This is thlease inf on the new BEST Waroo HPA Kite (High Projected Area)
Just thought I would deliver this information to those of you that are interested in a low cost, great performing Bow kite.
The Best Waroo.
New for 2006 BestKiteboarding introduces the new High Projected Area Kite, The Best Waroo.
After another season refining and perfecting the Best C-shape kites on the market, the BestKiteboarding design team, headed by kite designer Peter Stiewe, turned towards the task of producing an all new flat or ‘high projected area’ design, bringing all the performance benefits of increased safety and improved wind range to the market at a price point that could only come from one company, Best.
From the outset it was decided that the kite must perform in the widest possible range of wind conditions, with the highest level of safety and that the kite’s handling could be fine tuned to give the reliable feel of a c-shape kite. Any new kite should make you a better rider, you shouldn’t need to be a better rider to get more enjoyment out of a new kite, and that’s exactly what has been achieved with the all new Best Waroo.
Best’s use of a carefully positioned ‘virtual front pivot point’ allows the Waroo to be tuned to turn either by tip pivoting or carving through the air, making it ideal for beginners or the most experienced of riders. Bar pressure can be tweaked from super light to solid, and everything in between, by simply switching the rear flying line attachment points. The huge inbuilt freedom of choice in riding feel gives the Waroo more flexibility than any kite on the market, and allows the feel of the bar (and therefore kite) to be customized to the widest range of kiters’ preferences.
Incredible user controllable depower allows the Best Waroo to feel right at home across the widest range of wind conditions. A reduced strut count improves the under canopy airflow, making the Waroo carve turns more effortlessly and with less drag than any comparable flat kite. Flying the Waroo simply makes it easier and more fun for you, regardless of your level, to improve your riding., If you’re making your first tacks upwind or throwing that first unhooked kite loop, the Waroo simply makes everything easier, more enjoyable and safer, regardless of whether you are an advanced rider or a true rookie.
As well as huge depower range; the swept wing tip design of the Waroo endows it with near automatic relaunch capability. So no matter what situation your enthusiasm gets you into, you can be sure the Waroo is designed to get you out of it. Even if you’ve never kited before, the Best Waroo will take you from ‘zero to hero’ faster than any other kite on the market.
Higher projected wing area means greater effective surface and more power on tap when you want it, and as you’d expect the Waroo is absolutely no slouch in the jumping and hangtime stakes. Input from the Best Pro team and innovative reduced strut count; mean the Waroo jumps with less drag, hits higher and glides better than anything you’ve ridden before.
In producing a kite for every rider and all conditions, simplicity was high on the list of priorities of the Best R&D team. That’s why close inspection of the Waroo bar will leave you feeling short-changed; short-changed of unnecessary pulleys, complicated depower set ups and potential failure points. Any standard Best bar can be upgraded to a Waroo bar just by the addition of a new chicken loop, depower rope and extended trim strap, nothing could be any easier, or more cost effective.
The Waroo is a classic Ripstop and Dacron construction kite, benefiting from Best’s typical attention to detail.
Canopy and strut shaping have been integrated to the highest level, giving a clean kite profile with seriously reduced drag. Reduced strut diameter on the underside of the canopy keeps the kite pulling through the lulls, but provides instant power up for your favourite seriously committed tricks. This combination of careful design, clean aerodynamic profile and low cost, provide the Best bang for buck available in the new flat kite sector.
Swept back wing tips extending behind the center chord of the canopy means relaunching the Waroo is child’s play, ideally suited for beginners and schools, the Waroo brings a new level of rider simplicity to the kitesurfing market.
The new depower set up with user adjustable depower travel limiter allows riders to choose between a fully free floating bar for maximum safety, or a punch through set up ideal for hands free tricks and bar rotations. For wave riding we recommend using the free floating bar set up to maximise the amount of depower you can get, to keep you surfing that wave right to the shore break. As well as having the inbuilt safety and relaunch features the Waroo bar also comes with a front line “Oh ****†handle for maximum kite kill, so you can flag the kite out on a single line if you get tumbled through the waves.
Tech spec:
All Dacron and rip-stop construction: Best flat kite price/performance on the market.
Swept wing tips: easy self launch and maximum safety from huge depower range.
