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Ozone Instinct Sport 2007 - 9m

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Created by KiteDevil > 9 months ago, 7 May 2007
KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
7 May 2007 3:08PM
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I'll keep it simple.
Who, what, where, when:
95kg, 140 Element & 5'5 wave board, 16-32knots Gusting like a pig westerly nasty looking clouds, massive Bass Strait wave Chaos (upto 2x overhead) & a 9m Instinct. ie: 6 hours before the 80 knot front arrived.

Kite History: Naish 2-line, Rhinos, Fuels, Spectrums, Links and others.

Brief Rundown of 9m Ozone Instinct Sport: Stupendously Awesome.

Why?
No pulleys,(after pulley disasters, this is really comforting) light bar pressure, immense but gradual depower, unreal hangtime once you get the hang of it. Oh, and sweet as self land in 30knots too.

My 2 cents?
Rock solid in the air, super stable, flys backwards nicely, gives me a bone when it pulls me out of the way of the biggest waves I've ever seen and this kite actually does what the marketing suggests it should. In fact, this is a seriously under pimped kite, I like that.

Fly one. Decide for yourself, but I like it!




gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
7 May 2007 8:52PM
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Thanks for that review Devil.

I got to fly an 11M in crap light winds for 30 min. thanks to Choicey. I thought the kite was very stable, quick and the bar was perfect.

Think Ozone got some very well designed gear as they come from para glider background. Looking to this brand for a foil at some point.

cesarhanke
QLD, 68 posts
8 May 2007 12:23AM
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KiteDevil... any thoughts about its turning speed? I've flow a 13m in light winds and found the turning speed too slow.

I'm only 65kg ... do you reckon a 7m would be better for me on the waves in +20kn.

thanks

demus
WA, 42 posts
8 May 2007 2:42PM
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Hi All,

I've just become proud owner of an 11m and a 7m Instinct Sport.

Haven't flown 7m yet.

68kg, Board 5'2 surfboard no straps. Used to fly Fuels, spectrums.

11m sport, Gusty 12-22kts onshore 2-3ft beachie.

First impression, kite seems to have slack back lines (Feels wierd at first) got used to it though, also can adjust back line lengths at the bar.
Really have to crank on the bar, in the light stuff, to turn it fast but when you do she turns quickly, smoothly and powerfully. Seems to actually like turning and generates power during the turn not just on the way out of it. I find it much faster and more powerfull through turns than my fuels.
Extremely stable in the gusty ****.
Managed to get it smashed in the whitewater, it tumbled inside out flipped, flopped and then it just relaunched as if nothing had happened, although with a twist in lines.

Haven't had a play freestyle yet but in the surf without straps in horribly gusty frontal **** it did exactly what i had hoped.

Nice kite


Hopefully try it out on my element tomorrow in some flat water.

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
8 May 2007 5:52PM
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Yeah it feels slow to turn in light wind because of the slack back lines, you just have to really crank it, like give it to it, treat it mean in the light stuff. When it gets up and flying, and you're planning along, the steering 'tightens up', if you know what I mean.

I haven't riden the 7m but if your 30kg less than me on a board with some volume, then yeah the 7m would suit you Mr Hanky.

Just pulled out the 13m, just awesome too. The jumps are fantastic.

[}:)][}:)][}:)]

cesarhanke
QLD, 68 posts
8 May 2007 5:53PM
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Look forward to your review on the 7m!! What wind speed are you expecting to use it from?

Let us know how it goes on kiteloops!

cheers

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
8 May 2007 5:59PM
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I forgot to mention how well the kite goes upwind. It's mindboggling. Like nothing I've riden before... well maybe a bit like the old North Rhino2, when you could hold it, it would steam upwind, but the instinct honks upwind with the added bonus of being in control when the gusts hit you. [}:)]

demus
WA, 42 posts
8 May 2007 4:49PM
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I hope to use the 7m from about 18-30 on surfboards and about 20-mid 30's on a 134 element with unions.

I've watched a mate riding a 7m sport in up to 43kts. No ****, I was standing on the beach with a wind meter trying to stand up!
It was incredibly stable even in those conditions. He's got a few kg on me though so I think I'll stick to the low to mid 30's.

I was still riding fuels at that stage and was sold after seeing that.

