Delta c kites

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pearl
pearl
NSW
984 posts
NSW, 984 posts
14 Feb 2009 12:25pm
After trying a few kites at Kitestock, I'm leaning towards getting a delta c kite. You could really feel the difference in handling compared to my current bows. With the wind 30+ knt it was hard to tell some things.Can anyone tell me with a dos, kima, or core etc;
- Is there any lag in turning, and how is handling when unhooked?
- Is the bar pressure slightly more than an equivalent size bow (e.g. SB or rev)
- Low end of 10m dos 9m kima 9m core compared to SB ids 10m
- What kite companies currently have delta c and who are bringing them out?
Ta!
NSW, 4382 posts
14 Feb 2009 2:42pm
pearl said...

After trying a few kites at Kitestock, I'm leaning towards getting a delta c kite. You could really feel the difference in handling compared to my current bows. With the wind 30+ knt it was hard to tell some things.Can anyone tell me with a dos, kima, or core etc;
- Is there any lag in turning, and how is handling when unhooked?


Sure was windy there eh!! We were only able to demo the 1o.5 Core for a couple of hours on Saturday, before the wind built up to smoking strength again around 3pm (till dark)
There is one pulley per front line bridle, per side, so there is a small amount of lag, but it is a lot less than kites with 3 or 4 pulleys in their bridles.
The Cores unhook fine, just pull in a bit of trim. They are powerful for their size, especially unhooked, probably better in the bottom end of their wind range, but super stable, lots of power in turns.


pearl said...
- Is the bar pressure slightly more than an equivalent size bow (e.g. SB or rev)


Yes, I would say that is true of all Delta style kites, although the Dos probaly has the least of all the kites I've tried so far.
I don't put the Kima in the delta class, its a 3 strut hybrid, designed for waves, but with moderate bar pressure.

pearl said...
- Low end of 10m dos 9m kima 9m core compared to SB ids 10m


Dos 10M has more power, so does a 9M Core, Kima about the same.


pearl said...
- What kite companies currently have delta c and who are bringing them out?
Ta!


F-one's famous Bandit series, now BanditDos. Core, see corekites.com.au for dealer list. Best have the Kahoona, only just released not available here just yet, but soonish. North Evo. There must be a couple of others not available in Oz??

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Nobile
Nobile
SA
42 posts
SA, 42 posts
14 Feb 2009 3:10pm
Hi All,

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Cheers,
B
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
14 Feb 2009 5:07pm
Hey Pearl,

I have the 08 Nano, which I suppose is the closest to the Eclipse Kima or atleast the 6m.

With the Nano which has the similar bridle to the Kima, there is no delay in turning. I hear the Kima is a bit smoother and more stable.

Bar pressure I would say is above average but if correctly tuned is actually not to bad, keeping in mind that the kites are wave orientated kites and are depowered more than a freeride kite.

If you are going to use it as an allrounder, I would consider the 09 Nano over the Kima.

I would also try before you buy.

Cheers
Rich
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
14 Feb 2009 9:57pm
Hi Guys,

In short, my findings on the Core kites after having ridden 7, 9 and 10.5 for a fair amount of time is this.

Core 9m : Very powerful for it's size, probably slightly more grunt than other you mentioned, no discernable lag in steering response, good unhooked, just make sure you aren't overpowered to begin with, if in normal wind range, depower slightly and away you go.

They sure boost like hell as witnessed by many at Kitestock, scared myself several times with excessive altitude. Bar pressure is moderate, slightly heavier than dos and SB, but still OK. By using mini loop to relax and take the full power load from time to time, it's not an issue at all. Steering is very fast and takes some input to initiate unlike Dos which tends to wander all over the sky by so much as a steering thought.

I wouldn't recommend one to the ladies, this is a blokes kite, quite an aggressive kite in just about every respect, power, speed, g's in looping, vertical acceleration in boosts etc.

The Core Loop with big power in turns, a lot like a C kite, hence why I never pulled the trigger to loop in the big air comp, ..... too scared 40-40-40 was too much and self preservation kept kicking in. (40 feet up, 40 knots of wind and 40cm of water to land in )

Wish I'd had my cup of concrete that morning

Good winds,

tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
14 Feb 2009 11:36pm
The Mr F from JN Kites turns quickley, has very little bar pressure, flies upwind and has plenty of low end grunt.

With regards to bar pressure the Mr F has a lot less than the DOS.

The 10m is the equivelant to a 12m C kite. I have used the 8.0m in 15knots and been planning upwind.

The JN Mr F is available in OZ at fantastic prices (much less than the others due to being a Euro company)

PM me for more info......

vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
15 Feb 2009 12:41pm
Why restrict yourself to a marketing tag-line?

Try a number of this years kites and you will find they will have fairly direct steering/handling etc. , especially those with direct rear line attachment,

Enjoi
Matt
newo
newo
WA
250 posts
WA, 250 posts
15 Feb 2009 3:06pm
rrd obsession has got some good reviews. Big thread on kiteforum about it.
Sasha
Sasha
VIC
103 posts
VIC, 103 posts
17 Feb 2009 10:55am
Go Takoon Furia!
Faster turning, absorbing gusts better,more depower>better upper end,smoother,
better safety ( just let bar go).
Delta kites jump better though.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
18 Feb 2009 4:49pm
Had a quick squirt on a 7m Core GT.

Impressive grunt and speed but did have to be muscled to begin the turn, then it whipped around and rocketed accross the window.

Not for beginners (or gumbys like me) IMHO.


Q? Is the Turbo 3 really a 'Delta bow' or just SS marketing BoolSh!t??
Mattress
Mattress
NSW
120 posts
NSW, 120 posts
18 Feb 2009 10:17pm
T3 is a bow. I've never heard it called a delta. If you see one in the air it looks nothing like a delta kite.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
19 Feb 2009 12:50pm
Cheers Matt - so BoollyShizzle it is!

BTW, to T3 riders, don't get shirty I am not sayin the kites are rubbish - just the hyper-marketing (not exclusive to SS either).
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