rode havoc for two weeks loved it best kite i've ridden sick for wake style good depower good upwind and forgiving when needed. then rode hi fis for a week and a half sick for wake style not quite as good upwind but makes up for in speed turning really quick then came to the problem of choosing between them......... rode havoc again then hi fi then havoc on and on anyway both sick kites and can't choose between them. will just have to ride both. also mission board plenty of pop good upwind fast to get on a plane and didn't break. gave it a hiding too. kickers rails waves still survived. 08 lf gear right on the money this year!!!!!! IMPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's hard to pick between the two hey. Both are as impressive as each other.

For sure a hard pick.
Just choose one and i'm sure you will be stoked both are amazing kites, juts back off the water from a 10m Havoc session...KILLER!

flip a coin, its the only way to get a solid choice

Just buy both. You will be really really happy then.