A couple of months in:
1. Lines are good for looping but within a month the covering already showed signs of wear at the crossover point after loops
2. I've got a small chicken loop - 8 times now it's twisted itself off the harness after a loop triggering the quick release as the power comes back on; it's not a pleasant experience at 20kn and is very unpleasant at 40kn
3. I felt it undersheeted in the factory set up and after a recent retune of the bar added 5cm to the front lines, Bandits and Orbits fly better as a result
4. Click to depower is good, I find the powering up cumbersome and not particularly ergonomic on a 49cm bar - may be better with the small bar
5. The extra sets of pigtails are more useful than I could have imagined for tuning different kites
6. Signs of wear after 1 month on the grip points
7. No sign of safety line wear as reported in earlier models

Chicken loop twisted off the spreader bar 3 more times in 2 sessions last weekend triggering the safety release - ridiculous. It was bloody dangerous on 2 of these occasions, I've been through several bars in the last 3 years and this issue has never occurred.

Not happy.

Riding it in half suicide mode works fine, no random unhooking after loops.

I think the random unhooking is caused by the chicken loop and stick being too flexible relative to all my other bars; it's like using elastic bands as compared to those. Spreader bar isn't the issue.

I have used click bars for about 3 years and never had the chicken loop twisting away maybe check with a shop if there is something wrong with yours ?

Thanks mate, did that - happens to one of their instructors while teaching too. Half-suicide works well.

What on earth is half suicide?
I have a small piece of an old bridle line, about 15 cms long - loop at one end, knot at the other which I feed around the hook and through the chicken loop just in case I unhook by accident especially if boosting in very strong winds. Sometimes we get a bit over excited and slam the bar down too hard and are in danger of doing the accidental unhook.

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daggy said..
What on earth is half suicide?
I have a small piece of an old bridle line, about 15 cms long - loop at one end, knot at the other which I feed around the hook and through the chicken loop just in case I unhook by accident especially if boosting in very strong winds. Sometimes we get a bit over excited and slam the bar down too hard and are in danger of doing the accidental unhook.

Suicide is where you clip onto the trim lines. Only release is from your harness and that releases the whole kite. No flag out at all

Half suicide is where the clip onto the flag out line but that line is also clipped onto the chicken loop. The upshot is that if you let go, the kite doesn't flag out - BUT - you can get the kite to flag out if you pull the QR.

Mine has twisted itself off once or twice, tends to work its' way free after the lines slack out. I've put it down to the hook on my Ride Engine Unity bar compared to the Mystic Stealth bar that i have.
I suspect it is due to the fact that the Unity bar is less 'hooked' and curved like the mystic.
A floppy donky dick probably doesn't help the situation.

Yo man did you bend your hook possibly doing loops I've re bent them a few times make aure it's not the mystic ones they aren't the strongest I've had injury from the shorts one. Now ride suicide all the time plus was thinking of getting a seat belt stitched into the new shorts so what happened me never happens again

Yo man did you bend your hook possibly doing loops I've re bent them a few times make aure it's not the mystic ones they aren't the strongest I've had injury from the shorts one. Now ride suicide all the time plus was thinking of getting a seat belt stitched into the new shorts so what happened me never happens again

Nah, the hook on the Ride Engine hasn't been unbent by loops. It's just a shallower angle compared to the Mystic.

The times I noticed the chicken loop half off, it's been when the lines slack after a crash or if I catch up to the kite on landing a jump.
The CL would be half off hanging on the hook and just about to wiggle free of the donkey dick.

I've attached a couple of pics of the two different harnesses and it's considerably easier on the Ride engine hook to get it into that half unhooked position compared to the Mystic Stealth Bar.

I would hazard a guess that a larger CL would work its' way off easier compared to the small free-ride loop on the click bar.

The rubber grip on the bar.. I have had bad wear and tears in the material to the extent it's unpleasant to handle, so soon after replacing the last for the same reason

My spreader bar is a Mystic like Neldy's but the twist happens on it anyway unless riding half suicide...no probs at all since taking that half suicide approach.