High projected area: maximum low end from minimum kite size.
Virtual front pivot point: the right balance between performance and handling.
Depower travel limiter: user set depower travel with punch through safety activation.
Maximum kite kill: front line “oh ****†grab handle for maximum safety.
Multiple front and rear line attachment points: variable turn feel from powered to slice, and variable bar pressure from solid to light
Bar upgrade kit: no kite specific expensive bar set up, just replace the centre line and depower to use with any Best bar.
Minimized 5 strut design: improved under canopy airflow on smaller sizes for maximum performance.
Another bow!!
What about price? Crossbow, Sonics, Shockwave, Rapture2 and then.......
They reckon this:
DISCLAIMER: These prices have not been finalized, but this is what we're thinking kite only:
7m $499
9m $599
12m $749
16m $899
Also looks like theyve sacked the marketing knob who came up with the 'makes all other kites obsolete' crap that went along with the stinkfish, it will be a couple of years before they are trusted again.
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Originally posted by GregW
They reckon this:
DISCLAIMER: These prices have not been finalized, but this is what we're thinking kite only:
7m $499
9m $599
12m $749
16m $899
Hey iti... I can only speak for myself, but I recently bought a kite from Browneee and received excellent service. He took time to answer all of my questions (and there were a few...) thoroughly and promptly, gave me a great price and pushed the shipping along. No complaints, actually hats off, considering I live on the other side of the country...
So what do you think Brownee, is it going to be any good?? For those of us who have sat back and waited there are now some good options on the market. There are a few guys on the Sonics who love them, the SSTD sounds really good, and the Nova 9m which sounds like it rocks. I am going to buy 1 in the next 2 weeks to take over to WA for the 30 knot arvo specials so was wondering if you thought the Best was worth a punt, or have spoken to anyone who have riden both the SSTD and the Waroo to compare the two?? The only thing putting me off the Nova is the bridle system.
Cheers Bowski
Hey Guys,
On the site they say that sizes go up to a 20m, which I am interested in, but everyone listing sizes is only talking up to 16s. Are we able to get the 20s here in Aus?? If so what do they cost here in $$$$$AUD. Browneee????
Cheers,
D
Below is a quote from Alex on our forum...
If your local store is not stocking the 20m, ask them to place a special order, I'm sure they'll be happy to get one in for you. Failing that drop me a line and I'll order one for you, try your local store first.
Pricing well from my estimations it should retail for around $1950aud complete.
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"We just finished the final testing of the 14m & 20m Waroos and they are AWESOME! We are going to adjust our orders in China so that we can hopefully have them in stock within 4-6 weeks.
If you're not aware of why these kites are late compared to the rest of the Waroo line-up, it's because a couple months ago our customers urged us to make a 14m & 20m Waroo and we listened!
The 20m is an awesome light wind kite, especially for big guys. It's a no-brainer to go upwind and it's fast and responsive, it feels like a 2005 15-16m kite in the way it turns and responds to rider input. Compared to other brands' 16m "bow" kites, it is faster and way more responsive. The bigger Waroos are really going to set the bar for the competition, they are really, really good. I had no trouble throwing kite loops on it and like all Waroos, it rides fast and builds power as you generate speed. Great for unhooked riding in light wind and it has amazingly floaty jumps, it feels like you're flying you stay up there for so long.
In 10-12 knots, I was able to have a blast, fully powered on a Float 133. Kite loops, nice jumps and awesome unhooked stuff. (I'm 190lbs). In 18-22 knots, I was able to hold it down easy but in the gusts I was really overpowered, but I just let the bar out a little, and I was fine. I would have been more comfortable on the 14m in these winds for sure.
But the 20m is not just for big guys. Stacey rode it and was very comfortable on it and had a great time although she was more comfortable on the 14m Waroo in 10-12 knots as that's really the biggest kite she needs. So if you're smaller and like to be lit up in light wind, the 20m could be a good call for you.
The 14m is perfect and I think it will be our best selling size this year, so thank all of you who prompted us to make these sizes a few months ago, what a great call! And it's so great to have such awesome feedback and suggestions from our loyal customers.
