75kgs, riding for 3 years, freestyle/wakestyle, loops

Fly switchblades 10m and 7m
WHat quiver should I be looking at? Want to kite from say 15knots to 35ish knots (standard range i guess)

Thinking 11m and 7m? Or should I opt for an 8m instead

Does the 11m still loop and catch or too slow?

Will be demoing shortly...

p.s any input forked?

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Big eeeZeee said...

75kgs, riding for 3 years, freestyle/wakestyle, loops

Fly switchblades 10m and 7m
WHat quiver should I be looking at? Want to kite from say 15knots to 35ish knots (standard range i guess)

Thinking 11m and 7m? Or should I opt for an 8m instead

Does the 11m still loop and catch or too slow?

Will be demoing shortly...

p.s any input forked?

11M and 8M and yes the 11M still loops with no stalling and will catch you no worries. The C4 is an excellent kite for your style of riding. Let me know if you have any trouble getting a demo?

eeezeee, my new 12m and 9m should be arriving today. if the forecast NW happens tomorrow i'll be at brighton and you're welcome to have a spin. (look out for the bright red c4)

Me 75kgs, riding for 4 years

Have had 2010 switchblades 12m and 9m, they are definitely more grunty than the C4.

I bought 11m and 8m 2011 C4's.

Wind range on a TT 14kn to "I dont know yet" as haven't had any nucing wind this summer.

I'd go 11/8 over 10/7

i have a 2011 C4 2 kite quiver, 8 and an 11, get a great wind range, from these 2 kites, if your a little bigger maybe a 9 + 12,
the 11m meter will loop and catch u no worries at all plenty of speed

11 and 8

No need for 7 unless you ride a surfboard lots... 8m can be held up to stupid winds - i've seen 39-40knots on the 2011 8m...

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Rhys Porter said...

No need for 7 unless you ride a surfboard lots... 8m can be held up to stupid winds - i've seen 39-40knots on the 2011 8m...

I could hold my 7m switchy to 39-40. Are you sure I could hold an 8m? Only thing if I could hold it is, how much fun could I actually have?

I change my mind :) 7m for those winter winds of 30+ knots... the 8m in 40 was NOT the most fun, i just said i've seen it done lol [}:)]

What's the 'sweetest' sized kite in the 2011 c4 line up? I'm guessing it would either be a 10 or 9?

I love the 9.
I still have the 2010 9m too, couldn't bring myself to let it go.
I think 11 and 8 if you want to replace your switchblades.

Is there much difference between 11m and 12m low end?

9 is hands down best size.

and rhys i got to call bull**** on your 40knt claims.. a consisten 39-40 = gusts near 50 = you'd be on a 6 at least.

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Charl dv said...

9 is hands down best size.

and rhys i got to call bull**** on your 40knt claims.. a consisten 39-40 = gusts near 50 = you'd be on a 6 at least.

QLD wind perhaps?

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Charl dv said...

9 is hands down best size.

and rhys i got to call bull**** on your 40knt claims.. a consisten 39-40 = gusts near 50 = you'd be on a 6 at least.

I've got to call bull on your bull, and raise you some facts, cos I've done it.
This was in winds averaging 33/35, but we as we kited closer to Kurnell at the eastern end of Towra in Sydney on a black NE day, we definitely got some 40+ knots gusts.
It was not that much fun, I was not worried about it too much because I was well offshore with plenty of room and the experience to know what to do. We kited for approx 2 hrs and at times in the gusts I experienced some "t-bagging". I would be edging like hell and a bit more wind would hit me, on a couple of occasions it was so strong that the kite dragged me of my edge and then I was lofted approx 1-2M and 15-20M downwind. I just stayed focussed on steering the kite slight to the side and above me until it depowered and I was able to regain an edge and keep kiting.
Col and I both did some of the most amazingly large jumps that day, some of the best for the whole summer.
Kite was an 8M 2011 C4, board was a 1.36 Cab custom and I weigh approx 78kgs wet.
The small Ozone C4's are awesome in strong winds, super stable and confidence inspiring for experienced riders.

