Hi Core riders!
Your feedback on this forum did help me with my decision and I cant wait till I start riding these fantastic kites myself, just want to ask you couple ? specific to my situation ,buy also perhaps you could tell me why they are so cheap 10.5m cost about1200 EUROS yet here under $1800 ,difficult to understand, perhaps because they dont advertise allover the place and when we open Kiteboarding Mag we dont have to read crap about yet another safest, fastest,revolutionary kite made in China, Taiwan, and the like, as you know the CORE factory is elswhere.
Perhaps because there is no choice of colours and graphics, it would be good to know, why such great product made by people associated with highest quality ( just to say Mercedes Benz ,BMW) is so reasonably priced.
Now my ??? I cant demo these kites but cant make a mistake, Im thinking to get 7 and 10.5m, the big one as light wind kite my weight 81kg and at present have only one board MAKO 140*40 ( soon to get another top German product Spleene Session) can I go comfortable upwind in about 12 knots,or I have to go for 12m, Im especially intrested what BERMAND has to say since he rides MAKO I belive, in all info I got to I didnt see anything in regard to the upwind ability of the kite.
Thanks for your help.

Hi Cezary
Cheap and nasty I don't think so, best bar I have used which includes Cab Xbow 1,2,3,IDS Fone bandit dos and Rev 1. Kite build and quality is as good as anything else I have used. I decided on 10.5 and 7 as I now have a UG freestyle 5ft8, which is a great board and works really well with 10.5m. 12 knots is really light wind and I think you may need a 12m. It depend on what style you are into, for waves a surfboard 10.5 and 7 is way to go.
If you really wan't to get out in light stuff i.e 12knots on a 140 by 40, I had 150 by 40 Mako wide, you at 81 kg will need a 12m kite. I weigh about 77kg
As far as price is concerned the fact that you only require one bar for up to 3 kites keeps cost down. I think these cheap prices are introductary offers as the kite is relatively new to Aus and they too may go up in time.
Anyway hope that all helps, you may be able to demo GT with guys at Geelong

Thanks Bermand ,but its really bad news with size 12, I was hoping that 10.5 is OK since on the kite I use now ( 09 WAROO 11m)and on MAKO I have no problem to go upwind from 15 knots and this kite doesnt have good bottom end when I struggle to stay upwind below 15 knots I watch guys ripping upwind on same size or even smaller, for example 10 NEMI or REVS etc.
As you know MAKO is not light wind specific board, but SESSION 142*42 is and I want to get it just to make sure the smaller size kite is OK for light wind days, Im not intrested to ride belov 11 knots, but 12-15 is a must.
If I get 12m I would have to go size up with high wind kite I guess.

Bermand!
Its funny that You mention Geelong, last time I went there I got 3 demerit points ,$240 fine for speeding and since it pushed me over 12 points limit I got 12 months (stiil a few to go ), I was driving a bit too fast since I wanted to be on time but when I got there (on time) the guy wasnt ready for another 1.5 hours or so when he got ready it took another 45min. to get to the spot and then 30 min. to set up and then the wind changed and my demo was concluded.
I did say in my post that I cant demo GT knowing I could go to Geelong to do that, but Im afraid, but perhaps its the only way to test 10.5 in lighter conditions.
Could actually ride a bike there.
Cheers

hi cezery, make sure you demo first before you buy a 10.5 for 12-15knts at 81kg, unless your on a surfboard.

Hi Guys,

There are several ways to gain market share in a new market. One is to have a fantastic high quality product and the other is to introduce the kite at a cheap price and not waste heaps of money on advertising that no one really believes anyway.

The kites are awesome and plenty of people are finding out that the kites rock for them too. Don't expect these kites to remain cheap forever. They are similar quality to the biggest names in the business but have more ingenious straight forward design making it even more appealling to the average Joe. Add to this pricing from 2006 and you have a hot kite.

To buy additional kites without bar saving $500/kite is a big plus. Being one bright colour makes them stand out at every beach they fly at, very clever! The fact that they work for all riders and have a good feel despite the fact they use pulleys is testament to good design. The 5th line safety without a 5th line is brilliant and effective.

I spoke to one of the designers last night and he said they were testing 2-4 prototypes every week and wouldn't be superceding the GT for at least another year, which means they are serious about only releasing good stuff in a sustainable manner.

For Cezary: The upwind ability is good, better than Dos, but not quite as good as Ozone Sport+.

The 7m GT is my Fave kite. Crazy wind range and nose bleeds with every boost in strong winds.

Good winds,

I may be wrong, but I believe Core kites are made in Sri Lanka.
Just guessing, but probably in the same place that makes some North kites.
I don't know if that makes them any better than a kite made in China.
I have read plenty of times that these kites are powerful for their size, like all delta shapes they have more area in the centre of the wing, less at the tips.
I'd be taking that bike ride to Geelong to try the 10.5. It'd be a shame to go too big.

