I have found the mystic warrior III is the most comfortable waist harness I have ever had and I have had a few.

+1 for Mystic warrior 3, but with a Dynabar V7 spreader bar fitted, pro wave rope version.

Yeh I'm in the market for a decent waist harness to. But I also need a decent seat harness for those big boost days. Pulled another stomach muscle on my waist the other day to much jumping. Put a seat harness on no probs. tried the ion shorts but they dug up into bottom of my rib cage the top of the harness that is. Do the nitrous shorts do that? Sits nice and low hey.

Mystic warrior hey look into them.

The one that fits you the best i.e. the most comfortable

eppo said...

Rhys Porter said...
Another vote for the Mystic Warrior 3... Super Comfy and will last you a good few years, if not 5...

Eppo - I ride the Nitrous shorts when i'm racing and really like them, don't seem to ride up at all. Maybe try them with the Dynabar?

Okay it didn't ride up the ion, it stays hell low and spreads the load well on a massive boost. But the top ridge of the harness just dug up into my rib cage, was so painful had to put my waist harness back on. Yet the waist harness does give my lower back pain after a while, nothing I can't put up with and when mainly surfing and doing the dog styler tricks its perfect.

Does the mystic warrior give any of you guys lower back pain. Its just enough to piss me off and when kiting like we have days in a row it does compound. If not I will go and buy one now.

+1 for Mystic warrior. I have the 2 and am about to get a 3, not that it has any damage. Anyone know if a warrior 4 is on its way because I was spewing when the 3 came out a few weeks after I bought my 2.

pumpnjump said...
Used to ride with the Mystic Warrior, now ride with the Flying Objects Flight Control, I would not go back to the Warrior, too much back pain and pain under the ribs when boosting a lot, the Flight Control is so comfortable on long sessions and very little riding up.

Hey can you describe in any way why the design of the the flight control reduces this back pain. Also what kite and board are you on? Give me an idea of power delivery is why I am asking. Cheers will look into these as well. Ideally I'd rather go a waist harness I prefer the freedom but the back soreness is a mother Farqer.

I'd consider some of the options of waist harnesses with leg straps instead of seat harnesses. Dynbar just brought one out, North have the transformer. The north isn't that popular but its one of the most comfy ones I've used. I hate seat's but waist slip up because I'm a scrawny bastard with no chest. The leg straps just help keep it down.

pumpnjump said...
I believe the Warrior is too stiff in the mid back, the Flight Control supports the small of your back, whereas the Warrior flattens it out and that is no good for back pain, the Flight Control still offers a lot of support its certainly not soft. I ride both surfboards and twin tips and kite pretty much every day we have wind in Gero, with quite a few long sessions. 14th year kiting.

Ooh you sound like someone who I should listen to then, one your years on the water and two the winds up that way are fierce and you need good support. I will have to look into this one for sure.

What kite do you use man?

Mystic Shadow, can't tell you wearing it, never had any back pain ever and on the 10th boost it does ride up a bit but then so does every other waist harness eventually..........

eppo said...
Yeh saffer have been looking at the dyna bar option. Has it all in one package. Not cheap though hey. Big gamble considering I don't anyone who uses one yet.

Hey Eppo

you should go see puppet at KSS, when I bought my dynabar from him I believe he had a demo, worth a try atleast. ahh and by the way, the nitrous shorts are good, not sure if you'll get the back support you are after but having said that the tow point is very low on your waist so no pressure on the back and they don't ride up in my experience.

Be careful about generalising about back pain.

I suffer from back pain, can't run, motorbike ride, sit anywhere for long periods etc Basically any activity that requires bending forwards

Kiting however, does not hurt it all. I think because when kiting the opposite bending action occurs at the lower back level. Like swimming, it actually provides relief from my back pain. And it helps build my core, which is supposed to help ease back pain as well.

I have used the Mystic Warrior I harness for years and have had no problems

I tried a couple of the short harnesses. Dakine is the most durable, LF is the most comfy but they only last 12-18 months before something goes in them and they start digging into your hips which is incredibly painful. I preferred the LF's as they sit higher than the dakine which feel like they are pulling under your legs but the durability of the LF's was a major issue for me. In the end the north transformer worked out as the best compromise between a waist and seat (height of a waist with the hold down support of a seat), although the colour of the transformer makes it look like someone puked them after drinking a couple of liters of fluro paint.

Ocean rodeo also had a waist with leg straps, not sure if they had a shorts option. The dynabar seems to be a similar concept to the north and ocean rodeo but with the benefit of a pair of shorts and remotely normal colouring. Maybe fluro is popular in europe but personally I don't like my harness to look like I'm trying to be the only kiter visible from space. Can't understand why a simple black or white is not available. At least if I ever get stranded at sea, the sharks may be too scared to go near me on the whole "bright is dangerous" idea from the sea. I may test the jaybar at some point in future to see if it works well as a shorts with waist harness concept.

Addikt said...
Mystic Shadow, can't tell you wearing it, never had any back pain ever and on the 10th boost it does ride up a bit but then so does every other waist harness eventually..........

I got the Mystic shadow youri zoon model. I agree with the above.
Not interested in changing so guess I'm pretty happy

Yep I have an ion waist harness from Aks. It is comfy doesn't ride up but I unlike saffer have a decent chest. Lol. But it still gives lower back soreness due to my obsession with height.

My brother has the ion shorts from same place but they did into my ribs no good for me. Bit yeh nice and low pull. Hence why I have asked about the nitrous shorts and other options. The north transformer and the dyna bar ones with straps sound a good compromise. Also will check out the Flight control pump jump been around a while.