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My Comments: First pictures ? The Hadlow edition should come with a special 6 lines bar, and only in this colour. The second color for the classic edition should be the same as the Hadlow, with a different serigraphy: "Won't stop Vegas".

It says "CAN'T STOP, WON'T STOP"

bahahahaha

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default said...
It says "CAN'T STOP, WON'T STOP"

bahahahaha

Gay slogans 'invented by north'

been a new design you expect the entry price to be slightly cheaper?

Colours look like ****!!

Not commenting on the colours or graphics, because this happens every year... but at least it's no longer "superfantastic"

Should have a 12m demo kite here in WA in a few weeks. On the bar, you can ride either kite with the standard North 5 line bar. There is a wakestyle bar for 2015 that has the option of being ridden in 5line or the Hadlow setup and a few extra features that make it better for the freestyle crew out there.

I wish their graphics weren't so fugly, cos I really like how the Vegas feels to fly!


Oh well, I guess it's another year of patching up my 2010 model and praying it makes it through yet another season...

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Drewm said..
Not commenting on the colours or graphics, because this happens every year... but at least it's no longer "superfantastic"

Should have a 12m demo kite here in WA in a few weeks. On the bar, you can ride either kite with the standard North 5 line bar. There is a wakestyle bar for 2015 that has the option of being ridden in 5line or the Hadlow setup and a few extra features that make it better for the freestyle crew out there.

Demo kites will be here in all North dealers ? More infos like price range, or kite program ? Some people talks about less versatility ?

Vegas is due in Australia end August/beginning of September. There's a 12m doing the rounds at the moment, speak to your local North shop.Haven't ridden it so can't comment on less versatility, haven't even seen it in the flesh yet.

Not allowed to comment on price range yet... You'll just have to wait and find out. But going off a 9m, it's cheaper than a Torch, but more than a Razor

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Drewm said..
Vegas is due in Australia end August/beginning of September. There's a 12m doing the rounds at the moment, speak to your local North shop.Haven't ridden it so can't comment on less versatility, haven't even seen it in the flesh yet.

Not allowed to comment on price range yet... You'll just have to wait and find out. But going off a 9m, it's cheaper than a Torch, but more than a Razor

Interesting to see if there has been much change to boards and the new partnership with Hyperlite

Hi guys,
I have been kitesurfing a few times and I really loved the fact that with my watersports experience I kinda had no issue getting going quite easily. It may sound a bit over confident but being sailing/windsurfing/wakeboarding instructor it came quite easy...
Anyway, I am planning on getting some gear definitely wakestyle/freestyle (boots) as it is what I want to do (butter flat water... no wave riding, no big hang time, no choppy conditions).
Do you you think a Vegas or a GP would be suitable for someone like me who is kinda "new" to the sport?? Or would that be too hard??
I m thinking 2 kites 1 board...
What are your thoughts??
Cheers,
Ed
Oh and I miss Australia so much...

A vegas will be hard to relaunch .It takes a bit of practice to suss it out.The vegas is lightning quick it races through the window very fast.
I went from my first kite a cabrinha switch blade to the vegas and loved it straight up .Designed for hardcore freestyle ,but I still love it for free ride ,big air rolls and a bit of wave smashing!.It was able to learn how to kite loop with this kite.It has a very tight loop !.I have tried a few other free ride kites and found them to be to slow and to boring so I stuck with the vegas.
Your main issue witt he vegas will be the relaunch!.
You should demo some different kites just suss out what you like!.

Don't agree regarding Vegas relaunch. Have been flying 2012, 2013 and 2014 Vegas and found the relaunch pretty easy. In very light wind the 5th line needs to be pulled in quite a bit while still pulling one rear line as you normally would. Let go the 5th when around 2/3 or 3/4 of the distance to the side of the wind window is reached, keep pulling the rear line and off she goes

An unfair competition between an ozone reo and a north vegas for there relaunch capabilitys would play out like this.
The reo rider drops his kite in a wave zone .He has 10 seconds before the next wave comes to crunch his kite.He pulls the appropriate steering line and it pops up with 2 second no effort relaunch.
The vegas rider is in the same hyperthetical situation and uses the below technique.