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
20 May 2007 11:28AM
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Guys i have the 13m Sport and im loving it like Elle Mcpherson i have a question, what technique are you using to self land ?
Also are you guys using the Oh **** handle for gentle power ups after the kite luffs ? Maybe ure pulling it to self land ?
And if i drop the kite on the water and do not pull the bar or leader lines, (say i need a rest! im getting on a bit !) is there still a chance the kite could launch on its own and shoot me down wind?
Hey guys with the instincts make sure that velcro tie that holds the oh **** handle is actually IN the oh **** handle and NOT on the oh **** handle line!!!! i made this mistake and there is a good chance the line gets stuck on the rings and will not flag out. I pooed when i done this the other day so be warned !

Hope these arent to stupid a questions...this will be my 3rd time out today after lessons. Thanks in advance Jip

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
20 May 2007 8:27PM
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Hey Jip, that's funny man. No it wont take off if you don't pull the bar in, but it might roll around and get eaten by the surf. Have a rest with it above your head.
Self landed in 30knots, flew about 5m above the beach and ditched the lot. The safety on the top front line, bought it down sweet. I ran like a banshee to secure the kite all the same!
Yep, velcro thing is true, I sort of loop it up a bit so only half the velcro is attached and it comes apart easier. Esp in light winds it's important.

Flew the 13m in 14-20knots today with a nice 3-4 foot swell at Devonport and just about blew my load it was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good! I got spanked for being cheeky but, busted three top turns on a wave (best effort yet) also dropped it in front of a wave..... Whoops! It went through the deep rinse cycle, draggin me with it, flew inside out and backwards, about 12 waves would've hit it, then got it's act together and re launched a treat.

I am soo super stoked on this kite words cannot explain...
Awesome.... unreall... ACE! yep they can't even BEGIN!!

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
20 May 2007 11:12PM
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Yeh it certainley seems like a fantastic kite i wish i was a better kiter so i could really appreciate it ! it still freaks me out when the lines get crossed and the leash goes over the top of the trimmer strap.....im a born worrier i guess ! but i would have any other kite .......looks and feels sooo smooth. i just need less fear and more confidence 4 th time out today and had my smoothest take off yet! keep me informed of your findings Devil ! also can you explain what the 5th line actually does ? and is it a good idea to land the kite by pulling the OH Poo red handle manually ? good kiting mate !

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
21 May 2007 5:28PM
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In light enough wind or with some practise, you can land it pulling the red handle, as long as it's on the upper front line when bringing it down. It takes a bit of practise and a long arm.
The trimmer does spin around doesn't it. Bit of a prick sometimes actually, but reaching up and twisting at the swivel usually undoes it all.

The 5th line is a secret aeronautical thing that pulls differnt parts of the kite in different parts of the turn and trim and wind and all that, and really, i don't 100% know. But, by christ it does something pretty damn good! Maybe someone else could explain how the ozone 5th and bridle all work?

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
21 May 2007 11:01PM
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Yeh perhaps someone could expain the fith line mystery
Lovely looking kite too ey ! i got the orange one
My bar insert doobry wosit is rusting already though
ah so you kinda get freaked by the trimmer strap too hehe....i found out the other day that you can undo the bottom of it an untangle it easy ! its on a secret bit of velcro mate !
yeh my bar spins i just had a bad experience with crossed lines with a 3.5m land kite so im a bit wary.

Macca Wollongong
NSW, 295 posts
22 May 2007 12:08PM
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the 5th line isnt a mistory for us who bought the original ozone, we are all well and married to it.

The 5th line trims in when you trim the center lines in at the secerte aeronautical figure of 2:1 i beleve it was.

The trick to self landing fly to edge of window and give huge pull on 5th line. It shoud land on its LE face down. if its not to windy.

demus
WA, 42 posts
22 May 2007 3:51PM
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Macca I think what Devil was getting at was the way the fifth line bridle pulls different tension on different parts of the leading edge as the kite turns. Somehow creating more power in the turn?

Did you have the 06 instinct without the 5th line before putting it on? If so was there much difference in turning performance pre/post 5th line?

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
22 May 2007 8:49PM
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Seems to be a bit of confusion here....maybe I can clear things up a bit..
The Instinct has always used 5 lines.
The 5th line safety was released as a kit after the 06 Instinct was released.(maybe that's what you're thinking of)
I have the 06 kites with a frontline safety like the new ones.
Self landing is really easy with the frontline safety.
I fly the kite to the edge where I want to drop it, ideally somewhere I can walk around more upwind of the kite once landed, flagging to either the upper or lower frontline both work fine, I prefer to lay it on its back by flagging to the lower line in stronger winds. Walk upwind of the kite a bit, keeping tension on the line, and walk to the kite hand over hand.
In lighter winds drop it nose down by flagging on the upper frontline.

