I am 98kg, 175cm tall beginner.

I need a good advice on right a size kite/brand and a board?
I am currently doing my lesson with carbinha omega 12m (no board yet!)
But is there any other brand better for me? Maybe Naish Code?
Anyhow I am thinking of buying 12m Carbinha and 158 cm board! Any suggestions?

158 board is HUGE get more lessons and ask you instructor
this also applys for your kite. not saying it is a bad brand, just get more advice and state more on the forum what year kite and board....

Like i said, ask you instructor, if he or she is well trained they will have lots of gear for you to try to get what you prefer and is suitable before spending your hard earned money.
Also do your research this forum offers and endless supply of info.
Look at the old topics, get a feel/indication for what is on offer these days.

But bewarned this sport is highly addictive...............

Thanks youngbull

Omega HD 07 seems to be the only kite I know for Beginners!
I will ask my instructor for board size!!! I remember him saying between 140-150cm, prodigy board! what difference would board size difference make?

The prodigy is a great board to learn on..

Its what i learnt on.. iv only used mine for about 3 sessions....

Im selling it if your interested its an 07 prodigy 158.. Let me know if your interested.. i can send some pics and talk about the price..

Im a heavy guy as well flying a 12 m kite.. im aobut 95 kg.. 182cm tall

Buy a big board then go smaller its easier on you and you will be kiting quicker

hey creant

im 95kg and 195cm tall and ride a north rebel 14m.

The board im on is a north sky pro 07 136 x 41. I find this size great to get out in high and low winds, dont really like going much smaller unless the wind is cranking but i also hate going a bigger board.

I used to ride a 158 naish haze and it was a truck to ride, you will outgrow a bigger board pretty quickly (unless of course you are after something for light winds)

Cheers

I'm 100kg and 195cm (or so) I found that a 14cm ish board worked well for me when learning.

CC it must be great to be able to just put your board in your pocket when you've finished a kiting session

Liquid Force WLF140 or 146 i smy recommendation. Up & lightwind machine. Try one out from your local distributor. You wont be disappointed. We use that to teach all beginners and lots of advance riders use it as a light wind board too. Only weighs 4.x pounds.

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Creant said...

I am 98kg, 175cm tall beginner.

I need a good advice on right a size kite/brand and a board?
I am currently doing my lesson with carbinha omega 12m (no board yet!)
But is there any other brand better for me? Maybe Naish Code?
Anyhow I am thinking of buying 12m Carbinha and 158 cm board! Any suggestions?

I'd actually suggest NOT going for a specific light wind board as the extra width will make it difficult to learn toeside. At 95kg a standard 138-145cm should do you fine.

We have had no trouble from any of our students with the WLF as it is a freestyle design board. With its scalloped tail shape, rounded rails and continuous rocker riding toeside has never been an issue with any of our riders/students. It is also a board that people has been keeping as their light wind board, not a board you buy to learn on and sell after.

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I'd actually suggest NOT going for a specific light wind board as the extra width will make it difficult to learn toeside. At 95kg a standard 138-145cm should do you fine.

Opps 142cm board, that'll teach me for trying to surf the forum at work.

I was 102kilos when I learnt. I have had a number of boards and kites since starting 1 year ago. I had plenty of good advice but still made some mistakes. I am now down to 95kg I fly an Ozone 13m edge and have 2 boards a 145 and a 135 nobile 555. I have a 10m rhino 07 for those high wind days. I started with a 14 meter rebel 07 model this kite was really good to learn on I also had an underground 142. Later I bought an Airrush and a bigger underground board (148)for light winds. It is very difficult to make the right choices when you are starting out in this sport. My advice to you is to decide what style of kite surfing you want take on before buying your gear. If you want to ride surf mostly your choices will be different to flat water. Any kite post 06 will be okay to learn on. Bows or hybrids are easier to learn on. Second hand kites are a good thing when starting out. They are about half the price new kites. A 14m rebel or 13 waroo for example would be ideal for someone your size. I found being a little over powered actually helps the learning process. Because your kite skills are not so well developed you have to really work a 12m hard just to get up. These kinds of kites will more than meet your needs while learning, and if you watch the experience kiters using these kites you will see that you will definitly not out grow these kites in your first year or even second year. They are a versitile kite which will let you experiment with surf and flat water. They have good depower, good safety systems and they are well made so they won't fall apart on you even though they might be second hand. A board around the 142x 40 size with these kites would be ideal. Once you have mastered some of the basics and spent all winter 08 reading up on the new seasons kites and spend several weekends trialing new gear you will be in a much better position to decide what you are going to spend your money on for a new kite. I like cruise around jump as high and hang for as long as I can and play in the waves, i want light bar pressure so I can stay out for ages, the Ozone edge is the perfect kite for me, hence my switch from North to Ozone. I ride in choppy conditions most of the time so I want a board that will smooth out the chop and minimal splash in the face and is light weight. Noble 555 is the ideal choice for me. The trouble when starting out is to weed your way through all the Hype and BS and everyone who has a different opinion. What i am trying to say is that it takes at least a year of kiting to figure out what you really want. The second hand route is a good way to ease the pain on your pocket. I hope this helps a little. Good luck, you won't regret getting into this sport.

