^^ OOPS should have put this in the general forum.^^

Is that all you gotta do!!

I wish i 'd have thought of that, DOH!!

Sweet, thanks mate.

Hi guys no 100 percent safe way, but this is the neatest, and 2nd safest way to do this, land the kite on the beach at the edge of the window (prefer you to let go the bar then) it should just sit there,then quite aggesivly pull the 5th line it will fall towards you onto its nose, go up the 5th line to the kite and secure it with sand .Practice it on a light day at first ,and make sure there are no obstacles or people down wind .Any questions give me a call
Have fun George

I started kiting in Feb after taking lessons (and have a 10m rebel too). I mostly kite on my own so have had to learn how to self land in all conditions. I've had a few screw ups, but think I am pretty consistent now.

As everyone else says, bring the kite down on the edge of the window, then briskly pull in the 5th. Sometimes if its windy it can flick on its back down wind a little, but as long as you keep on pulling in on the 5th it flicks over and lands safely.

So I think the trick is once you you've started pulling in the 5th, you dont stop until it is safely on the ground.

Hope this helps

Dave

As everyone else says, bring the kite down on the edge of the window, then briskly pull in the 5th. Sometimes if its windy it can flick on its back down wind a little, but as long as you keep on pulling in on the 5th it flicks over and lands safely.

So I think the trick is once you you've started pulling in the 5th, you dont stop until it is safely on the ground.

Hope this helps

Dave

Works everytime. If you hesitate or stop pulling prematurely weird things can happen though but it's usually just like the kite sliding upside down downwind.

I usually let the kite settle on its wingtip with the bar out for a bit before fully committing to pulling around 3-4 arms lengths of 5th.

Its just like your 1st kiteloop, he who hesitates

^^^ why the red thumbs, just wondering is all??

Best success to land kite cleanly is when pulling the 5th line aggressively, make sure the kite tip is touching the ground. This gives the kite a pivot point or anchor point you could call it for the kite to roll onto leading edge easily, even in descent winds.

Mind you, in good wind, you gotta watch out, be careful, especially with small kites and is usually safer to punch out when kite is at 12 o'clock with 40m of free beach downwind of you. By the time kite gets to the ground, it'll be on its back and ground its self with out too much pressure, then walk up the 5th to secure kite.

cheers,

Robbie

Mitch how much of a pull. Give us a picture of how you actually do it, ie how much do you grab and how hard do you pull, do you keep pulling. ? Honestly I never felt comfortable with it.

My bro has the kite now and I would really like to make sure he lands it the most safe and effective way. Willing to give it another crack and show him.

As for the red thumbs wtf is wrong with you? Seriously wtf? Get ya head in the game ya kooks.

i don't have this kite or a 5th line. so my advice May be moot.
have you tried a tethered launch/land?

that's my prefered method. there's almost no wear on the kiteat all.

if you kite sits at the edge on the ground without bar input without rolling back and launching its self you should be able to teather it.

Dave Whettingsteel said...

At melville on Wednesday night I self landed as no one to catch for me. Winds were light, but gusty. As I pulled 5th kite lightly floated onto back and drifted downwind. I kept pulling on 5 th and a pretty big gust came in and the kite went straight down wind on its back. Of f@@@@ I thought but I kept pulling in and the kite never went pyscho and I grabbed it and landed it.

Was not pretty, but not un safe either I think. When you have hold of the 5th and the other lines are completely depowered I think you have control of the kite.

I'm a newby, but feel this technique works for me in all winds. Probably best in steady sea breezes. If anyone has had a disaster doing this, I would be really keen to hear what happened!

I need to learn more for sure.

Cheers

... this happens because you didn't give the kite an anchor point before you pulled the 5th line. No anchor point and it can drift downwind and do exactly what happened to you, not roll forward but roll back. The cool thing is, as you found out, if you get it wrong all is not lost, you can wait til its dead downwind of you and then walk up the lines.

I still recommend, if you have to self land in descent wind, punch out at 12 o'clock. Probably not recommended with a 4 line style kite, not sure but definetely recommended with a 5th line kite. From 20 to 30m up, it will give the kite time to flip over mid air and fly upsidedown and gracefully land on its back.

I experimented with my Core kite (4 line kite), punched out at the 12 o'clock and the damn thing kept flying, stayed there till I pulled the damn thing back to me, hooked back in and did it again but this time a little to one side of dead 12 and it came down but with a thud and not as eligent as the 5th line style.

Practice make perfect.

cheers,

Robbie

ps bunch of us in Bali doing tricks and what not, bunch of euro's watching very un-impressed, I come in and innocently self land 5th line style and damn did they woohoo, couldn't believe that impressed them, something that I thought everyone can do easily. They had apparently never seen it before and couldn't believe it!!!! I ended up showing them how to do it. I asked them again, are you sure you've never seen this before and they said no one self lands in europe!!!!

Find a tree to land it in works everytime.

why not just use a launch line with a sand anchor or wrapped around a tree?
simply just walk to the kite to edge of window for launch, run up and hook in and away you go. and the opposite for landing

Berg K1t3r said...

Find a tree to land it in works everytime.

why not just use a launch line with a sand anchor or wrapped around a tree?
simply just walk to the kite to edge of window for launch, run up and hook in and away you go. and the opposite for landing

... yeah ya could but your relying on variables that may not be available to you. We have tides that go thousands of miles (well feels like it anyway) and some kites don't stay put, or winds gusty and wrong direction. I know it can work well, you just need things to be right for it to work reliablely!

cheers,

Robbie

been riding Parks the past year and demo'd 2013 rebel for first time yesterday and self landing them waay harder/messier than my 4line park i found.

im sure practise will help but with 4line u can pull the upper middle line to land it smoothly and here u have way less precision i found.. this thread did help me tho so thanks all.

not worth the risk , park the kite pull the safety no dramas, pretty easy in moderate winds self landing but if its up there one day y might get y arse kicked

^^ Yea thank for the great advice mate^^

I did try the quickly pulling armfulls of fifth line trick the other day. It was blowing about 20knts and i had a crack, at first i thought this aint going down and let go. Kite went back up in the air. Second try and i thought i'll pull the fifth hard as and not look at the kite more where i was putting the fifth line, i was worried about throwing the fifth over the bar end and it all turning to shyt if it did'nt go down. Before i knew it the kite was down. Too easy.

Big thanks to everyone that showed me the way.

PS. sup's aint boring, depends what you do on em!!