at times fly back at in morn ,,,, maybe next week
Nak.Kiter
Nak.Kiter

WA

16 posts

4 Nov 2015 6:06pm
Looks like the next few days are green green green! I think it has officially started
cauncy
cauncy

WA

8407 posts

4 Nov 2015 6:13pm
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Nak.Kiter said...
Looks like the next few days are green green green! I think it has officially started


Old news, 4 days straight, nice little session out the bay
default
default

WA

1255 posts

6 Nov 2015 7:32am
Pattern looking better next week.. game on
mazdon
mazdon

1199 posts

6 Nov 2015 8:00am
please please don't jinx it!!!

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WA

1255 posts

6 Nov 2015 12:38pm
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mazdon said..
please please don't jinx it!!!



haha, thats usually my call.. but thought I should be positive every so often

apologies if it changes


Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha

NSW

625 posts

6 Nov 2015 4:32pm
Hit Esperance Monday week and got three weeks road tripping. Hope to make it up as far as Exmouth.

Hope to see you guys out there. Put on some nice breeze please fellas.
mazdon
mazdon

1199 posts

16 Nov 2015 4:45pm
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mazdon said..
please please don't jinx it!!!




haha, thats usually my call.. but thought I should be positive every so often

apologies if it changes




see what you did!?!


bluebone
bluebone

WA

20 posts

16 Nov 2015 8:32pm
Winds in Broome have been choice, by our standards, usually flying a 17 at the moment it's all 10 weather
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