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Created by bolzy75 bolzy75  > 9 months ago, 17 Apr 2008
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bolzy75
bolzy75

NSW

5 posts

17 Apr 2008 5:14pm
whats the diference between a kite board and a wake board?
surfingboyo
surfingboyo

QLD

318 posts

17 Apr 2008 11:47pm
abit...
walshd
walshd

SA

601 posts

18 Apr 2008 10:50am
One starts with 'kit' and the other starts with 'wak'
bolzy75
bolzy75

NSW

5 posts

18 Apr 2008 10:44pm
thanks,
bolzy75
bolzy75

NSW

5 posts

18 Apr 2008 10:51pm
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bolzy75 said...

whats the diference between a kite board and a wake board?



nice to see you keep everyone on the same level.



from your other efforts boyo
is it just me Neill, or can i hear sarcasm in your voice. i sure hope not.
Kitehard
Kitehard

WA

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18 Apr 2008 10:37pm
Hey bolzy75,

Don't worry too much about it, everyone is gettin a bit nutz due lack of kiting activity.

A wakeboard is designed to make best use of the curve of the wake behind a boat to get height and pop rom the wake. It is towed by a boat so doesn't need to be hydrodynamically as efficient as a kiteboard. It is towed in usually smooth water.

A kiteboard must be able to ride fast and track upwind efficiently so it needs a flatter section in the middle of the rocker. It also needs more tail flex as we dont always use a ramp to jump. It needs to be lighter and stronger than a wakeboard and also needs bigger fins to hold a straight line in choppy conditions.

A kiteboard usually has footstraps, but can use bindings. A wakeboard almost always uses bindings. Difference is a kite doesn't always stop when you fall off. We jump heaps higher and in some kiteloops it's nice to be able to kick off the board on a hard landing.

I hope this makes sense.

Good winds,



bolzy75
bolzy75

NSW

5 posts

19 Apr 2008 6:41pm
great stuff. thanks
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Kitehard said...

Hey bolzy75,

Don't worry too much about it, everyone is gettin a bit nutz due lack of kiting activity.

A wakeboard is designed to make best use of the curve of the wake behind a boat to get height and pop rom the wake. It is towed by a boat so doesn't need to be hydrodynamically as efficient as a kiteboard. It is towed in usually smooth water.

A kiteboard must be able to ride fast and track upwind efficiently so it needs a flatter section in the middle of the rocker. It also needs more tail flex as we dont always use a ramp to jump. It needs to be lighter and stronger than a wakeboard and also needs bigger fins to hold a straight line in choppy conditions.

A kiteboard usually has footstraps, but can use bindings. A wakeboard almost always uses bindings. Difference is a kite doesn't always stop when you fall off. We jump heaps higher and in some kiteloops it's nice to be able to kick off the board on a hard landing.

I hope this makes sense.

Good winds,






Paradox
Paradox

QLD

1326 posts

24 Apr 2008 3:09pm
and to answer the question that follows from this....

No - it is not a good idea to use a wakeboard to learn to kitesurf with. For the reasons highlighted above you will find it very difficult and your progression will be severely hampered.
rusty7
rusty7

QLD

504 posts

24 Apr 2008 5:26pm
correct paradox, but once you really know what u r doin you can kite on anything ....I saw one of our locals on a wake skate a couple of weeks ago. Just did it for fun. He normally uses an old stiff, finless weighs a tonne liquid force ( think) and pulls off some of the best moves I've seen. The wake skate wasn't really a great board but bloody impressive effort .
For me though ....stick with "kite" board for kiting.
vader
vader

NSW

418 posts

3 May 2008 3:51pm
wakeboards have to much rocker ,therefore wilst learning ,planing will be much harder unless it`s blowing hard.flatter the board the easier it will be to get up and planing.
COL
COL

COL

NSW

554 posts

23 May 2008 9:56pm
I dunno, I've got this old crankshaft that does an excellent job as a doorstop.
I say give it a go, it might just turn out to be the ant's pants!
COL
Rebel
Rebel

NSW

165 posts

27 May 2008 9:23pm
kiteboards are lighter, much softer, flex

wakeboards are heavier, can be very stiff and not much give

depends where your riding.. flat water would be nice on a wakeboard but hell in choppy beach
Travesso
Travesso

NSW

52 posts

28 May 2008 11:26am
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Rebel said...
wakeboards are heavier, can be very stiff and not much give

depends where your riding.. flat water would be nice on a wakeboard but hell in choppy beach


I can attest to this! I have only been able to ride my wakeboard without teabagging in 25knot + frontal winds. I only ride in the surf. My wakeboard is almost impossible to go upwind on. It is a Hyperlite Parks Bonifay Pro 132 which has a 3 stage rocker and sharp ass rails/fins. Given how it grips the water behind the boat I thought it woulda been sweet as for kiting. It pushes so much water though it is almost impossible to plane behind the kite! Granted I'm still learning but I can go upwind reliably on my surfboards... Since losing one of them two weeks ago (check out the lost & found :()I now need to look a bit more seriously at a real kiteboard...
Rebel
Rebel

NSW

165 posts

29 May 2008 11:15am
Wakeboards are really more made for going in a straight line where as kiteboards are made to hold a solid edge and fight against the force of a kite.

Iv riden a few kiteboards in my time
the brands that i would be going for are
slingshot, north, best, cardboards, aboards

With the north boards out of their range you can usually find something that is best suited to your riding..

If your riding in the waves and in choppy water mostly you want something with a soft flex, a stable rocker, and single to double convave.. Also depending on your height and wieght for the size.

I Ride a 07 North Crossride and i have never been on a better board in choppy conditions. It is an amazing all round board. i have rode it on flat water and has a super big pop and carves like a surboard.

General rules when looking for a kiteboard.

Size - depending on height and weight and kite size
Flex - Choppy - Soft flex
- Flat - harder flex (not overall nesecarry)
The softer a flex the smoother your landings are going to be.
Concave - single, double, quad. take your pick doesnt change much except for landings and doing downwind.. as your on your edge most the time..
Edge - solid square edge.. cuts nicely
Fins - BIG for straight feeling.. but if your nutts and wanna ride like a skater.. small fins gives you skatey feeling.. North TFC fins - sharp and big
Rocker - its all pretty much the same between boards.. more rocker - better turning less speed.. less, better speed lesss turning.. but you can jam your board around so you dont really have to worry about this..

For a excellent brand new board you will be looking around $800 - $1000

Cheers Al

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