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RussKraut said...
In very light wind the 5th line needs to be pulled in quite a bit while still pulling one rear line as you normally would. Let go the 5th when around 2/3 or 3/4 of the distance to the side of the wind window is reached, keep pulling the rear line and crunch it's to late the kite gets taken by the wave leaving it a messy heap on the beach.

The vegas is a fantastic kite , but the re launch is not a pop up relaunch !

Well yes, if we are talking about waves I would not use the Vegas anyway. While it flies awesome direct and fast you want indeed something with instant relaunch. And you don't want a 5th line wrap in waves either. But the post was referring to wake/freestyle and freeride as well as waves and for that I'd say Vegas will tick most boxes. When trying stuff in flat water it's actually nice the kite is not instantly relaunching so one can regain consciousness before continuing ;-)

Weight: 72 KG
Level: advanced
Style: Freestyle
Weather: 15-20 knots, choppy conditions
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 6/10

Hi all,

Yesterday I had the opportunity to test fly the new 2015 Vegas for 15 min. Kite size 12 m, lines were 24 m and I flew it on the regular 5th line setting. There is no difference between the Won't Stop design and the Headlow version except the graphics. You can also ride the Won't stop edition with the new 6th line setup (Headlow setting).

In the past I have always been riding the vegas (since the first one came out in 2006). Now, I would say that the 2011/2012/2013 and 2014 vegas were pretty similar in terms of handling.
The 2015 is a big change and has a completely different feeling. You can definitely feel that Headlow had a huge influence on the design. I has become just a freestyle/competition kite. The steering is very delayed, quite hard bar pressure as well. There is quite a big ground pull from the kite. Shifting the bar up and down has almost no effect. Therefore the wind range is probably not as big as with previous models.
For somebody that is just into freestyling/wakestyling I could recommend the kite. For somebody that enjoyed the big versatility of previous models I would not recommend it. Probably the new dice would be the better option.

Curious to read about other opinions on the new vegas..

Cheers.

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Backe said..
Weight: 72 KG
Level: advanced
Style: Freestyle
Weather: 15-20 knots, choppy conditions
Build Quality: 10/10
Satisfaction: 6/10

Hi all,

Yesterday I had the opportunity to test fly the new 2015 Vegas for 15 min. Kite size 12 m, lines were 24 m and I flew it on the regular 5th line setting. There is no difference between the Won't Stop design and the Headlow version except the graphics. You can also ride the Won't stop edition with the new 6th line setup (Headlow setting).

In the past I have always been riding the vegas (since the first one came out in 2006). Now, I would say that the 2011/2012/2013 and 2014 vegas were pretty similar in terms of handling.
The 2015 is a big change and has a completely different feeling. You can definitely feel that Headlow had a huge influence on the design. I has become just a freestyle/competition kite. The steering is very delayed, quite hard bar pressure as well. There is quite a big ground pull from the kite. Shifting the bar up and down has almost no effect. Therefore the wind range is probably not as big as with previous models.
For somebody that is just into freestyling/wakestyling I could recommend the kite. For somebody that enjoyed the big versatility of previous models I would not recommend it. Probably the new dice would be the better option.

Curious to read about other opinions on the new vegas..

Cheers.

Interesting! Can't wait to get our hands on it and give it a solid test

Drew

Has anyone tried the new "pop" boots yet?

If they could make the dice as nimble as the vegas .I would buy it.

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tomme said..
Has anyone tried the new "pop" boots yet?

Yeah I have been riding a pair since June. Comfortable, no sign of damage yet from usual wear and tear which is good. I personally prefer the Banana Boots compared to the Pop boot but that's all down to personal preference more than anything. I just find the Banana Boot a little softer... maybe that's because they've had a seasons use and are nicely worn in. The 4-5 people who I have got to try the Pop boot have all really liked them.

has anyone tried the new Hadlow Edition with the Hadlow setting on the wakestyle bar?

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EdOceanLeisure said..
has anyone tried the new Hadlow Edition with the Hadlow setting on the wakestyle bar?

Hadlow has

Actually the best intro video i have seen for a while, looks like North have really put some thought into the different settings, makes sense to be able to have additional settings out of the bag without needing to buy addons or to add things.

very interested to fly and see what it is like.

Will give a kook review in time.