Good advice rusty7

Thanks Rusty7,

I am thinking of buying kite other than cabrinha, but my instructor got nothing but that. I don't how would I go about trying other kites!!!
I am skeptical about buying second hand as I do not know much about a kite in detail or assessing it's condition! there are few kites on ebay
Fine I will play it by ear for a year and then I will decide!

Creant
I saw a brand new 07 13m waroo on the buy and sell for $900. There is a 07 14m rebel for $1000 also. I would look at the buy and sell on seabreeze rather than ebay( i think it would be safer). Either kite would be a great buy for you. Like I said earlier both of these brands build really good kites if it was last years it will be okay. Second hand kites don't hurt as much when you crash em. If you want to try kites then just rock up to any kite shop and ask what demo's they have. The problem for you is, as you are still learning, so its gonna be difficult for you to tell one kite from another.( and there are alot of differences between different brands) You do need to get your own gear though, so you can go out when ever you like where ever you like and for as long as you like. I am warning you this sport is so addictive you will have to have your own gear. I have 3 boards,3 kites, 2 harnesses, rashes, wetsuit tops, boardies and towels, sunscreen, seaspecs and water bottles perminantly in my 4b. I made the mistake once of being at the beach with 18 to 20 knots side shore wind flat water and no one around and no gear. Again my advice to you is ... Don't get to technical with your requirements for your first kite. Any established brand 07 model bow or hybrid style 13m and up will be ideal for your first year. A board around the 140 mark.
This the advice I was given and it is right on the money. Once again good luck. .....oh and lookout for the pimps you will probibily get inundated with "great buys". i am suprised they haven't attacked your thread already.

Watch EBay if it is your 1st kite purchase. So many little things can slip through the description that can end up costing you a whole lot more than you planned on. I constantly see people who believed they scored until they have to fix this & add that, just to find they could have purchased a really good quality 2nd hand set up from the local shop with no immediate ongoing costs. Most retailers will ensure that the gear leaving the shop is in good working order with the correct working safety systems and then if you have any questions they will be just down the road to answer them.
As for equipment which will be suited to you I would suggest you have a look at the 2008 Liquid Force Proof. Great price point, from $649 incl GST. Comes in 151cm or 161cm. The board has a large surface area, easy up & plane. I have seen many students excel in learning on this board. They also have great resale value.
Also have a look at the 2008 Liquid Force Harness range they have waist or seat and I have found that they are the most comfy fit for your body weight. But with any harness if it does not fit in the shop it will be even worse on the water. So don't get sucked into a poor fitting harness. Keep going till you get a comfy one, you will be happier in the long run.
Okay for a kite of course I'm going to recommend 2008 Havoc. Why? Because they are really stable, have great wind range, water relaunch so well, great price, and are made from the highest quality materials kites can be made in. IMO they are the best value for money kite on the market. The 12m retails for $1699 and the 14m retails for $1749 complete incl GST.
So all up you can start with a new 2008 Liquid Force kit from $2597 incl GST.
If you have any questions or would like to know who your local Liquid Force dealer is please feel free to send me an email.

You can get my Cabrinha SB2 14 2nd hand for $AU 900 (purchased in April this year) complete with bar. Great Kite and good lowend.

Have replaced it against a Foil and now I do not need it anymore.

Cheers

Granini

hey dude i got a crossbow 3 for sale if you want to keep to cabhrina its a 12 metre perfect for your size and weight. im offering it with free lessons but if you dont need any then ill sell it for 1500

You won't find a better beginner kite then the slingshot T2, fastest water relaunch and so simple plus no kite produces as much power in the same size, give the 11m a try.. board wise chop or flat water, 146 misfit flat water or 147 sx for choppy..
Have fun learing is some of the best times