What's the mystery? The 2-1 5th line trimming system is the unique thing...

Seems there's some interesting trimming options for the new instincts on kiteforum, check panchito's posts.

Anyone using the Light in smaller sizes? 9 or 7? Reviews sound good, wondering if theres any local knowledge...

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
23 May 2007 4:32PM
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panchito has deleted all his posts on the kite forum .... i wonder why ?

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
23 May 2007 4:46PM
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Yeah, interesting....
Looks like the gist of what he was trying was extending the front lines about 5cm, another thing was shortening the 5th, caused the kite to turn more on it's axis....
The idea of putting some short pigtails on your front 3 lines and experimenting seems like the go, but in light wind..

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
23 May 2007 9:14PM
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It flys upwind much better when sheeted in half way.

The whole 5th line thing looks loose when overhead, then when powering through a turn you can see the bridle pulling on different parts of the LE. How that works is what i thougt the mystery was.

I'll give more feedback soon... NW 30-40 Kn Gale Warning and 4-5m seas tommorrow!!

If I don't then it's been fun![}:)][}:)]

mc
NSW, 357 posts
26 May 2007 9:25AM
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kite devil

I'm thinking of getting a 13 or 15 sport, any idea on wind range of these 2 kites i'm 85 kg and ride an flx 132 and also a slingshot fuse for the surf. I was with the rep of ozone at christmas on holday and he mentioed they had design issues with last years product due to the front lines linking both sides of the kite getting rapped up in the surf when you ditch the kite, i notice they have kept the same lines this year to prevent inverting, have you noticed any issues with this??, also how fast do the kites turn, all makes say that are fast but once you get towards 15m in size they all seem to lose so much performance?, Do they pack well into the bag and are they easy to rig, I'm always in a rush, also i don't like BOW kites and prefer the feel of a C kite, how does this kite compare.

any help would be good, i really don't want to buy another kite without a good recomendation and trial?.
thanks

demus
WA, 42 posts
26 May 2007 8:05AM
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Hi Mc,

I can't help you out much with the 13 or 15 but I can discuss the line issues that you've raised. This has happened to me in very light wind one day.
The kite was leading edge down, directly down wind, but with the top of the kite facing me, ie it needed to turn around to re-launch. as it went around the far front line got hooked on the pigtail joining the closest front line to the kite. It just stopped the kite turning around but after I pulled a few different lines it came free without any dramas. I've dropped this kite in 3-4 foot surf, had it tumbled, and had no troubles with it. I've also stacked it in flat and choppy water a few times, had the kite turn around and had no hook up issues. The line pulls straight past as there's wind in the canopy.

I think my experience with the hooking up incident was purely due to the light winds, after all the only thing the line hooks on is the pigtail attachment point so when any force comes on the kite it free's itself. I don't think that this is an issue worth loosing any sleep about.

This is a well designed kite, very stable, very powerfull, very fast.



KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
27 May 2007 11:35AM
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I'm alive [}:)] And the conditions were off the show. It hit 38 knots at Devonport and the local Airport was saying 32knots, but in a NW it sits behind a mother great rock called Table Cape and the white caps were getting flully blown off, so I dunno but it was BLOWING!
I had full depower on the 9m and pulled some of the maddest jumps of my life in the overhead surf. It was seriously blowing, and the kite was rock solid, never once did it hint at misbehaving. More c kite like to control in these winds, eg: edgeing hard.

MC: Went out yesterday with a guy on a 15m and me on 13m. Both of us were staying upwind and similar boards and weight. Probably dropped down to 12kn in the lulls, it was hard to see the advantage in the 15 in the lighter winds coz it turns slower. The 13 turns 'quick enough', eg: you're not constantly asking it to turn quicker, you're backing off first, if that makes any sense. The 9m is really, really quick, but you'd expect that.

Packs away a treat. Got a strap to hold the kite, bag is plenty big enough, get awesome repair kit with sail tape it that actually works, even a sand bag you fill with sand to hold the kite down in the carpark etc! Oh and a keyring.. yeah pimp that ride.