I've had the pleasure of teaching 4 or 5 guys from scratch to kite on a vegas in 20 - 30 kts.

By the 3rd lesson, all of them were cranking upwind on a variety of different boards including 2 old aboard x series, north select, and Supershin

There are two major points about this kite that make it fantastic when compared with alot of the other options out there, and specially against the "quick relaunch" type kites

1. The bar feel and kite position are linked, this is not the case with a lot of bow type and pulley type or bridled kites.

2. The safety system is unparalleled, works in any conditions, and you can generally relaunch the kites in under 60 seconds, compared with a swim into the beach with most of the "quick relaunch kites" once you have engaged the safety... and that is if they actually have a safety line fitted, obviously the "pros" never engage or use them for this exact reason and will argue the depower is the safety..... that's fine until you cross lines with another kite then it don't mean ** !

Nick

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dachopper said..
I've had the pleasure of teaching 4 or 5 guys from scratch to kite on a vegas in 20 - 30 kts.

By the 3rd lesson, all of them were cranking upwind on a variety of different boards including 2 old aboard x series, north select, and Supershin

There are two major points about this kite that make it fantastic when compared with alot of the other options out there, and specially against the "quick relaunch" type kites

1. The bar feel and kite position are linked, this is not the case with a lot of bow type and pulley type or bridled kites.

2. The safety system is unparalleled, works in any conditions, and you can generally relaunch the kites in under 60 seconds, compared with a swim into the beach with most of the "quick relaunch kites" once you have engaged the safety... and that is if they actually have a safety line fitted, obviously the "pros" never engage or use them for this exact reason and will argue the depower is the safety..... that's fine until you cross lines with another kite then it don't mean ** !

Nick

Post of the year contender. All newbies should buy C's. Heaps easier.

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dachopper said..
I've had the pleasure of teaching 4 or 5 guys from scratch to kite on a vegas in 20 - 30 kts.

By the 3rd lesson, all of them were cranking upwind on a variety of different boards including 2 old aboard x series, north select, and Supershin

There are two major points about this kite that make it fantastic when compared with alot of the other options out there, and specially against the "quick relaunch" type kites

1. The bar feel and kite position are linked, this is not the case with a lot of bow type and pulley type or bridled kites.

2. The safety system is unparalleled, works in any conditions, and you can generally relaunch the kites in under 60 seconds, compared with a swim into the beach with most of the "quick relaunch kites" once you have engaged the safety... and that is if they actually have a safety line fitted, obviously the "pros" never engage or use them for this exact reason and will argue the depower is the safety..... that's fine until you cross lines with another kite then it don't mean ** !

Nick

Post of the year contender. All newbies should buy C's. Heaps easier.

I don't believe that is what he is saying. He's just saying it's an accessible C kite which is what a lot of intermediate riders would want.

Hi crew,If your interested, the new VEGAS product video is online.

check it our below

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Saffer said..

Drury said..

dachopper said..
I've had the pleasure of teaching 4 or 5 guys from scratch to kite on a vegas in 20 - 30 kts.

By the 3rd lesson, all of them were cranking upwind on a variety of different boards including 2 old aboard x series, north select, and Supershin

There are two major points about this kite that make it fantastic when compared with alot of the other options out there, and specially against the "quick relaunch" type kites

1. The bar feel and kite position are linked, this is not the case with a lot of bow type and pulley type or bridled kites.

2. The safety system is unparalleled, works in any conditions, and you can generally relaunch the kites in under 60 seconds, compared with a swim into the beach with most of the "quick relaunch kites" once you have engaged the safety... and that is if they actually have a safety line fitted, obviously the "pros" never engage or use them for this exact reason and will argue the depower is the safety..... that's fine until you cross lines with another kite then it don't mean ** !

Nick

Post of the year contender. All newbies should buy C's. Heaps easier.

I don't believe that is what he is saying. He's just saying it's an accessible C kite which is what a lot of intermediate riders would want.

It would be naive to assume all "beginners" need to ride a "beginner" branded kite. They are not like L plate driver cars that are required to have less power, to allow less speed and cause less damage, magically allow guys to ride in one lesson, and relaunch with your eyes closed. They make the same power as any other kite on the market for its size, they are going to spank you just as hard ( probably harder if there is a lack of feedback through the bar and lines ) and if they have the single line flagging safety, your going to be doing the walk of shame more often...... so y buy one ?