The 14m Waroo turns and feels like a much smaller kite. For those of you who fly other 'bows" in the 12m size, you'll find the 14m Waroo to be faster and way, way more responsive. It has awesome jumping ability and will be the "butter" size for most riders. That said, for me @ 190lbs, my quiver will still be the 9m, 12m & 16m, as those three sizes suit me best for the wind I ride in.
For someone who is a bit bigger, the 12, 16 & 20m might be a good call and for someone who is smaller, the 7m, 9m & 14m might be a good combo. I always recommend three Waroos for anyone. It's safer and more fun that way, because even those these kites have amazing range and depowerablity, there are still gaps, but the gaps are more about comfort than anything.
All in all, the Waroos in all sizes simply rock! No one will be dissapointed in these kites, and in fact everyone who buys a quiver will have more fun kiting than they ever have before! Guaranteed"
here are the prices in aus 7m $799
9m $999
12m $1199
16m $1399
this is kite only
i flew one last week im currently riding torch2s which im selling to buy a waroo they are a awesome kite crazy lift and hang time and less bar preesure than my naish
All Waroo's can be purchased without the bar. Bars are good price as listed below
45cm bar complete $299
55cm bar complete $320
7mtr Waroo with 45cm Bar $1099
Waroo's in stock now.
Joe
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Originally posted by Bowski
So what do you think Brownee, is it going to be any good?? For those of us who have sat back and waited there are now some good options on the market. There are a few guys on the Sonics who love them, the SSTD sounds really good, and the Nova 9m which sounds like it rocks. I am going to buy 1 in the next 2 weeks to take over to WA for the 30 knot arvo specials so was wondering if you thought the Best was worth a punt, or have spoken to anyone who have riden both the SSTD and the Waroo to compare the two?? The only thing putting me off the Nova is the bridle system.
Cheers Bowski
heheheheheheh Rob, the bow man......the virus is spreading to even the most die hards...maybe slave will buy one
The session that sealed the deal for me was early sat morning at Pt Walter with Gruzi... We had a very nice morning session with the whole Pt to our selves and I had a blast throwing down powered kiteloops and generally enjoying myself.
ok im gonna ask you brown dog cos i coodnt find any info on the site,
the bar, is it just a normal bar or a 2 to 1?
does it have the same 80% depower like the other bow styles?
can you just depower and it sits out as you ride waves or do you turn it like a C kite?
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the bar, is it just a normal bar or a 2 to 1?
does it have the same 80% depower like the other bow styles?
can you just depower and it sits out as you ride waves or do you turn it like a C kite?
Yeah Caution, Joe's correct, it's the same as any standard bar only it looks stretched. If you want to check it out or have a sesion give me a call and I'll hook you up. As I said before I'm so impressed with them after the weekend cant wait to get my two new additions to the family...
The kite was designed to handle and feel just like the kites were all use to, classic "C" kites. Only it has all the benefits of the bow styles. Everyone I've let ride it said the same thing, only take a few minutes to get dialed in. You can fly it like a "C" or place and park where you want.
The kite sounds decent BUT what really puts me off is the bunch of BEST twats on the international forums jamming their hype down everyones throat. Last time best promised the best kite in the world they delivered the hellfish - quite possibly the biggest flop in kiting. Why can't they just let the performance of the product do the talking? If its good then it will sell. The constant overhype just gives me (and others) the ****s.
Not having a go at anyone here - seabreeze is far more moderate on the best hype/crap.
dont like it dont read it... I dont read kiteforum any more, only when I want to stir things up a little.
jeeze laurie would be stinking rich if he was given a dollar for everytime someone posted a reply like that...
Heres an excercise munter, time how long adverts on the TV run for these days vers how long the actual TV show runs for...
Have to agree with Munter. The pimps are omnipresent, but the Best pimps take it to a new nauseating level of crap. To Kiterpilot, for us office bound folk the forums provide a great opportunity to vicariously enjoy our kiteboarding. You mention that you don't have to read it, however the site is created for people to enjoy and certainly that enjoyment is diminished for me by every second post containing some Best plug (luckily Seabreeze is not that bad). If the kite is that good, then let happy customers do the sales legwork.
I'm with Munter & Simonmm. Give it a rest for a bit Brownee, I'm sure the kites are good, just SICK OF HEARING ABOT THEM!!!