Haven't had invert lines get in my way yet. You can take em off if you like. This kite has hands down bought a damn big smile back on my face and a huge confidence boost in not having pulleys.

Go for it MC.

mc
NSW, 357 posts
27 May 2007 11:54PM
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thanks for the update , just one question more, a few people have mentioed that the back line's seem long straight out of the bag and many seem to be playing with the kite lines to get it right, any problems with you or was the 13 good straight from the bag, also does the kite feel more like a c than a bow , which i think it should looking at the spec,

thanks I'm nearly getting the $ out

Macca Wollongong
NSW, 295 posts
28 May 2007 5:33PM
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To give you an idea on the wind ranges on the ozone kites my 06 11m i could fly from 12knts with a big board to 30 knots in my 125 best drive. (60kg)

I cant say i have ever seen the 5th line pulling during turns, i dont see why it should when trim is all the way out, it is slack slightley but then again the 06 is a different 5th line set up on the LE.

Also on the 06 trimming options i have carried out this mod on my kite, you add a 2nd attach point on the TE and make a Y bridle up for the steering lines, This mod was the best $100 i ever spent!!! made my 06 fly so so much faster on turns

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
30 May 2007 6:10PM
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Yes, the back lines look and feel a little odd in light wind standing on the beach, but get going on the water and it all feels really right. You can fly this kite one handed fully lit up, so I liken it more to a C kite than a bow because; the depower isn't ON/OFF, the bar pressure is light and good and the jump technique is more c like than bow... oh and it doesn't have ANY pulleys.

Everything is great straight out of the bag.

For down here in Gusty Roaring 40's land it is the Schnizzel.


Macca Wollongong
NSW, 295 posts
31 May 2007 3:58PM
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quote:
Originally posted by KiteDevil

oh and it doesn't have ANY pulleys.

Everything is great straight out of the bag.

For down here in Gusty Roaring 40's land it is the Schnizzel.



WORD!

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
27 Jun 2007 4:45PM
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Hey guys hope all is hanging as it should !
I have managed to get out on my 13 sport 4 times now in light winds i am 95 kg 181cm.on a 140 Shinn board ..i think its 40wide.
Do you guys have any particular set up Trim & handle trim strap adjusters for winds between 12-15 knots ?
In my very limited experince i am still finding it hard to stop sinking after i turn to go across wind.
Any techniques you fellas could give me with regards to keeping the kite in that power zone and planning would be cool and appreciated.
I am riding with the trimmer set about 1 inch of full power and the handle adjusters on factory white line.

KiteDevil
TAS, 778 posts
27 Jun 2007 6:28PM
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I'm riding the 13m in low winds with the red ball up against the bottom of the cleat, ie slightly pulled in. Adjusters are set to the white line too. Seems the best for now.

To do quicker transitions watch a DVD or something to see how it's done, and keep practising! One day you could try downlooping, that'll make your turns quicker!

tobes
NSW, 1000 posts
27 Jun 2007 8:17PM
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JiP, sounds like you're treating the kite right, you want it to speed up in light winds. Are you sinking when you change directions? Keeping your speed up is the trick, and following the kite through the turn. Hard to explain here, I'm sure it'll click soon. In light winds it also helps to build board speed at the start of a tack, and concentrate on edging upwind after you're moving.

Macca Wollongong
NSW, 295 posts
28 Jun 2007 9:48PM
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May or maynot help, but i ride my 1st gen with the trim fully out till about 23knts then pull it in to suit after.

Man i got out for the 1st time in 3 months last month and its amazing how much power i could handle in summer kiting once or twice a week, after 3 months of no wind i sucked, and couldnt handle no trim in 22 knts LOL

JiP
NSW, 130 posts
29 Jun 2007 12:24AM
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quote:
Originally posted by tobes

JiP, sounds like you're treating the kite right, you want it to speed up in light winds. Are you sinking when you change directions? Keeping your speed up is the trick, and following the kite through the turn. Hard to explain here, I'm sure it'll click soon. In light winds it also helps to build board speed at the start of a tack, and concentrate on edging upwind after you're moving.


im sinking because the kite seems to get to the side of the window to quickley, i dont seem to be able to keep her in the power zone. I put the kite too 1 ....2 o'clock send her across to 9...10 0clock with bar pulled in then i trey my first powerstoke to keep going but at this poit i just seem to sink



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