Ok. So finally got a demo after weeks of stuffing around. Now just need wind

3 questions:

Which is the wakestyle setting? Knot closest to LE or furthest away?

A stupid question. But how does the pressure gauge take a reading when there is a oneway valve on the kite????? There's no pressure being put on the gauge as air only travels in the one direction, thus it does nopt give any reading. Am i missing something

How are wake/freestylers riding with the CL? You guys attaching another loop to the mini 5th and connecting your leash to the CL &mini 5th. So you can still flag the kite and ride suicide. make sense?

Thanks in advance

oh, and the quality and detail is PIMP. Like no other manufacturer i've seen

Hey Will, wakestyle is the knot closest to the leading edge. I haven't tried this setting yet due to a knee injury.

I don't use the pressure gauge and haven't analysed it so no help there.

You can't un-spin the front lines if you use the flagging ring for your leash. The stainless leash ring within the chicken loop doesn't attach to a line so if you use it, you're technically suicide but with a lot of depower at the bar.

If you were ever in trouble on the suicide setup, it only takes a second to unclip the leash from the CL ring and clip onto the flagging line, so long as you have your wits about you. If time or circumstances don't permit this and you're really in trouble you release the kite.

And YES the quality and attention to detail are joys to behold!

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djdojo said...

Hey Will, wakestyle is the knot closest to the leading edge. I haven't tried this setting yet due to a knee injury.

I don't use the pressure gauge and haven't analysed it so no help there.

You can't un-spin the front lines if you use the flagging ring for your leash. The stainless leash ring within the chicken loop doesn't attach to a line so if you use it, you're technically suicide but with a lot of depower at the bar.

If you were ever in trouble on the suicide setup, it only takes a second to unclip the leash from the CL ring and clip onto the flagging line, so long as you have your wits about you. If time or circumstances don't permit this and you're really in trouble you release the kite.

And YES the quality and attention to detail are joys to behold!

Thanks Brendan.

It's funny that ozone don't mention anywhere, exactly which setting is what. Not in the manual or their website. strange.

Don't mind riding suicide, just nice knowing you can release in a real emergency when there's no time to unclip/clip.

Someone tell me why they supply a gauge when the one-way valve overrides it?

OH, and my favourite feature is the line winders on the bar! They retract when you run your lines out. SICK hahaha

The one way valve opens when the pressure in the hose is equal to the leading edge so the gauge does read the LE pressure correctly. If your gauge is showing zero then it is probably faulty.

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Kitepower Australia said...

Charl dv said...

9 is hands down best size.

and rhys i got to call bull**** on your 40knt claims.. a consisten 39-40 = gusts near 50 = you'd be on a 6 at least.

I've got to call bull on your bull, and raise you some facts, cos I've done it.
This was in winds averaging 33/35,

i rest my case

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Slack said...

The one way valve opens when the pressure in the hose is equal to the leading edge so the gauge does read the LE pressure correctly. If your gauge is showing zero then it is probably faulty.

i was going to say this but you better hope like hell your pipe is perfectly sealed otherwise you're getting an inaccurate reading. besides this kiters should all know how to check pressure without a gauge

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Big eeeZeee said...

Thanks Brendan.

It's funny that ozone don't mention anywhere, exactly which setting is what. Not in the manual or their website. strange.

Don't mind riding suicide, just nice knowing you can release in a real emergency when there's no time to unclip/clip.

Someone tell me why they supply a gauge when the one-way valve overrides it?

OH, and my favourite feature is the line winders on the bar! They retract when you run your lines out. SICK hahaha

The two settings are mentioned here
ozonekites.com/products/water-kites
It is an oversight that they are not mentioned in the manual, we will fix that!

Most people will prefer to fly the kite on the outer setting, the inner one makes the kite less reactive and better for unhooking and for doing wake/newschool stuff.

