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toppleover said..weebitbreezy said..toppleover said..
I'd like to demo a mono, the single & struttless kites I have flown have not had the performance that I'm looking for.
What is it you are looking for? You are unlikely to find a big boosting kite with 0 or 1 struts, nor high wind stability (even 3 strut kites generally suffer in comparison to 5 struts). BRM cloud aside, they come with fat leading edge profiles to give the shape so you're always going to have a kite that sits back a little compared to a high aspect kite.
Light weight is the new 'pully-less' at the moment so plenty of other options if the design constraints of low strut counts don't give you the qualities you want.
I'm after a fast - light wind surf kite, that doesn't flap when sheeted out & good relaunch.
May well be worth a demo then. My mono experience is on the 12m only so bear that in mind that the smaller sizes are more likely to be a bit tauter in the canopy. I'm riding the North quad bar.
I'd generally see the kite as a cheaper Neo (haven't owned a dice other than 2014 model so I don't see the comparison myself). I'd say it turns about the same, drifts similarly (possibly a fraction better in light winds) and relaunches about the same. Low end power is possibly marginally better on the mono - but my mate rides his Neos on the freeride settings so it may be the same if both are on the surf setting. Neo high end is a noticable amount better.
Relaunch is pretty good. Though I don't surf waves (as we don't have any) so expect the usual trouble if a wave crashes over and tumbles it. I did have to swim in once when wind dropped to about 8 knots and I took a tumble. Wasn't able to coax the kite back into the air. This may be partly inexperience as I was concerned about my foil moving into the lines and I may have persisted on a directional.
There is some flutter of the canopy - although I mainly notice it at the top end and when cranking really hard turns. It wouldn't put me off though. The canopy is well stretched and I don't remember any flutter when the kite is sitting at 12 sheeted out (learning to foil I have spent more time like this than I'd care to admit getting the foil in position without cutting my shins to bits) even in low wind.
Whilst not the lightest kite (loads of bump patches and reinforcement), it should be tough enough for a tumble in the surf and is lighter than a normal kite so you do need to weigh it down on the beach or even in modest winds it'll start to move along the beach.
The good thing about North is its dealer network for demos. I have some Ocean Rodeo flites that are equally as light but aren't surf kites (turn faster too). I gather they are now putting the weight savings into their prodigy surf kites. I suspect you could get a 3 strut surf kite for a similar weight but whether you have a demo nearby is unlikely. The mono is a decent kite in its own right - and the best single strut I have come across but you may get equivalent weight savings from a lighter built 3 strut kite?