Hi all,

I've recently started riding a surfboard in flat water and small waves and am really enjoying it.

So now I've been thinking about a slider bar setup to smooth out the carving turns on toeside runs. Either the Mystic 2face harness, or adding the dynabar v8 to my current mystic warrior harness.

Has anyone used both (or either) of these? What was your thoughts on them?

Everyone seems to rav about the dynabar, but I cant really find much on the 2face.

Having never ridden either, and just going by each products descriptions/ads, I like the look and idea of the 2face. Just seems cleaner and more stable. And I like that it slides right round to to hip. But I could be wrong... advertisements wouldn't lie to me right??

They are both the same price (found the 2face on special) so money is not the deciding factor.

Thanks in advance

Yes I have owned and used both.

firstly the 2 face only rotates one way depending on the set up You choose. Secondly you need to get it super tight or the whole thing will rotate and the strap will pull out a fair ways rom the harness. That said I did like it when using a surf board on toe side. I added a webbing buckle from an old harness that I could use to reduce the movement on the fly as I liked to limit the movement when using my TT which I usually alternate to every half hour or so.

for or me the Dynabar with the metal free ride slider bar is a better option. I have it on my favourite pyro harness that you can fit however is most comfortable, It can slide both ways and it will sit in the centre position when using my TT. doesnt move around when you boost.

I found that always went for the harness with the Dynabar so sold the 2 Face. Been using the Dynabar for at least 3 years, 4 summers...

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Smithy said..

for or me the Dynabar with the metal free ride slider bar is a better option. I have it on my favourite pyro harness that you can fit however is most comfortable, It can slide both ways and it will sit in the centre position when using my TT. doesnt move around when you boost.

I found that always went for the harness with the Dynabar so sold the 2 Face. Been using the Dynabar for at least 3 years, 4 summers...

Took me about an hour to get used to the rope slider on the Dynabar, on the TT. Apparently, I used to waggle my hips around a lot. IMO for jumping, it's good for technique; forces you to keep your hips square to the kite when you load it and really lean into it... I don't feel it to be a disadvantage for height or ease of rotation. Landing and leaning into the hook doesn't work but you adapt to that.

On the directional, I felt instantly at home.

Gushing review maybe, but the improvement in "flow" and comfort is a quantum leap...!

Oh, forgot to add: the rope is just regular depower line with a simple eye splice, easy to DIY at the beach. The straps on the 2face or the Dakine thing bothered me...

I have the 2face I only ride directional, it takes a little getting used to. When you take the Kite accross the window you need to be ready for it to move I found sometimes I'd be going into a turn then all of a sudden it would slide just catching you out a bit. You need to tension the **** out of it laid flat to stop the bar coming off the track. All that said I love it, comfy with the neoprene inside too. The sizing is funny mine is large and I'm only 32 around the waist. The Slingshot crew are doing demos with the ride engine harness on a sliding rope, tried it last week super strong, snug fit. Try and catch their demo tour to try one.

Dynabar fits any harness, except the new Ride Engine harnesses. Not sure if it would fit a 3Face either as I have not used one although we did sell them when I was still at the Kp shop in Sydney, I've been using the Dynabar since the first came to market, first with the metal slider when I still rode Tt's a lot, but now I only use the rope slider version. I would never go back to a fixed hook harness, for TT or surfboard. Rode a TT yesterday for the first time in maybe a year or so, still no hassle to jump and do the tame tricks that I can still do.
For surfboard there is nothing that comes close for ease of riding toeside in my opinion, just because the Dynabar has the largest range of movement side to side. I have 2 Ride Engine harnesses, a Hexcore anda n Elite. They feel super comfy when you wear them, but I have not had a chance to try them as I only got them yesterday.
Will report back on them when I get a chance to test them soon, but am having carpal tunnel surgery on Thursday which will put me off the water a couple of weeks.

Bit of a vegemite product the dyna bar, either you love it or hate it, wasn't my cup of tea, especially during jumping transitions, my buddy a very decent wave rider couldn't understand what all the hype was about, how many top riders use them? Whatever feels good for you

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cauncy said..
Bit of a vegemite product the dyna bar, either you love it or hate it, wasn't my cup of tea, especially during jumping transitions, my buddy a very decent wave rider couldn't understand what all the hype was about, how many top riders use them? Whatever feels good for you

Oh well if top-level guys are using fixed spreader bars, then none of the rest of us should be using them... so the logic goes, I hear...

Not bagging the product as it's obviouse some people like them, I was surprised how weak the elasticated chord was, personally if it was , let's say 3 or 4 times more tensile the movement would be much smoother when aggressively re-directed, a point we both made comment on

Thanks for all the replies! Great to hear from a few people who've used the 2face.
Seems like the dynabar is the more popular option.

First I've heard of the slingshot harness too, I'll look into that one.

But,I think I'll go the dynabar once KP have them back in stock

Cheers

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cauncy said..
Not bagging the product as it's obviouse some people like them, I was surprised how weak the elasticated chord was, personally if it was , let's say 3 or 4 times more tensile the movement would be much smoother when aggressively re-directed, a point we both made comment on

The bungee is a bit of a trainer wheel thing, lost of people take it off. The bungee is on one of my harnesses and off the other one, and its pretty shagged on the one that still has it. The more you use a sliding spreader for wave riding the more you realise you do not need any centralising bungee or steel rail with a bump, but for freeriding the steel rail and centralising bump and bungee helps a lot with boosting initially, but again once you get used to a sliding spreader you realise you don't need as much centralising force, thats why the V7/V8 versions all come with 2 sliding bars, one with a very pronounced bump and one with a lot less. I'd reckon at least 50% of riders will graduate to the less pronounced option eventually, especially if they do a lot of toeside riding and directional riding.

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nikmcc said..
Thanks for all the replies! Great to hear from a few people who've used the 2face.
Seems like the dynabar is the more popular option.

First I've heard of the slingshot harness too, I'll look into that one.

But,I think I'll go the dynabar once KP have them back in stock

Cheers

Mario from Jaystore, the dynabar designer keeps in touch. He sent me these pics today as I had asked him about direct connection options. Kitepower will be getting some of these (at my suggestion). I'll be using one of the 40mm units on the right of the photo.



This is an option that you can make yourself with a Ronstan roller bearing mini block with a swivelling D eye, which you then add a Ronstan 25mm SS ring to.