Slim
sorry guys the heading was "BEST WAROO BOW KITE INFO" in the section for "gear reviews" so if you dont want to know about it dont read it, but you must want know because you keep reading it and replying with lame poor wingeing **** 
I agree that Best in the states tend to hype their brand on a large scale, however this time I believe they have a damn good reason too.
You guys who havent had a chance to ride the gear make it a must. There are new retailers all over Australia signing up as BEST retailers for the one reason, the gear is hot and finally the retailers of Australia have the chance to deal in the brand and promote to their customers.
Check the dealer section on the Best website frequently as this is updated every week. If your retailer is not a dealer for BEST soon , ask them why?
We are not over hyping here in Australia, simply hyping you not turn a blind eye on this wicked product because of a past stuff up. Look at the products on the market today compared to that of 5years ago, the industry learns from each others stuff ups all the time to help progress this unique sport.
vert - you missed the point. Its not that I don't want to know about the kite - I do, thats why I read the post. What I don't want, and what really gives me the ****s is a brand pimp going on relentlessly about how his kite is far better than anything on the market and that all other kites suck in comparison. Best pimps on kiteforum have a chronic problem with this.
I acknowledge in my first post that there is far less of it on seabreeze than kiteforum and so does another poster above - the point of raising it here is just to let the Australian distributors know that I find that style of marketing a massive turn-off.
From the measured response from arsa it seems like he's got that message (probably knew before I raised it) and isn't the type to hype. Great! - I'm happy with that. Now lets see if the kite is any good!!
Back on track.
I flew the 16 Waroo at Alva beach with Shannon and Clinton and a few local Townsville boys a couple of weeks ago.
Wind at the start of the day was around the 14knot mark with the tide going the same way as the wind. I was able to ride ok but struggled to stay up wind. I am 105kg and was riding a 130 board so I wasnt expecting to much. As the day went on the winds slowly increased to 20 - 27knots. This was it, I was maxed out and absolutely rippin. I had the kite fully depowered and was still managing to keep an edge, however this was it for me.
Young Grommet was on the 9mtr Waroo and boosting some big air and Shannon was on the 13Yarga Pro and going sick with some of the biggest jumps I have seen to date. Me I was just hanging on barely staying on the water.
Conclusion,
These kites do have a limit. However the range on them is bloody huge and the handling of the kite at the top end was surprisingly controled. My goal at the moment is to push this gear to see what it can really handle. At this stage I stand impressed.
I reckon it has about the same grunt as a 18 bfk bondo.
You back in Bris? I have one you can demo on.
This was a production 16. Yeh I think an 18 BFK would have the same power but the Waroo turns faster.
Thanks guys, I figured this would be the case as my 12 waroo has more low end than my 12 caution. Kurt, should be back for a break soon(ish), hopefully before the season dies!
Hi
I think i am the first kiter in Sydney to test / own the 9m woroo,
everybody's been asking me about it & to post it here.
Basically first session was the best 9m experience i had,in 6 yrs of
kiteing & can not believe this kite's awesome power / control for a 9m it has replaced my 11m, 9m, 7m C kites
As i had 5 session's on it all around 20kts + & gusty 15-30kt range
i am 95kgs 6ft 2in monster so the local kids say!
Usually in 20kts i ride a 14m C& powered, my riding style high intensity & totally into power moves .
THE little 9m woroo works in 20kts, powered "but not lit up!!
Just awesome for kiteloops as the the control is insane in the way it
turns the feedback to the bar is like a C kite.
The bottom end * gets me throw the lulls & upwind no problem in
around 15kts i can still plane but work for it by pumping /power sroke then park she just keeps going !!
Mid range power*20kts is great for wake style moves & kiteloops
But for me to go "Huge"!! i still needed 25kts "Bonus" is that friends tell me that i boost higher than my C kites.
Top end* well i have not reached it yet! 30kts is the normal top end wind range i use a 11m C kite up to .
Surf * " Smooth as " I been out with friends using 14m c /12m bow's
wind 15-30 & droping i was still powered most of the time but managed a respectable session as the swung on shore .
Their is nothing to report that's wrong with the kite other than the most important thing in my life at the moment is getting my hands on bigger size woroos, pure Joy!!!!!