The gauges work fine as as has been explained by others, but I never even look at it even if there is one on the pump I'm using. You should inflate a kite until the leading edge is firm and hard to bend when you put one end of the LE on the ground and try to bend the LE.
Have fun they are awesome kites!!

Id like to have a C4 quiver that will allow myself (75 kg w/o gear, experienced 7 years) and my girlfriend (65 kg w/o gear, intermediate) to kite in 14 to 25 knots together and then I would use her kite in higher winds… what would you recommend for quiver sizes for the C4? Would a 12/9 combo or 11/8 be better for our weights?

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Charl dv said...

Slack said...

The one way valve opens when the pressure in the hose is equal to the leading edge so the gauge does read the LE pressure correctly. If your gauge is showing zero then it is probably faulty.

i was going to say this but you better hope like hell your pipe is perfectly sealed otherwise you're getting an inaccurate reading. besides this kiters should all know how to check pressure without a gauge

If the hose is leaking then you just have less pressure in the hose per pump action, the gauge will still read the actual pressure.

haven't used a gauge in ages just pump it up till it's hard

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Slack said...

The one way valve opens when the pressure in the hose is equal to the leading edge so the gauge does read the LE pressure correctly. If your gauge is showing zero then it is probably faulty.

Pumped it again and yes the gauge does work! Just didn't pump it hard enough last time as I was just scoping the kite.

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Charl dv said...

Slack said...

The one way valve opens when the pressure in the hose is equal to the leading edge so the gauge does read the LE pressure correctly. If your gauge is showing zero then it is probably faulty.

i was going to say this but you better hope like hell your pipe is perfectly sealed otherwise you're getting an inaccurate reading. besides this kiters should all know how to check pressure without a gauge

Yeah no gauge needed although I wanted to see what 8 PSI felt like. I don't think i'll pump to this pressure as it's almost too firm in my opinion. 7psi is still pretty rock hard and should do the job...

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Munta said...

Id like to have a C4 quiver that will allow myself (75 kg w/o gear, experienced 7 years) and my girlfriend (65 kg w/o gear, intermediate) to kite in 14 to 25 knots together and then I would use her kite in higher winds… what would you recommend for quiver sizes for the C4? Would a 12/9 combo or 11/8 be better for our weights?

Get the 11/8 and a 45kg girlfriend

I dont know of anyone here that owns a 6m C4 and i know i have watched some guys riding 8m C4's in 35 to 40knots but maby i was seeing things?????

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Charl dv said...

9 is hands down best size.

and rhys i got to call bull**** on your 40knt claims.. a consisten 39-40 = gusts near 50 = you'd be on a 6 at least.

What is it with all you blokes that reckon you can't hold these kites in high winds!!!! I ve seen Rhys on my kites in high winds and i weigh 20 kilos more than him. Check out the kitepower photos of Rhys and Josh on my 11m C4 last year in 30 plus knots....and yes they were on it together (at the same time with a 20m ski rope between them) we needed to hold Rhys down on the beach ....yes it might be a bit scary for most but it is done. And yes you are pretty much limited to what you can do. But where we kite there is always plenty of very experienced guys keeping an eye on each other and always there when guys need a bit of help. For the locals who call B/S come to queens next time its really cranking and see for yourself. I am not suggesting it the right thing to do and certainly don't recomend it to others. But there are some amongst who actually enjoy being seriously powered up.
And anyone who knows Rhys and how he kites can confirm he is very able to back up anything he says.

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Munta said...

Id like to have a C4 quiver that will allow myself (75 kg w/o gear, experienced 7 years) and my girlfriend (65 kg w/o gear, intermediate) to kite in 14 to 25 knots together and then I would use her kite in higher winds… what would you recommend for quiver sizes for the C4? Would a 12/9 combo or 11/8 be better for our weights?

12/9 will be perfect.
I have 15M/13M/12M/11M/10M/9M/8M and 7M C4's in demo and use them all myself, I weigh the same as you, but I don't have a 65kg girlfriend yet...