Kitehard!
If I had any doubts that bleeding nose of yours would be enough for me to go and get the whole quiver unfortunatelly cant do it right now, can buy only 1 kite perhaps 2 if I can sell the Waroo, with 3 no problemo 7, 9, 12- but thats not the case so PLEASE help me to understand one thing( you gave me great advice before to get SS spreader bar it fixed my problem with unhooking and gave huge boost in confidence- thanks a lot).
Now according to secif.the wind range for 7 (16-31), 9 (11-27) 10.5(10-24), 12(9-22)
my weight 81kg so I HAVE TO ADD 2 KNOTS .
i belive I have to use my wet weight, dry is 78-77kg.
If its wet that counts the range for 10.5 is 12-26 so can I GO FOR 10.5 as light wind kite taking into account I ride MAKO will get Session 42 that has the range from 8 knots up ( dont really know how they come up with the range for a board it must depend on the kite, is it right???.
Such calculation works perfectly with 11m Waroo the range is 13-27 I add 2 knots and bingo, from 15 knots I dont have to walk, but how can you compare such great kite as GT with Waroo, theoretically I SHOULD BE RIDING UPWIND WELL BELOV 12 knts.but perhaps im just dreamming maybe 11m Waroo has better low end than 10.5 GT.
Any feedback to help me understand it and help with the decision 10.5 or 12 much appreac.
Cheers
P.S. I KNOW many of you just say dont be a fool just go and demo both, but its not that simple and also Im not intrested how the kite flies ,I will ride as the kite wants me to, it just that silly size.

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cezary said...

Kitehard!
If I had any doubts that bleeding nose of yours would be enough for me to go and get the whole quiver unfortunatelly cant do it right now, can buy only 1 kite perhaps 2 if I can sell the Waroo, with 3 no problemo 7, 9, 12- but thats not the case so PLEASE help me to understand one thing( you gave me great advice before to get SS spreader bar it fixed my problem with unhooking and gave huge boost in confidence- thanks a lot).
Now according to secif.the wind range for 7 (16-31), 9 (11-27) 10.5(10-24), 12(9-22)
my weight 81kg so I HAVE TO ADD 2 KNOTS .
i belive I have to use my wet weight, dry is 78-77kg.
If its wet that counts the range for 10.5 is 12-26 so can I GO FOR 10.5 as light wind kite taking into account I ride MAKO will get Session 42 that has the range from 8 knots up ( dont really know how they come up with the range for a board it must depend on the kite, is it right???.
Such calculation works perfectly with 11m Waroo the range is 13-27 I add 2 knots and bingo, from 15 knots I dont have to walk, but how can you compare such great kite as GT with Waroo, theoretically I SHOULD BE RIDING UPWIND WELL BELOV 12 knts.but perhaps im just dreamming maybe 11m Waroo has better low end than 10.5 GT.
Any feedback to help me understand it and help with the decision 10.5 or 12 much appreac.
Cheers
P.S. I KNOW many of you just say dont be a fool just go and demo both, but its not that simple and also Im not intrested how the kite flies ,I will ride as the kite wants me to, it just that silly size.

Cezary you can call the Geelong store 52295899 and get Johnny to meet you in Altona, or you can drive at 100 and demo one in Geelong/Pt Henry


Add at least 2-3 knots to the bottom end of those figures to get the realistic bottom end, provided you use a larger board.
The 10.5 is easily as powerful as any 11M and most 12M kites, a good quiver for Vic if you want to get out over winter in the SW and W would be 7 and 10.5, top end on the 9M would be around 30, we were fine on the 7M in 35+ at Kitestock.
If you get the 9, then the best size to go with is the 12M.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

No point in getting 12 m kite, as not much you can do inwind around 12 knots= just cruising around,ok for beginners but BORRING as you get better.
My advise stick to 10.5&7 m and try surf board late on.
I am 80 kg dry had to use my 13 only twice last year,
used 9&7 m all the time.

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cezary said...