The other beginners riding bow / hybrid like kites have at least one kite inversion per kite session where I kite, for the sake of quick relaunch when it's not inverted. Having a kite that performs like the vegas, doesn't require any less / more attention from a beginner to fly, than a kite with little performance that flies like a jellyfish, but the safety does work, and that's the most important aspects of a beginner kite, no matter what it is branded as.

I didn't have the pleasure of learning on one of these, and went through the school of hard knocks with a piece of turd fixed angle of attack 2 line with a trailing edge reversing wallan water foil. My wife and 7 or 8 of my mates that I have taught on the vegas, have had fantastic results.

Any how, regarding the comments on this kite, It sounds like this kite has reverted to I think the 2010 type feeling.which is good in the smaller sizes, but not that good in the 10+ size IMO. If they took the 2012 2013 larger sizes and matched them with the lower aspect 2010 smaller sizes that would be a good mix.

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dachopper said..

Saffer said..

Drury said..

dachopper said..
I've had the pleasure of teaching 4 or 5 guys from scratch to kite on a vegas in 20 - 30 kts.

By the 3rd lesson, all of them were cranking upwind on a variety of different boards including 2 old aboard x series, north select, and Supershin

There are two major points about this kite that make it fantastic when compared with alot of the other options out there, and specially against the "quick relaunch" type kites

1. The bar feel and kite position are linked, this is not the case with a lot of bow type and pulley type or bridled kites.

2. The safety system is unparalleled, works in any conditions, and you can generally relaunch the kites in under 60 seconds, compared with a swim into the beach with most of the "quick relaunch kites" once you have engaged the safety... and that is if they actually have a safety line fitted, obviously the "pros" never engage or use them for this exact reason and will argue the depower is the safety..... that's fine until you cross lines with another kite then it don't mean ** !

Nick

Post of the year contender. All newbies should buy C's. Heaps easier.

I don't believe that is what he is saying. He's just saying it's an accessible C kite which is what a lot of intermediate riders would want.

It would be naive to assume all "beginners" need to ride a "beginner" branded kite. They are not like L plate driver cars that are required to have less power, to allow less speed and cause less damage, magically allow guys to ride in one lesson, and relaunch with your eyes closed. They make the same power as any other kite on the market for its size, they are going to spank you just as hard ( probably harder if there is a lack of feedback through the bar and lines ) and if they have the single line flagging safety, your going to be doing the walk of shame more often...... so y buy one ?

The other beginners riding bow / hybrid like kites have at least one kite inversion per kite session where I kite, for the sake of quick relaunch when it's not inverted. Having a kite that performs like the vegas, doesn't require any less / more attention from a beginner to fly, than a kite with little performance that flies like a jellyfish, but the safety does work, and that's the most important aspects of a beginner kite, no matter what it is branded as.

I didn't have the pleasure of learning on one of these, and went through the school of hard knocks with a piece of turd fixed angle of attack 2 line with a trailing edge reversing wallan water foil. My wife and 7 or 8 of my mates that I have taught on the vegas, have had fantastic results.

Any how, regarding the comments on this kite, It sounds like this kite has reverted to I think the 2010 type feeling.which is good in the smaller sizes, but not that good in the 10+ size IMO. If they took the 2012 2013 larger sizes and matched them with the lower aspect 2010 smaller sizes that would be a good mix.

Hi guys,
I saw the new Vegas at the beach on saturday and I reckon it is the sexiest looking kite out there at the moment. There was a bunch of Liquid Force, Core, Cabrinha, F-One, RRD and more at the festival and North Kiteboarding is winning on all levels!!! The guys even said that it is a great kite (in standard set up) to teach so I guess this will be my new kite, 2015 North Vegas 10m with the wakestyle bar. I cant wait to get that set up!!!
And the Gambler seems to be such a great board...

Have some new 2015 Vegas' ready to try on the standard 5th Element Trust Bar. Wakestyle bars coming next month hopefully. Until then, if anyone wants a demo in WA, let us know.

Drew

Kite does look good thats for sure, am interested in flying on wakestyle and trust to compare (im **** so probably will make 0 difference)