Has anyone got anything on this years Rally. Is it changing much, when it will be here. etc...

You mean next years Rally. No, but I wouldn't think there'll be too much.
They'll have smaller size in the Tyrant though, 5' 11". That'll be a major positive.
Col

Not sure why the **** you would red thumb. Guess it is winter and and anyone i know who would bother to do it are busy sooking about the cold instead of kiting. Anyway for anyone that wants to know Slingshot have added a 9m to the ralleys and Kitepower have just placed there order this week so wont be long for stock to arrive.

Rumour has that theres no changes to the Rally.
Kite co's always claim improvements but sometimes I think its just a marketing thing to get kite turnover ?
Getting so theres little improvement possible on some kites. IMO the Rally would certainly be one of this group. Gotta be one of the most stable easy-to-fly kites out there. Great entry level kite right up to intermediate free-ride and surf. You can be sure if the Rally is not working for you its your skills that need sharpening.

Yes thats pretty right. Similar to the new switchblade. Other than the new bar configuration which is pretty cool, there is little difference to last year.As they say if it aint broke then why fix it.

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puppetonastring said...

Rumour has that theres no changes to the Rally.
Kite co's always claim improvements but sometimes I think its just a marketing thing to get kite turnover ?
Getting so theres little improvement possible on some kites. IMO the Rally would certainly be one of this group. Gotta be one of the most stable easy-to-fly kites out there. Great entry level kite right up to intermediate free-ride and surf. You can be sure if the Rally is not working for you its your skills that need sharpening.

get them to stitch a bigger centre hook loop next to let down valve. i can throw the short lengths of spectra away'. 9 metre would be sweet though

I really like my Rally 12. Would love a 9. Like them better than Octane.

They have changed the nob on the de power to a small t handle. Looks a little easier to pull on than last year if you need a little trim in a hurry. Also the material around the outside lines has been beefed up to avoid wear from the pig tails.

can someone tell me low end for the 8m rally 2011 (73kg surfboard)??

I found this

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procon said...

can someone tell me low end for the 8m rally 2011 (73kg surfboard)??

Mate, a 73kg surfboard won't even float, unless it's really big.
Col

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Ellobuddha said...

I found this

relevance

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puppetonastring said...


Getting so theres little improvement possible on some kites. IMO the Rally would certainly be one of this group.

Big call Pup. 2nd year with a delta design. Look at the Rev2 after the Rev1. Designs will never stop improving. Look at a car, a bicycle, a surfboard.
I'd like to see a shorter bar, & more power without losing agility, & brighter red's, & maybe a flashing light to warn me when I'm doing something stupid. Surely the elastic leash section through the bar can be improved.
Col

Try that one - probably a bit more relevant - sorry

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COL said...

puppetonastring said...


Getting so theres little improvement possible on some kites. IMO the Rally would certainly be one of this group.

Big call Pup.

Yep - on reflection ur probably right.
I have made the mistake before of looking at new gear and thinking 'thats gotta be about as good as it can get'
And I agree too that the bungy on the bar line could be looked at!

I wonder? - where can kite cos. go with improvements to the Delta design now that they are down to no pulleys and really clean straight forward bridles ??
Anyone care to predict .....

Apparently they have changed the tailing edge a bit to help keep its shape and i know some larger riders last year said the found the kite to fold a little mainly on the smaller kites which is suppose to be sorted. One other thing that will be better is the d power handle or t instead of the nob. Much easier to pull on if conditions get heavy unexpectedly.

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puppetonastring said...

COL said...

puppetonastring said...


Getting so theres little improvement possible on some kites. IMO the Rally would certainly be one of this group.

Big call Pup.

Yep - on reflection ur probably right.
I have made the mistake before of looking at new gear and thinking 'thats gotta be about as good as it can get'
And I agree too that the bungy on the bar line could be looked at!

I wonder? - where can kite cos. go with improvements to the Delta design now that they are down to no pulleys and really clean straight forward bridles ??
Anyone care to predict .....

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puppetonastring said...
Anyone care to predict .....

Well, if the evolutionary curve is anything like windsurfing, there will be incremental improvements on proven designs, and then, every now and then a radical divergence that changes the game.

I was on Maui in '96 (at which stage racing equipment had only changed incrementally for 4 or 5 years) when guys came back from the US nationals saying that Ken Winner had won on an 8.0m sail and an 8"6" board (very short for that size rig by the conventional standards) with a completely square tail, enormous fin, and a flexible flap trailing behind the board to prevent air getting sucked down the fin. Nobody really saw that coming, and it was a massive leap forward that was then fine-tuned until the "formula" class emerged. How Ken got the idea I'm not sure, but windsurfing contains many such game-changers.

Radical changes may come in materials, construction methods, overall planform/configuration etc.

3 Kite Design Predictions:

Faired leading edges at least for race/speed kites,

Hybridisation of foil and tube-kite platforms,

Recycled and recyclable materials for canopy, tubes and bladders,

Im 95-100kgs and the only fault I can find with the Rally is the collapsing/folding issue. This only occurs for me when kite is under heavy load in really strong wind when bar pulled in hard. Not a major problem but looks a bit freaky.

When u put that problem up against its light wimd power, relaunch, self landing ability and overall power I rate it highly. Im no expert but happy to stick with them.

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djdojo said...

Hybridisation of foil and tube-kite platforms,

Ahaaa .... now theres an interesting and potentially likely track forward

Foil-shaped bladders with internal tensile membranes (so they don't have to be tubular) will become viable sooner or later. When they do: game changer.

They could be moulded, or possibly even grown using biological engineering within a pre-shaped matrix.

I'm no expert but I know that foil sections are key to efficiency, and whether you want grunt, upwind ability, or stability through highly variable angles of attack, a better foil section may deliver beyond the limits of tube-kite aerodynamics.

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djdojo said...

Foil-shaped bladders with internal tensile membranes (so they don't have to be tubular) will become viable sooner or later. When they do: game changer.

They could be moulded, or possibly even grown using biological engineering within a pre-shaped matrix.

I'm no expert but I know that foil sections are key to efficiency, and whether you want grunt, upwind ability, or stability through highly variable angles of attack, a better foil section may deliver beyond the limits of tube-kite aerodynamics.

Maby you should be working on kite design...

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Ellobuddha said...

Im 95-100kgs and the only fault I can find with the Rally is the collapsing/folding issue. This only occurs for me when kite is under heavy load in really strong wind when bar pulled in hard. Not a major problem but looks a bit freaky.

When u put that problem up against its light wimd power, relaunch, self landing ability and overall power I rate it highly. Im no expert but happy to stick with them.

so the ralleys do this as well? the rev 2 used to do it and it was really anooying, my octanes dont seem to do it though. that just turned me off buying the rally

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jas73 said...

djdojo said...

Foil-shaped bladders with internal tensile membranes (so they don't have to be tubular) will become viable sooner or later. When they do: game changer.

They could be moulded, or possibly even grown using biological engineering within a pre-shaped matrix.

I'm no expert but I know that foil sections are key to efficiency, and whether you want grunt, upwind ability, or stability through highly variable angles of attack, a better foil section may deliver beyond the limits of tube-kite aerodynamics.

Maby you should be working on kite design...

djballbag knows everything, just ask him