Kitehard!
If I had any doubts that bleeding nose of yours would be enough for me to go and get the whole quiver unfortunatelly cant do it right now, can buy only 1 kite perhaps 2 if I can sell the Waroo, with 3 no problemo 7, 9, 12- but thats not the case so PLEASE help me to understand one thing( you gave me great advice before to get SS spreader bar it fixed my problem with unhooking and gave huge boost in confidence- thanks a lot).
Now according to secif.the wind range for 7 (16-31), 9 (11-27) 10.5(10-24), 12(9-22)
my weight 81kg so I HAVE TO ADD 2 KNOTS .
i belive I have to use my wet weight, dry is 78-77kg.
If its wet that counts the range for 10.5 is 12-26 so can I GO FOR 10.5 as light wind kite taking into account I ride MAKO will get Session 42 that has the range from 8 knots up ( dont really know how they come up with the range for a board it must depend on the kite, is it right???.
Such calculation works perfectly with 11m Waroo the range is 13-27 I add 2 knots and bingo, from 15 knots I dont have to walk, but how can you compare such great kite as GT with Waroo, theoretically I SHOULD BE RIDING UPWIND WELL BELOV 12 knts.but perhaps im just dreamming maybe 11m Waroo has better low end than 10.5 GT.
Any feedback to help me understand it and help with the decision 10.5 or 12 much appreac.
Cheers
P.S. I KNOW many of you just say dont be a fool just go and demo both, but its not that simple and also Im not intrested how the kite flies ,I will ride as the kite wants me to, it just that silly size.

Hi Cezary,

The 10.5 is a really grnty kite for sure and with the right board you should be up and planing in around 12-13 knots. I can ride it in about 13 knots on an Exile and I weigh dry about 91 kilos. As an allrounder, I'd grab the 10.5, it still turns crazy fast and is heaps of fun boosting. It has a good wind range for me, I ride it to about 25ish but then much prefer to go down to a 9 or even a 7.

The 10.5 is our most popular size for sure. The 12m is also great but I reckon it's better suited to buys weighing 95 kilos+. They really have a lot of power!
Medium kites that pull like big kites but behave like small kites

At the end of the day it will most likely be determined by your average wind speeds in your local area. Here we get 15-25 knots so we mostly sell 10.5 and 7m for the 80 kilo guys and 12 and 9 to the 95+ kilo guys. If you are average weight and ride a surfboard, go the 9m/7m and 5m option!

Grab a demo if you can, it'll be worth your time.

Thanks everybody who did help me with my decision- 7 for the start and 10.5 as soon as I can, for now I just keep the Waroo, at least I will be able to fly it with the proper bar hopefully it will make it move- CORE claims that this bar enables every kite turn faster, cant wait to use it- even more than the kite itself.
Steve, thanks for the offer to demo in Altona, never been there never will, I shall just buy it from you, and if not happy simply return within 7 days for full refund, what do you think?.
If anybody is intrested to try GT on the other side of the bridge feel free to contact me,for one can of Carlsberg you will take her for a spin.
Tobes you are wrong CORE kites are not made in Sri Lanka ,but on an island that name escaped my memory ,it starts with F and I think is on the Baltic Sea, testing is done in washing machines of Hawaii.On the other hand you are very right that it would be shame to get it too big, IMHO size 12 for average rider is far too big unless you want to ride in winds below 12 knots, or the kite is not uptodate.

You mean Fehmarn? That's where Core (and parent compang Hiss-Tec) are based, but I doubt that they build the kites there.
Some people think Flysurfer are made in Germany too, but they're just as Chinese as most of the rest of them.
Where they are designed and the quality of the components is another thing though.
Engineered by Germans, but made where?
I'm not knocking Core here, the GT is high on the list of kites I'm interested in.

Yes Tobes, thats correct, of course we dont know the full story, they could be as Chinease as all the other kites, and thats most likely the case since if the kites were made on Fehmarn by Germans they would have to cost at least double.

Hi Guys,

Core is a division of Hiss-tech and is based in Fehmarn, Germany. They also have a sister company Carved (custom, luxury European boards).

The kites are made in Sri Lanka, I believe in the same factory as North. Build quality and materials are high grade. The construction and material layout is very similar to the North Rebel when you look at them side by side.

Tough as!

Good winds,

Yes indeedy core GTs are made in Sri Lanka, it even says so on the bridle.
Build quality is awsome, they look like their built to last!!!

Hi:

I ride GT's in 12/9/7, in my opinion is a great quiver!!!

10.5/7 is also a nice quiver!!!

10.5 should work great if you get usually 14+ knots for wakestyle or 12 knots in a surfboard working the kite.

Hope it helps!!!

So there is good news and the bad news, the bad news is that CORE kites are not made on FEHMARN , the good news is that they are not made in China either since we all know that no country in the world can beat China in making rubbish and whats worst toxic products, think about that when you have your milk in the mornning, belive it or not it can come from China- bon apetite.

cheap and nasty

I have had my 7 m for about 2 weeks now, but still didnt have the pleasure to ride it in 30 plus and have some reservations if I should actually fly 7m in such wind since the bottom end is just incredible, in winter gear Im 83kg and on standart TT I can hold ground in 17 knots, just 1 or 2 knots more and Im making ground easily, its really not much diffrence from 11m Waroo that I also ride, finally Im not sick to my guts watching other guys ripping up wind on smaller kites than my 11m, just wondering now what the bloody thing is going to do to me in 30 plus.
IMHO I think the bottom end is so good since you can fly this kite with power full on even in such low wind as 16 knots ,it just doesnt stall, even on the 2nd knot, also 57 wide bar probably helps to make GTquicker and make more of apparent wind.

Hi Guys, just a quick question regarding size. I'm looking at upgrading to a Core GT soonish, but I am unable to demo. (Not ideal I know but nothing I can do about it.)

I weight 63kg's and currently have an '07 LF Havoc 10m I usually ride in 15-20kts, but once it starts pushing the 20 mark I have difficulty holding an edge, so I am looking for something slightly smaller.

I am open to suggestions on what size would be suitable to those conditions/weight.

Thanks.

Hey Hosh!
Im sure you can ride your 9m puppy in 30knts( you didnt start kiting in the last few months, did you) and thanks for your advice in regard to boosting but I have to leave it for the guys you invited to Pinnas, Im ashamed to admit , I started kiting in October and still too scared to boost in 30 knots.
I take it very slowly since I need my legs for other sports, so at present Im quite happy with my little 2 meters jumps.
Please let us know if any guys had the balls to visit you in Pinnas to send your puppy with conviction, or they can come to Melbourne to try low end of my 7m, no balls required.
Cheers

Of course nothing too serious, we should all (kiters I mean)have a sense of humour, if someone doesnt, its his problem, never or less its nice of you to offer your kite to try to someone who think its cheap and nasty on my part I am happy to do that in Melbourne and thats offer for anyone not only "cheap&nasty ".Personally I felt I did not have to demo this kite, but of course most people would prefer to.
At the time have only 7m but in near future I should get light wind kite whats 10.5m- I do worry now thats too big after riding 7m since there is big jump in low wind end between 7m and 9m, but next to nothing between 9m and 10.5m.
Hosh you said 25-30 range will be good for me and thats exactly what my feeling was.
Im actually looking forward to come and visit your Great State of which I was not very aware 10 years ago when moving to Australia and ofcourse Pinnas will be on top of my list but Im sure I will have to bring 5m with me what was not quite a plan for my GT quiver.I might even bring my Ozone Samurai I did fly a lot its only 2m but its quicker than 7mGT who knows in WA might be just fine for me.
Cheers.

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Np had a few to many last night.

Hey Hosh,

Have a big night on the Saki???? Bring back your original post, I missed it.

I hope things are going well for you over there. No wind here this week so far

Cheers bud,

Anyway we can get a Core GT to demo in SA?

15-28knot range (flat water). Average rider 80kg riding 130cm twin tips.
Guessing 9m would be the go?
cheers

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Wisha said...

Anyway we can get a Core GT to demo in SA?

15-28knot range (flat water). Average rider 80kg riding 130cm twin tips.
Guessing 9m would be the go?
cheers

Contact A1 Kiteboarding in SA, they have Core.

Cheers,

Got to test these babies over the weekend and I have to say they are a nice kite, and for the money they have my vote.Build quality is top notch and the Bar what can you say thats German Engineering for you.I hope these prices stay the same as this kite is high on my shopping list for next year.
Nice Work and Take note all those other kite compaies jacking up their prices to ridiculous amounts you have priced yourelf out of the market.

Core GT cheap and nasty I think not.

Thelonerider

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cezary said...

... also 57 wide bar probably helps to make GTquicker and make more of apparent wind.

Cezary, 7m kite on a 57 cm bar? that's 22 inches! What size bar does it ship with?

I would have thought it would be a 45cm bar MAX - preferably shorter.

This sounds very odd.

The bar that comes with any CORE kite has the wide set up but it takes you only 20 seconds or so to convert it to 45 cm if you wish to have such narrow bar, I have done so thinking that for 7m kite 45 is OK, but had to change back to 57 soon after since the turnning speed of the kite was far too slow to what I expected from the kite, I guess Im used too much to the speed of Ozone Samurai, thats 2m bytheway!.
Cheers

cool, so you can get 1 bar for 2 kites.

How does it work? Like the Naish one?

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cezary said...

... also 57 wide bar probably helps to make GTquicker and make more of apparent wind.

Cezary, 7m kite on a 57 cm bar? that's 22 inches! What size bar does it ship with?

I would have thought it would be a 45cm bar MAX - preferably shorter.

This sounds very odd.

Hi Guys,

The bar works similar to the North Bar where you change the side the leader line exits the winding horn which adjusts the bar from 57cm to 45cm. It takes a minute max to do both sides.

The one bar does the entire range of kites from 5m to 15m. ALL GT's that I have tried turn fast on the 53cm setting and mellow significantly on the 43cm setting.

You can buy Core GT's as canopy and bag only. This saves you $500 when buying a second kite. All the parts on the bar can be easily replaced and adjusted with normal woven spectra/amsteel either 3mm or 5mm. makes life easy when traveling.

Yes, I sell Core!

Good winds,